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Was V the first game Gilgamesh appeared in?
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Sep 5, 2017 22:19
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Sakurazuka posted:Was V the first game Gilgamesh appeared in? Yes.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:20
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Sakurazuka posted:Was V the first game Gilgamesh appeared in? Yearp. Though I know he's been retroactively added into remakes of previous game's new dungeons and such.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:20
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:When the fandom can come up with a more interesting and compelling perspective with the meager pieces offered to them, you really gotta wonder what that says about the narrative that was given and presented by the supposed professionals. Yeah that's my point exactly.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:38
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Countblanc posted:i dont either and I play FFXIV. people need to friggin respect gilgamesh. I respect him, his is my close friend and that's why I call him Greg and he calls me Skull. We're good friends with nicknames for each other.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:48
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"What if (X) was dead the entire time and it was all a hallucination" isn't really that compelling a narrative. It's a fun thought exercise especially in dreamlike stories but rarely actually means anything in the way fandom likes to use it which is "it was a dream all along with no payoff or resolution." There are stories that can do it well but they are movies structured and built around it, not hiding it behind a Secret Reveal Only True Fans Will Notice. Rinoa being Ultimicia is a fun gimmick-thought but would be insanely unstatisfying because nobody in-story gets a chance to respond or interact with it and is ultimately meaningless. This is particularly important because what if I'm forgotten is a fear Squall actually expresses and the reveal being "you're not forgotten but refusing to move on is as unhealthy as well" would be a compelling story beat. ~Secret Villains~ are rarely satisfying because they deny the characters the chance to actually finish characters arcs with those villains.
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Sep 5, 2017 22:49
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Help Im Alive posted:I know it's a XIV thing or whatever but i do not like greg as a name for cool interdimensional swordsman Gilgamesh He was given the nickname by Hildebrand, an aloof comic-relief character (think Mr. Satan of DBZ). He goes "Your name is Gilgamesh? I'm gonna call you Greg" and Gilgamesh kind of plays along with it. Gilgamesh is shown to be kind of dumb in XIV too. Edit: the last Twilight movie did a narrative of the final fight being a "this was all a dream" at the very end, and all of the consequences were reversed. Of all the things wrong with the Twilight series, that one is probably the worst. seiferguy fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Sep 5, 2017 |
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Sep 5, 2017 22:54
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seiferguy posted:He was given the nickname by Hildebrand, an aloof comic-relief character (think Mr. Satan of DBZ). He goes "Your name is Gilgamesh? I'm gonna call you Greg" and Gilgamesh kind of plays along with it. Gilgamesh is shown to be kind of dumb in XIV too. Hildy doesn't even acknowledge it at all; Gilgamesh says "I am Gilgamesh" and he's like "Okay Greg, nice to meet you."
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Sep 5, 2017 23:01
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Help Im Alive posted:I know it's a XIV thing or whatever but i do not like greg as a name for cool interdimensional swordsman Gilgamesh In FFXIV Gilgamesh makes a wish so pure and heartfelt he accidentally brings back his best friend (who he has been looking for for years and tried to replace with a chicken painted green), Enkidu, as a demigod of near limitless power. CeallaSo posted:Hildy doesn't even acknowledge it at all; Gilgamesh says "I am Gilgamesh" and he's like "Okay Greg, nice to meet you." seiferguy posted:He was given the nickname by Hildebrand, an aloof comic-relief character (think Mr. Satan of DBZ). He goes "Your name is Gilgamesh? I'm gonna call you Greg" and Gilgamesh kind of plays along with it. Gilgamesh is shown to be kind of dumb in XIV too. I mean the way these guys are describing it makes it look like Hildy is an insufferable rear end in a top hat but he is legit the character find of FFXIV and the only reason I'd be willing to go back to it after Heavensward would be to play his new quests
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Sep 5, 2017 23:16
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Hildy is an insufferable rear end in a top hat and that is why he's the character find.
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Sep 5, 2017 23:32
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Hildy is hero that only does good wherever he goes and at worst annoys people that really need to lighten up/learn a thing or two like Cyr and the Conniving Inspector.
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Sep 5, 2017 23:41
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Hildebrand was a little too over-the-top and felt like a flanderized Inspector Clouseau. Still, the Gilgamesh fight at the end made it worth it.
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Sep 5, 2017 23:45
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Hildibrand is in fact a heroic figure and I will not tolerate the besmirching of his good name.
