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Fascinating. The image was a cellphone background and that looks like the outline of a protective case with applicable cutouts for camera, headphone, volume buttons, etc. Did someone use a template? Did they take a picture of the image from another source that caught the reflection of their camera?
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Bruceski posted:Did they take a picture of the image from another source that caught the reflection of their camera?
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I'll bet the aliens invaded, were repelled by Emil. Then at some point they captured an Emil head and analysed him and his magic. They created the machine lifeforms using that information which were corrupted because all Drakengard magic is evil stuff and the aliens weren't very competent. Hence the black scrawl Adam...or was it Eve? The thought that Caim dieing somehow destroyed 2 civilisations is pretty funny.
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Darth TNT posted:I'll bet the aliens invaded, were repelled by Emil. Then at some point they captured an Emil head and analysed him and his magic. They created the machine lifeforms using that information which were corrupted because all Drakengard magic is evil stuff and the aliens weren't very competent. Hence the black scrawl Adam...or was it Eve? He'd think so.
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Can we start speculating about Route C yet? I think we're going to see the plot from 6O's viewpoint next. You never leave the Bunker, but there's an involved minigame about cataloguing pictures of kittens.
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Parts Kit posted:Not likely, look at the bottom right and you'll see something that looks like a (very pixelated) watermark. Also it's way too rectilinear to be a "whoops." My guess would be someone took a picture of the back of a card from a card game or board game set.
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https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.10748087.6221/flat,1000x1000,075,f.jpg I have no idea why the original image has this in it, though. E: Actually, someone probably just wanted to stick a pair of eyes on the back of their phone. 
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My younger sister is playing through this game now and loves it. I realized that telling her about Nier may have been a mistake, since she suffers from very strong depression. I warned her about what kind of writing this game has, so I hope she doesn't take Taro Yoko's love for tragedy too hard. It worries me.
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The Skeleton King posted:My younger sister is playing through this game now and loves it. I realized that telling her about Nier may have been a mistake, since she suffers from very strong depression. I warned her about what kind of writing this game has, so I hope she doesn't take Taro Yoko's love for tragedy too hard. It worries me. 
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Episode LXXXII: Wandering Gold.jpg) Back to it! Those sidequests ain’t gonna do themselves. Today’s excursion will take us back to Pascal’s Village for a spell. There’s a couple reasons for returning here.  Music: Pascal (Vocal) .jpg) Chiefly, we want to speak with Pascal to trigger the next story beat in which he points us in the direction of his weird neighbors, the Forest Kingdom fellas. This opens up the Forest Zone as well as unlock Emil’s Shop once we return there. There’s a handful of sidequests in the Forest Zone that aren’t even tallied with the rest that were already on the map. But we’re going to try to avoid traveling there just yet since the region does have several new main plot scenes. We’re just saving some time while we’re in the neighborhood. .jpg) .jpg) The reason we’re actually here is to sort out these idiots whose quest failed in Route A because it’s literally the only one that has a cut-off point of unlocking the Route A unofficial point of no return, not actually triggering said point. Which is still dumb as hell and actively annoying to me. I never said this game was perfect. .jpg) Let’s right the wrongs of failing that quest today by doing it all at once as soon as possible so there’s no threat of these two spontaneously evaporating when 2B and 9S are a block away. If you’ll remember, these two were intent on deserting the Resistance and were hiding out until they could skip town. 9S and 2B are part of YoRHa and don’t actually care about anyone AWOL in the older runs of androids. gently caress the police. .jpg) However, one of the androids needed some materials to repair a bum leg. They saw just the thing, some Elaborate Gadgets, back at the Abandoned Factory but didn’t bother to collect them because every android on earth aside from 2B and 9S are evidently lazy as hell. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) We do need to repeat this first part of the quest. Thankfully, the material in question just respawns in the same spot and it’s just a matter of teleporting to the Abandoned Factory, running upstairs to grab a glowey thingy and FedExing it back to Pascal’s Village. We even get rewarded for it again, which is nice. The couple claims someone is going to ship smuggle them out of the region and vanish after that. .jpg) Friendly machines hanging out where the Wandering Couple were found mention the pair talking about going across the sea. Which means taking a trek to the Flooded City. Just as reference, the first part of this quest unlocks the second time Pascal’s Village is entered (so just before the dual-Engels boss battles) and there’s no indication given the Flooded City zone actually exists until past the point the mission fails. Music: Rays of Light (Quiet) .jpg) It’s possible to go to the Flooded City immediately after the giant hole is created in the middle of the City Ruins. Good luck finding the sewer pipe leading into it on your own when playing the game normally. Especially since there’s actually a second sewer pipe that leads to a secret area we’ve yet to explore. But forget that. This is Route B. We can simply Fast Travel here at any time. .jpg) The Wandering Couple is hanging out by a building just before getting to the crumbling highway over the ocean. We’re not actually going to talk to them just yet because there’s kind of a conflict of interest here that makes it a touch difficult to initiate the next leg of that quest. Hey, remember how we saw the first golden machine here back in Route A? Guess what’s hanging out here again... .jpg)  This machine type purposely seeks out androids in order to enact revenge. It should be dispatched immediately.  Got it.The final leg of the Golden Machine unmarked quest has spawned here. Technically, all three spots we’ve seen (also a fourth one in the Forest Zone we won’t encounter) will spawn the golden stubbies and their shiny back-up. These machines have a massive aggro radius, given their lust for revenge and all. So if 2B had managed to piss off one back in Route A when it was effectively immortal, good luck talking to the Wandering Couple! Especially since the next leg of that quest spawns the couple even closer to the Golden Machine hangout spot. Anyway, let’s see what the final Golden Machine, the Vengeful Child, has to say. Yep, we’re doing a robot child murder! Drakenier! .jpg)  If I cannot avenge them, then I have no right to live. Now... we fight!.jpg) .jpg) Unlike the other Golden Stubbies, where they were just regular stubby machines with a stylish spray job and a wall of HP, the Vengeful Child actually a unique attack – a flying rocket head butt that kinda hurts coming from a machine we’ve got 17 levels over. The flame aura doesn’t do anything. It’s just a stylist flare which... thank gently caress. Enemies in melee focused video games with constant elemental auras that will damage you just by being in proximity are the goddamn worst. Lookin' at you, electric worm robots! Music: City Ruins (Chiptune) .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) Other than avoiding a Cyber-Psycho Crusher from the Vengeful Child, the flow of this fight is much the same as its processors insofar as the minion is far easier to take out first before focusing on the Hacking Resistant/Bullet Sponge golden stubby. The Golden Goliath Biped is the exact same enemy. It’s a guaranteed spawn alongside the Golden Tank as parts of this .jpg) As before, the Golden Stubby doesn’t take its minion’s death well. Indeed, this one is SUPER pissed. This might be the most passionately angry as hell machines in the game outside like endboss Eve. Probably more so considering Eve was kinda pathetic by the end while this little poo poo literally a burning ball of anger. .jpg) .jpg) A few hacking attempts and some Pod Program back-up (we’re actually leveling enough to the point we could take this thing down with melee/Pod Programs in only 5-10 minutes) finally the last of the Golden Machines falls and it’s NOT happy about it... New Music: Mourning (Choir) .jpg)  Even if I achieved my revenge, I was planning to die regardless. My friends are dead. My family is dead. You killed them all and left me alone. I don’t have the strength to continue. It... hurts... I’m sorry, everyone... I couldn’t avenge you... Accursed androids... How much longer will you torment us!? You drat monsters! Glory to us... Glory to my family!.jpg) .jpg) Data shows that humans often engage in similar activities throughout mankind’s history. Such attempts at revenge were often seen as justified. And yet... I....jpg) Right... That’s the end of the Golden Machines subplot. No big reward or pay-off. The first two machines gave necessary unique Pod upgrade materials that only spawned there. Killing that last one was just being a dick. No moral. So anyway, how are you two doing? Sorry about that. Just had to finish systematically murdering an entire machine family. What’s crackin’ with you two?   Thank you again for your help.  I know this is awkward, but if you have the time, we could actually use your assistance again. Don’t you dare ask for more help! But... No, what is it? Do you need more parts to repair yourselves? I won’t accept— Put your pride aside, you foolish man! We need the help and you know it. I know, but... Why must you always be so stubborn!? Just let me handle this. Yes, we need your help, but not with finding parts. We’re actually trying to flee to a land across the sea. Oh. How’s that going to work? There’s a sympathetic figure in the Resistance who’s offering to help us. People refer to him as “The Emancipator.” However, he doesn’t work for free. .jpg) To progress the next part of this quest we need to cough up a hefty 50,000 G to the couple. Right now we have 175,538 in the YoRHa retirement fund. I guess we can spare some charity for these two. This has gotta be a hefty tax deductible contribution. Although a foreword warning: This cash is just gone if this quest fails