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JFairfax posted:he was a catholic mate, and he got to live the dream of starting a crusade in the middle east I guess it's time to repost this: The Guardian posted:Ev'rybody must get stones
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# ? May 9, 2024 01:52 |
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Trigger warning for Nick Cohen please
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# ? Sep 8, 2017 22:18 |
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oh man hillary is into that poo poo too? haha also lol: "In January 1999, for instance, the Government recruited a feng shui consultant, Renuka Wickmaratne, to discover a magical way to improve inner-city estates without raising taxes." wingardium leviotax
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# ? Sep 9, 2017 22:40 |
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Lol
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# ? Sep 10, 2017 04:53 |
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forkboy84 posted:Trigger warning for Nick Cohen please That's an extract from Pretty Straight Guys, which is one of my favourite books about New Labour and legit a really funny read. It's almost sad to see how broken Nick Cohen has become since.
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# ? Sep 10, 2017 10:17 |
Helsing posted:I guess it's time to repost this:
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# ? Sep 10, 2017 10:24 |
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# ? Sep 10, 2017 12:22 |
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please don't misattribute corbyn quotes to the most socially just blair
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# ? Sep 10, 2017 13:07 |
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Vitamin P posted:That's an extract from Pretty Straight Guys, which is one of my favourite books about New Labour and legit a really funny read. It's almost sad to see how broken Nick Cohen has become since. He might just like "shitposting" you know except in his newspaper.
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 11:24 |
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Is there going to be any blowback for the MP for Newcastle's insane editorial in the guardian?
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 12:58 |
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Byolante posted:Is there going to be any blowback for the MP for Newcastle's insane editorial in the guardian? Nobody reads the Guardian so it'll be okay probably
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 14:09 |
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Which Newcastle MP? We have three.
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 14:17 |
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 18:27 |
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Party Boat posted:Which Newcastle MP? We have three. Chi Onwurah. Uses the all lives matter argument to say racism is worse than rape because the operation sanctuary report and an EDL march.
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 22:02 |
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Byolante posted:Chi Onwurah. Uses the all lives matter argument to say racism is worse than rape because the operation sanctuary report and an EDL march. that's some good guardian rite there
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# ? Sep 11, 2017 22:58 |
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Byolante posted:Chi Onwurah. Uses the all lives matter argument to say racism is worse than rape because the operation sanctuary report and an EDL march. I don't think she said that at all? Her argument seems pretty similar to what was discussed in quote:But to say, as Sarah Champion did, that “Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls” is either saying that Pakistanis are more likely to rape and more likely to rape white girls, or that the rape of white girls is more of a problem than the rape of, for example, white boys or brown girls. We have a huge problem with sexual violence against children and vulnerable adults. After tabloid headlines about “Muslim rapists”, one of my constituents who was himself raped as a child expressed concern that his abuse did not raise the same kind of outrage and therefore the same level of awareness. quote:So which is worse, rape or racism? The answer, of course, is to reject any such choice. We must seek out and eradicate misogyny and sexism wherever it may be; condemn absolutely those who would judge or disrespect women and girls on the basis of their appearance or background; recognise that male violence against women has no race and no religion; invest in the measures necessary to prevent others becoming victims; and protect, champion and honour the survivors who, through their bravery, are helping to make our imperfect society safer. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/08/grooming-girls-newcastle-race-misogyny-religion-operation-sanctuary
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 07:59 |
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The final line is a huge all lives matter moment because there absolutely is a problem with these gangs all across the North of England. Rotherham, Rochedale, Newcastle, Derby, Bristol, Telford and Peterborough. The dumb whataboutism about Caribbean men in the 80s falls flat because there weren't organised gangs of them pimping out children. Their communities report them and the authorities don't act for fear of Guardian readers doing this dumb poo poo saying you only care because it's white girls and foreign men. The victims deserve better than their mp writing a lovely oped with the opening gambit of being unsure is racism or rape is worse. Gees guys i wonder if a thought is more or less bad than a life altering violent act committed upon a minor.
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 14:01 |
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Racism also leads to life altering violent acts but I agree with Chi that it doesn't need to be an either / or thing More importantly I find it very hard to believe that the police were genuinely stopped from doing their jobs because they were afraid that Polly Toynbee would skewer them in an op-ed, as opposed to the much more likely scenario that they were completely negligent and pointed the finger at Political Correctness Gawn Mad when called on it
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 14:45 |
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I thought everyone in England was a white tea sipper
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 21:19 |
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bump_fn posted:I thought everyone in England was a white tea sipper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hro4AdTYiTA
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 22:09 |
The Tories have literally couped all the laws, it's great, really excellent stuff just smashing and top. They get to stack all the committees on changing the laws away from European law exactly the way they like because not enough opposition MPs showed up to stop them. Livid.
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 23:28 |
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It sucks that those 7 Labour MPs rebelled against Corbyn's whip but the bill would've passed even if they voted against.
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 23:41 |
Irony Be My Shield posted:It sucks that those 7 Labour MPs rebelled against Corbyn's whip but the bill would've passed even if they voted against. Hopefully literally nobody wussed out and said "well my counterpart's kid is sick/BoJo is in the BVI so I'm not voting" like they normally do, but there are quite a lot of abstentions.