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Sep 5, 2017 23:45
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Countblanc posted:i dont either and I play FFXIV. people need to friggin respect gilgamesh. i kicked his rear end twice in that game i'm calling him loving greg
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Sep 5, 2017 23:55
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As someone who recently rewatched the Pink Panther movies, Hildebrand is not like Inspector Clouseau, because, the thing is, Clouseau isn't even that stupid. He's just an rear end in a top hat. Going over the movies again, almost everything Clouseau does wrong is not because he's particularly stupid, but because he's moderately stupid and refuses to recognize this, so that he continues barrelling forward even as it becomes obvious to everybody around him that he has no idea what he's doing. In Clouseau's mind, he is a genius and a Renaissance man, and there is simply no skill of which Clouseau is not the master, and therefore there's no real reason not to disguise himself as a telephone repairman. He continues to believe he is doing amazingly even as he tries to look inconspicuous while standing in the mess where the telephone used to be. Hildy is not an rear end in a top hat; he's just kind of oblivious.
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Sep 6, 2017 00:08
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Speaking of Ultimecia, here's her Dissidia AC reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eUOAiBhAc
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Sep 6, 2017 01:58
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I would greatly appreciate it if people would stop posting about the new Dissidia stuff. It's depressing to me now. 
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Sep 6, 2017 02:06
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Did they compose that version of The Extreme with Mario Paint
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Sep 6, 2017 02:13
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"In reality, when people die they are gone forever, and you have to learn to accept that and move on" but I mean if they also turn into godlike beings who continue to pursue their own agendas on a planetary scale that's cool too i guess Interesting to see the guy casually taking hare brained fan theories and suggesting they might get canonized later though.
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Sep 6, 2017 02:23
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Hildy is hero that only does good wherever he goes and at worst annoys people that really need to lighten up/learn a thing or two like Cyr and the Conniving Inspector. Hildy is also responsible for singlehandedly stopping a zombie invasion because he was so charismatic, muscular, and able to pose and flex with such grandeur that the zombies couldn't help but think of him as their king I don't know what he does post pre Heavensward but I'm sure it's as amazing as soaring through the skies wielding a magical sword of legends
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Sep 6, 2017 02:31
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Gologle posted:I would greatly appreciate it if people would stop posting about the new Dissidia stuff. It's depressing to me now. No. Have some music. One track from each game, because they are all the worst remixes in the series. Except for that FF12 remix. It's good. FF1 Main Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdl1_Lx9SG4 FF2 Main Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgbCkheNKZ0 FF3 Crystal Tower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu1620SL6KY FF4 Within the Giant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn2emGvCzvg FF5 Decisive Battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gXYX81TA8A FF6 Protect the Espers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUHyvdN0jX4 FF7 Opening ~ Bombing Mission: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiNEb8eo2XM FF8 The Man with the Machine Gun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYMYgu5wAb4 FF9 Sword of Fury: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDAwNMZqcTg FF10 The Final Battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY4eic4RShA FF11 Fighters of the Crystal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja6hPklHGkY FF12 Boss Battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X54I3mrG_yg FF13 Eidolons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrI4-_9CCQ4 FF14 Ultima: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCnI3LmizF0 FFT Battle on the Bridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2BY4ZtwCY FFT-0 Beginning of the End (Acoustic Ver): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_n9A0EYZMo Dissidia: Massive Explosion (Acoustic Ver): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW9KnB-Cs5Y Varance fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Sep 6, 2017 |
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Sep 6, 2017 02:47
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Calaveron posted:Hildy is also responsible for singlehandedly stopping a zombie invasion because he was so charismatic, muscular, and able to pose and flex with such grandeur that the zombies couldn't help but think of him as their king They didn't write a Hildy story until like 3.2+ because apparently they were surprised people expected more Hildy so the plot is kind small in scope and has no trials as part of it. It does have Mammet Vivi who hildy adopts as his son. It's cute but not as good as 2.X hildy. They learned and confirmed Hildy is coming in 4.1 and they have longer stuff planned for him.
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Sep 6, 2017 04:04
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just lol at dissidias soundtrack. most of the tracks sound like those metal covers weird long haired guitar nerds post on youtube.
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Sep 6, 2017 09:04
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That's one of the best things about Dissidia though.
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Sep 6, 2017 09:06
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Gologle posted:I would greatly appreciate it if people would stop posting about the new Dissidia stuff. It's depressing to me now. Does it make you Dissadia?
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Sep 6, 2017 10:11
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I unironically love that Dissidia remix of the Extreme. Makes me wanna replay Space Channel 5.
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Sep 6, 2017 10:17
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Attitude Indicator posted:just lol at dissidias soundtrack. most of the tracks sound like those metal covers weird long haired guitar nerds post on youtube. Yeah? I'm not sure why you think this is bad
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Sep 6, 2017 15:15
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I hate the Squall is Dead theory (and most FF fan theories if I'm honest) so I'm glad to see him laugh at all of them. Sadly, the one he doesn't have a giggle at is the worst of them all. That bridge between FFX-2 and FFVII is not healthy. Destroy it. Hildy is fun and cool, please be nice to him. Varance posted:Speaking of Ultimecia, here's her Dissidia AC reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eUOAiBhAc So maybe it will have a 1v1 mode?