again! No refunds on charitable donations. .jpg) I don’t know what to say. We really don’t deserve such generosity... But we’ll pay it back someday. I swear we will!.jpg) We’re not done with the Wandering Couple quite yet. But in order to progress the quest we need to leave the area. It might take a couple fast travel teleports to trigger the next beat. I don’t know why this quest has so many odd quirks to it. Music: Peaceful Sleep .jpg) Personally, I had to teleport to the Amusement Park Zone, the Resistance Camp and the Desert Zone before it finally decided to update here. However, I did do a bit of maintenance work back at the Resistance Camp. .jpg) .jpg) Particularly, we cleaned out the final Pod Program available for sale at the Maintenance Shop – the R070: M Shield. One would hazard a guess the M stands for Magic. Just ignore the part where magic doesn’t exist in this world in any real form – just cutting edge technology that is functionally indistinguishable from magic. Also energy orbs. .jpg) .jpg) The M Shield is the much more useful if still underwhelming companion piece to the P Shield. It grants 9S about five seconds of immunity from projectile attacks (read: energy orbs) with a hefty 10-12 second cooldown time. The fully charged up version grants 10-12 seconds of projectile immunity with a 25-20 second cooldown timer. The M Shield is definitely more useful than the P Shield if only because most projectile attacks are just haphazardly spammed everywhere for extended periods of time while physical attacks are mostly highly choreographed and fairly easily evaded. Still, it’s near bottom tier if just playing on Normal in terms of overall usefulness. .jpg) In any case, that’s all for Pod Programs we can obtain through purchasing. The rest are sidequest rewards or found in hacking chests out in the field. But that’s for another day. For now, we need to return to the Flooded City and check up on the Wandering Couple. Music: Rays of Light (Quiet) .jpg) This time the couple has moved err... a little bit further down the street and seem to be having a bad time. Also this guy is totally within the aggro radius of the Golden Machine if that quest were still active. So good luck chatting with him in Route A! Let’s see what happened... .jpg) Are you all right? What happened? The Emancipator... attacked... He was swindling us from the start. What happened to the woman who was with you? She fled... She was trying to act as a decoy in order to keep me safe... P-Please... You must help me find her! <Help the man.> Thank you. Here’s her bio-code—it should help you find her. .jpg) Exact position unknown. Data regarding her last known location does exist, however. The unit in quest was most recently seen in the amusement park ruins. Got it..jpg) That’s a hell of a dash to just act as a decoy. OK. The Amusement Park... got it! Heading out again. Thank goodness for Fast Travel... Music: Amusement Park (Quiet) .jpg) We find the woman just outside the park entrance close to the sewer manhole that led us here initially. So what’s your half of this story, lady...? You better not have lost that loan or I swear...  .jpg) Are you all right? Uuurgh... Well, you’ve certainly taken damage, but it’s nothing that can’t be repaired. Alert: Memory alloy required to repair this unit. Just wait here, okay? I’ll get what you need as soon as I can. .jpg) Memory Alloy is a rare drop from Enhanced Machines and Goliath Bipeds. We need a hunk of it to finish off this quest. Fortunately we already picked up some of it... somewhere. Let’s not look a gift horse in the mouth, eh? We’ll have to go grinding for material soon enough. .jpg) Oh err... hi, Pascal? You’re just going to rocket out of the sky, huh? I saw another machine do that trick earlier. It didn’t end well... What’s happening, my dude? We’ll check on those weird forest boys eventually. We’ve got some completionist business to attend to. It’s a human illness. You wouldn’t understand... .jpg)  I was concerned about the two androids who were staying in our village, so I decided to look for them. During my search, I noticed that one of their signals had suddenly grown quite weak. You have the material she needs, yes? If so, please give it to me so I can perform the repairs. You got it. ...... Something wrong? The android is female. You are male... Perhaps you might close your eyes until I’m done? Oh! Right! Sure, yeah. Lemme just... close my eyes then. .jpg) And done!.jpg) Thank you for helping me. Do you have any information about my friend? He’s fine. You don’t need to worry—In fact, he’s just off to the left of us. Hey, dude? Did you walk all the way here? That’s a hell of a hike! You should really invest in getting fast travel. Makes a world of difference. .jpg) Ah! I’m sorry. I should have been stronger for you. Please, don’t. You’re safe, and that’s all that matters. I’m sorry to have put this on you. I truly am. Oh, it’s perfectly fine. However, what do you intend to do now? Now? Well, I suppose we’ll try to find someplace safe. And then what? Continue being pursued by our former friends and hunted by machines? I can’t take any more! But... If this is going to be my life, I’d rather return to the Resistance. If we reformat ourselves and reset our memories, I’m sure Anemone will take us back. But if we do that, I’ll forget how I feel about you! And if we don’t, I’ll eventually grow to hate you. Do you understand? Even if I’m reformatted, I know I’ll fall in love with you. ...All right. Will you help us one more time? Will you erase our memories and bring us back to the Resistance Camp? <Agree to help.