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 23:47 |
I assume the still below average police pay rise is going to make most of the newspaper front pages though not "they have absolutely jeffed democracy".
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 23:48 |
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Party Boat posted:Racism also leads to life altering violent acts but I agree with Chi that it doesn't need to be an either / or thing In racism the life altering act isn't racism, it's assault, or judicial malice or any other small but meaningful act. The key is 'leads to' not is. I would be totally on board with dodgy, lazy pigs who want to blame talk sports gripe of the day for why they wanted a cheese burger more than a safe community if it was just Rotherham or Bristol or Newcastle. There is a pattern there now but everyone is falling over themselves trying to say but what about how people acted in the 80s or Jimmy Saville or dinner other thing. Those are all important things that should be dealt with but the reason people are taking about Muslim immigrant rape gangs is because the exact same thing keeps happening and nobody seems to want to be proactive about it.
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# ? Sep 12, 2017 23:56 |
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jBrereton posted:I assume the still below average police pay rise is going to make most of the newspaper front pages though not "they have absolutely jeffed democracy". The guardian seem really bothered by it lol
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 01:20 |
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Thinking about staying in a real democracy like Florida, Jose?
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 01:52 |
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jBrereton posted:The Tories have literally couped all the laws, it's great, really excellent stuff just smashing and top. idgi what you guys are mad about, there's no uk constitution or even a charter of rights and freedoms like canada has, may can literally declare herself god-empress tomorrow if she has the votes. it's definitely not worse than the us where some guys who shat in buckets and owned slaves are the supreme authorities on government 200 years after they died but it does mean you were hosed in principle the moment the tories formed a government
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 04:38 |
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Byolante posted:In racism the life altering act isn't racism, it's assault, or judicial malice or any other small but meaningful act. The key is 'leads to' not is. Given how long they took to take any action against Ian Watkins I'm pretty sure the same thing that keeps happening is "plod is poo poo at investigating rape gangs" It is of course tougher for the police to get people to cooperate with investigations when they're from marginalised communities. Combating racism in and out of the police force is one of the proactive things you can do to make it easier to catch these gangs
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 07:27 |
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Party Boat posted:Given how long they took to take any action against Ian Watkins I'm pretty sure the same thing that keeps happening is "plod is poo poo at investigating rape gangs" The Casey and Jay reports both suggested that in Rotherham there was a hesitance to act because of a fear of being perceived racist due to the gangs being entirely made up of Asian Muslims. The police were obviously worthless and racist, the cop tasering their race relations liason in Bristol suggests that force at least are. If there is a trail of evidence of this happening all across the north of England it shouldn't be called racism to say that maybe there is a problem that should be investigated.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 12:07 |
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The Casey and Jay reports also said that there was a huge problem with victims not being taken seriously due to their socioeconomic backgrounds and that a lot of key evidence was missed as a result, which is part of a wider trend that the police simply do not treat rape victims seriously. I agree that the police should go where the evidence leads them (and I don't think anyone has argued that they shouldn't?), but pretending that the shocking oversights in Rotherham were purely due to the race of the perpetrators lets an awful lot of dangerously incompetent people off the hook. On the other hand I don't think any action was taken against them so I guess the only lesson we learned from that is beware the rapacious Pakistani.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 12:34 |
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Surely we can accept the police were racist, sexist, classist AND corrupt, lazy motherfuckers all at the same time.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 12:44 |
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Party Boat posted:The Casey and Jay reports also said that there was a huge problem with victims not being taken seriously due to their socioeconomic backgrounds and that a lot of key evidence was missed as a result, which is part of a wider trend that the police simply do not treat rape victims seriously. I am pointing out that if it was just a case of poor policing then there should have been wider demos of people involved in it and it should probably have been localised, not had gangs get found in 9 different cities in the last 10 years all with the same demo makeup.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 12:56 |
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Yeah it's unfathomable that multiple councils and police forces could be dismissive of issues raised by poor and minority communities.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 13:14 |
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It's anecdotal, but I have seen a lot more front page press attention to the rotherham ring/other "foreign" groups than anything to do with government/celebrity/religious sorts in the last few years.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 14:58 |
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DesperateDan posted:It's anecdotal, but I have seen a lot more front page press attention to the rotherham ring/other "foreign" groups than anything to do with government/celebrity/religious sorts in the last few years. Yewtree and the various hangers on pretty much took out everyone in one hit. The problem with Rotherham and newsanctuary is about once a year another gang in another city gets found and prosecuted so by nature of new stories coming to light it stays in the news cycle.
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# ? Sep 13, 2017 22:22 |
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https://twitter.com/LanaDelRaytheon/status/908280467589230592
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 11:53 |
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lol i still remember all the pictures of him and his son wearing their election ribbons as they walk around town right before Maymentum in June.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 19:33 |
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https://www.trusselltrust.org/news-and-blog/latest-stats/end-year-stats/
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 19:56 |
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Finally, a chart arranged in the superior manga order.
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