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Sep 6, 2017 15:18
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Norns posted:Yeah? I'm not sure why you think this is bad I'll bite. Because they sound like low quality garbage. Made with bad mixing, lovely drums, cheesy synths and an ELECTRIC GUITARS makes everything rad as hell mindset. But, you know, music is subjective and all that, so you do you.
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Sep 6, 2017 15:34
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Help Im Alive posted:Did they compose that version of The Extreme with Mario Paint Holy moly, that's super accurate! I don't really love the remixes in the new Dissidia.
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Sep 6, 2017 16:07
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To be fair that Extreme cover is really nice for a fan MIDI.
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Sep 6, 2017 16:41
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i just beat the pc version of ff4tay my god the encounter rate in the last part of the final dungeon the game should have been just the final chapter, the others add almost nothing to the story (it's also the longest by far) they must have taken out all these bosses because they were too lazy to 3d model them. gilgamesh  i dont understand why the creator flip flopped on his planet destroying at the last second
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Sep 7, 2017 02:23
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Relin posted:i dont understand why the creator flip flopped on his planet destroying at the last second bad writing for a bad game
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Sep 7, 2017 02:35
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ImpAtom posted:"What if (X) was dead the entire time and it was all a hallucination" isn't really that compelling a narrative. It's a fun thought exercise especially in dreamlike stories but rarely actually means anything in the way fandom likes to use it which is "it was a dream all along with no payoff or resolution." There are stories that can do it well but they are movies structured and built around it, not hiding it behind a Secret Reveal Only True Fans Will Notice. Rinoa being Ultimicia is a fun gimmick-thought but would be insanely unstatisfying because nobody in-story gets a chance to respond or interact with it and is ultimately meaningless. driver san francisco did it openly and just used it as an excuse for you having car superpowers, which is maybe pointless (you could just include them without an explanation) but it made for a fun game with fun driving
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Sep 7, 2017 02:41
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ahhh i just realized zeromus gets loose and there's no resolution to that plot point. maybe we're to assume putting the dark crystals back sealed him?
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Sep 7, 2017 03:06
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Relin posted:ahhh i just realized zeromus gets loose and there's no resolution to that plot point. maybe we're to assume putting the dark crystals back sealed him? Shh... shh... none of it matters anymore, the bad game is finished and you never have to think about it ever again.
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Sep 7, 2017 03:22
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Relin posted:ahhh i just realized zeromus gets loose and there's no resolution to that plot point. maybe we're to assume putting the dark crystals back sealed him? A
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Sep 7, 2017 03:37
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ImpAtom posted:"What if (X) was dead the entire time and it was all a hallucination" isn't really that compelling a narrative. It's a fun thought exercise especially in dreamlike stories but rarely actually means anything in the way fandom likes to use it which is "it was a dream all along with no payoff or resolution." There are stories that can do it well but they are movies structured and built around it, not hiding it behind a Secret Reveal Only True Fans Will Notice. Rinoa being Ultimicia is a fun gimmick-thought but would be insanely unstatisfying because nobody in-story gets a chance to respond or interact with it and is ultimately meaningless. Squall is dead is dumb. And even my dumb teenager self could figure out that the confusing ending had more to do with Squall's internalized fears than being dead. I think a lot of the dead theory is people trying to make something interesting out of something that was ultimately, well, not. Even the people involved in the story have said many times that they wanted to tell a love story from the get go. His connection to Rinoa is supposed to be his one saving grace. Granted "girl likes me in spite of being a maladjusted manchild, I am therefore deserving of life" isn't exactly a message that's held up very well. But their relationship was meant to be the crucial component here. Not some unexpected death/dream twist. Rinoa = Ultimecia is only interesting if, like you said, it had been something the cast had to face and contend with. Like some inevitable fate they were trying futilely to avert. It's the kind of shenanigans you can only really pull off whenever you throw time travel into the mix because man time travel stories only get worse the more you think about them and Time Compression is one of the most obnoxious and non-sensical plot points ever so you might as well go balls to the wall on it at least. Coughing Hobo posted:A You know, for a game that threw every minor character and a bunch of entirely new nobody's into the mix, their decision to kill(or not? they never explain) him off-screen, seemed pretty weird. Other than Tellah who was already canonically dead, he's the only guy who doesn't make it back into your party.
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Sep 7, 2017 03:47
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Crossposting from Coupons and Deals: Amazon's got Theatrhythm Curtani Call for an insane price so if you own a 3DS and haven't played it you should absolutely jump on it.
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i hope yojimbo is in the SB Hildibrand quests and he gets called Jim
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