> Thank you. ...You can begin with me. All right....jpg) ...So I take it we’re not getting that money back, huh? Goddammit. This romance better be worth it. Music: Vague Hope .jpg) Me? No. I’m fine, thanks. What? Your formatting procedure was perfect. I’d expect nothing less from a cutting-edge YoRHa model. Wait, what are you— Don’t you understand? We’re too weak. That’s why I knew I had to convert one of us into a combat model. Then we’ll never have to run from anything again! But I can’t do that without a complete system reset, which is why I had you format him. Now it’s time to strengthen him up! Hmm... While I’m at it, I’d better delete all of his namby-pamby ways. I need someone more forceful in my life, you know? ...... Oh, don’t look at me like that! This is the sixth time I’ve had him formatted, and it’s never been a problem. I don’t know if this is enough payment for all you’ve done, but please accept it. .jpg) I mean... we lent you 50,000 G and this is maybe 20,000 G worth of poo poo... plus feeling kinda scummy about helping you out cuz BOY none of this feels good or cool. Was that Emancipator guy even real or did you just run off and gank yourself as an excuse for all of this? .jpg) Not that it really helps, but we do receive a new Pod Program for finally completing this quest – the A080: Wave. .jpg) This Pod Program causes 9S to leap up and slam Pod 153 into the ground, causing a shockwave. See bosses and Goliath Bipeds? Now we can do it too! Ours is just white instead of red. .jpg) .jpg) Full charged, Wave’s shockwave greatly increases in damage and the err... well, wave spreads across a huge area. This Pod Program is actually real good for farming enemies since hell if any machines know how to deal with avoiding a shockwave and the fully charged up version will juggle most common enemies to death. Going to the Adam and Eve birth site or the Copied City infinite enemy spawn points and going wild with this is a good way to gain some levels quickly too. .jpg) Anyway, after handing off her savings which for all I know is just scrubbing this poor sap’s inventory of everything to give to us, the Wandering Couple departs forever. As with many sidequests, there’s no follow-up. We’re not going to see this guy turned into a memory-wiped Robocop. Just kinda mull that one over on your own time... I didn't not feel one bit good about this one's ending. .jpg) Women can be pretty scary sometimes. I... see. I will bear that in mind....jpg) And that concludes the Wandering Couple sidequest. Women can be scary sometimes. I suppose we at least got a moral for that one... Right?    Video: Episode 82 Highlight Reel (You should watch this if just for the last golden machine’s “gently caress you!” monologue.)   Pascal Render – You think he’s distant cousins with IG-88? The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Sep 16, 2017 |
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Another quest complete! Good job, guys. We can all go home feeling satisfied with what we've accomplished today. For the Glory of Mankind and all that.
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In any other game, this might be distressing. Here, it's 'eh, business as usual'.Sindai posted:That's
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So now we can start getting to the fun side quests.
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Gaslighting, violation of personhood, enabling the aforementioned, and treating someone else as a tool for your own prosperity while manipulating them with (possibly true?) claims of love. And nobody really treats it as anything unusual. (Hell, almost EVERY romantic relationship so far has had undertones of darkness and sadomasochism. Hmm.) Drakenier! Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't all android and possibly machine technology use magic?
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The Dark Id posted:
Cue laugh track and overlay of director's name. Roll credits over stills from episode with instrumental version of theme song.
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That's one of the better hosed up moments I've seen from this game.
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Darth TNT posted:I'll bet the aliens invaded, were repelled by Emil. Then at some point they captured an Emil head and analysed him and his magic. They created the machine lifeforms using that information which were corrupted because all Drakengard magic is evil stuff and the aliens weren't very competent. Hence the black scrawl Adam...or was it Eve? Not 2, 3. It's implied that they shove the Maso back in time to the Drakengard universe. That's where it came from; a circular paradox. So he destroyed Earth, the Aliens, and his own world. Or at least was the vector.
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Andyzero posted:Not 2, 3. It's implied that they shove the Maso back in time to the Drakengard universe. That's where it came from; a circular paradox. ... I wonder if anyone told him. I kinda want to see the grin on his face. It'd probably wrap around the back of his head.
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I guess we should just count our blessings that nobody got horribly murdered this time, right?  Anyways with the way this quest is set up and plays out I kinda wonder if this was meant to be another route B exclusive quest and someone hosed up a trigger flag or something.
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I don't think the flagging was a mistake, I think you are genuinely meant to gently caress it up during route A and be out 50,000G with nothing to show for it. I have to raise a glass to YT's ability to subvert my expectations. So around the time you find the male android injured & on the verge of death, begging you to locate his companion, I'm thinking 'I am wise to your tricks, Yoko Taro, I will find his would-be love interest along with her real boyfriend and deliver news of the heartbreaking betrayal just in time for him to die knowing he's been deceived all this time.' Not only was I wrong, the man still found a way to twist the knife in a remarkably uncomfortable way. (Black Pearls are a pretty good quest reward though. Not for monetary value, but the ungodly amount of item grinding it saves you.)
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I'm still confused about the issue you had with autofailing the quest when you got to the flooded city in route A. That didn't happen to me - I guess it's inconsistent. As for the quest, uh, after she said "no, I don't want a mind wipe, just a slave" I really wanted to be able to say "too bad, you're getting the mind wipe you asked for". I mean, what's she going to do about it? And it's very deserved.
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Qrr posted:I'm still confused about the issue you had with autofailing the quest when you got to the flooded city in route A. That didn't happen to me - I guess it's inconsistent. I had a different problem on Route A, which was that the marker for the couple was consistently way the hell off in some inaccessible area. No idea why, unless it had something to do with being sent there for Plot or the fact that was when I encountered (and very slowly killed) my first set of gold guys.
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Or it didn't quite get fixed up correctly when they cut most of the flooded city.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I guess we should just count our blessings that nobody got horribly murdered this time, right? Maybe? Depends on exactly how broad your definition of murder is.
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Killing children doesn't count as murder in these games. Machine children doubly so.
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The Skeleton King posted:My younger sister is playing through this game now and loves it. I realized that telling her about Nier may have been a mistake, since she suffers from very strong depression. I warned her about what kind of writing this game has, so I hope she doesn't take Taro Yoko's love for tragedy too hard. It worries me. Hopefully she finds it cathartic. That's a hard thing to live with, for you and her. You have my sympathies.
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Oh, the machines picked up the idea of "glory" from the androids, huh? That's a dangerous idea to have.
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Glazius posted:Oh, the machines picked up the idea of "glory" from the androids, huh? That's a dangerous idea to have. Well, we assume that. They could have just been trading passion for it at the standard rates.
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What I like about this quest is that you expect something bad to happen in the end, so when the female android has you reformat her lover's brains to turn him into robocop, you just nod along and think, "Yeah, that's Yoko Taro for you." Then she tells you she's done this six times already. 
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The Skeleton King posted:My younger sister is playing through this game now and loves it. I realized that telling her about Nier may have been a mistake, since she suffers from very strong depression. I warned her about what kind of writing this game has, so I hope she doesn't take Taro Yoko's love for tragedy too hard. It worries me. I have semi-strong depression, and I find that depressing games are often some of my favorites. Cathartic is a fairly accurate word for it. Wouldn't worry about it too much, and telling her about the tone definitely helps a lot too.
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i've got a question, right now Nier Automata is on sale on Steam. but the reviews tell about tons of Bugs and badly ported controls, can anyone confirm or deny this? I Would like to play for myself, but if it is really that bad, i wait a awhile longer.
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Kasrkin posted:i've got a question, right now Nier Automata is on sale on Steam. but the reviews tell about tons of Bugs and badly ported controls, can anyone confirm or deny this? I Would like to play for myself, but if it is really that bad, i wait a awhile longer. It ran great for me, after installing a super easy fix called FAR. No problems at all with controls, it's one of the increasingly rare games that lets you put absolutely any action on any button on the controller.
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chiasaur11 posted:Well, we assume that. I mean, I think they lost their grip on the dreams of the past. And I suspect tigers are extinct, as well.
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Kasrkin posted:i've got a question, right now Nier Automata is on sale on Steam. but the reviews tell about tons of Bugs and badly ported controls, can anyone confirm or deny this? I Would like to play for myself, but if it is really that bad, i wait a awhile longer. go to the steam guides, get the FAR mod and if you use keyboard+mouse get one of the autohotkey mods. you can even have press-to-toggle for the pod fire instead of having to hold it.
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amigolupus posted:Then she tells you she's done this six times already. How many models of android are there? You'd think she would have come up with her (admittedly monstrous) plan to convert him into a combat unit a few revisions ago.
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Andyzero posted:Not 2, 3. It's implied that they shove the Maso back in time to the Drakengard universe. That's where it came from; a circular paradox. Oh right, I forgot about his own world.  So....is Pascal secretly a woman or does he not count himself as part of the binary choice man/woman. I assume it's the latter as a machine lifeform. But it seems both oddly dehumanising and humanising of him to tell 9S to close his eyes because the Android is female while he does some wrenching on her.
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