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Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
Seek to have the most difficulty with the Vickers MBT, to be honest.

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Nuramor
Dec 13, 2012

Most Amewsing Prinny Ever!
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/377765-dev-server-preliminary-update-notes-war-thunder-update-171/

quote:

The mechanics of defence of bases in locations: Poland, Advance to the Rhine, Tunisia and Finland has been added in test mode.

What are they talking about here?

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

a solution to spawn camping ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Force fields that stop incoming fire and prevent red tanks from getting too close to spawn.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

BBJoey posted:

a solution to spawn camping ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Sounds like it. One that might even work if they extend the zone into the hills or whatever behind the spawns like they seem to be showing on the maps.

Would help keep the fights more lively by channeling more people into the center, too.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

:420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420:

lol

Sard
May 11, 2012

Certified Poster of Culture.

quote:

Great Britain

  • Daimler AC Mk.II

Jesus Christ just add the properly equipped AT armored cars already. I'm super dumb and misread this as AA, oh man does this mean we're actually getting a British car to frontally kill tanks with?

quote:

  • F4U-4

Now this is more like it.

Sard fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Sep 3, 2017

NerdyMcNerdNerd
Aug 3, 2004

BBJoey posted:

a solution to spawn camping ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Cool I might try this again. That was probably one of the most ruinous things about ground forces.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

Sard posted:

Now this is more like it.

Regular -4 was 5.7 on dev, 4B was 6.3, should christen them wafflestompers ahead of time.

Ferrovanadium
Mar 22, 2013

APEX PREDATOR

-MOST AMMUNITION EXPENDED ON CIVILIANS 2015-PRESENT
-WORST KDR VS CIVILIANS 2015-PRESENT

quote:

Aircraft rocket damage has been updated, they are now more accurate, mass explosive type parameters have been added. As a result, damage against armoured vehicles has been reduced.
:nallears:

e: well i guess the improved accuracy will help a bit

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

YellerBill posted:

:nallears:

e: well i guess the improved accuracy will help a bit

That part is actually true to life. Unguided rockets were (and still are) pretty low yield weapons meant for fragmentation, making them pretty awful against armored vehicles.

Gravity bombs are the best option.

free hubcaps
Oct 12, 2009

hot drat they're finally adding the d4y (specifically the d4y2 with the inline engine, and d4y3 with the radial) this update. Should plug the massive hole between the awful b5n2 and great b7a2 in Japan's light bomber tree.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
If anyone's gameplay/stream footage of T114 BAT shows up then toss out a link please, and not just test drive stages where the lazyass youtuber doesn't touch the HESH. Not that I'm tempted to drop 8000 GE and learn to love it or anything.

ArchRanger
Mar 19, 2007
I'm tired of following my dreams, I'm just gonna ask where they're goin' and meet up with 'em there.

MrLonghair posted:

If anyone's gameplay/stream footage of T114 BAT shows up then toss out a link please, and not just test drive stages where the lazyass youtuber doesn't touch the HESH. Not that I'm tempted to drop 8000 GE and learn to love it or anything.

I really don't want the thing but if it goes half off with the anniversary sale I admit I'm gonna be tempted to round out my American lineup.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

ArchRanger posted:

I really don't want the thing but if it goes half off with the anniversary sale I admit I'm gonna be tempted to round out my American lineup.

That's a better idea. I like to use stealth and either oneshot or get oneshot in tanks.

ArchRanger
Mar 19, 2007
I'm tired of following my dreams, I'm just gonna ask where they're goin' and meet up with 'em there.

MrLonghair posted:

That's a better idea. I like to use stealth and either oneshot or get oneshot in tanks.

I've been saving Golden Eagles from various sales around the year for the Anniversary sale here at the end of October, right now my only planned purchase is the Ru-251 and then just whatever looks fun with what I've got left. Assuming it's a part of the sale saving half off on that should be worth the wait.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

:420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420:

free hubcaps posted:

the awful b5n2



if they ever end up adding that or the d3 to the new il2 it will be sincerely wonderful

e: forreal tho the more :japan: planes the better. if they actually flew irl anything like they do in game its pretty impressive. planes like the a7m are actually quite larger than the appear at first glance

Thief fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Sep 2, 2017

Madurai
Jun 26, 2012

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Force fields that stop incoming fire and prevent red tanks from getting too close to spawn.

Just taking them off the enemy maps would help--and retiring or reworking map with a single spawnpoint and firing every stupid motherfucker who designs one that way would help even more.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Madurai posted:

Just taking them off the enemy maps would help--and retiring or reworking map with a single spawnpoint and firing every stupid motherfucker who designs one that way would help even more.

Nah. People already know where the spawns are and they can pretty easily figure out where the bad guys appear. Keeping them from driving into the far backfield solves the problem of assholes sitting in an optimal spot waiting for the next guy to appear and makes sure the people spawning in have at least some idea which way the enemy is about to try to blast them from.

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Sep 3, 2017

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
I'm still trying to find out the reason why the past thread got to 1000+ pages but this one is still struggling to break 30.

For some actual content - when's the anniversary sale, again? October?

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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because :italy: came finally out and player controlled carriers are never going to happen apparently

most of the best sim players jumped ship to the new IL2 cause it loving owns

lol when they put french planes or something in the game

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


Azran posted:

I'm still trying to find out the reason why the past thread got to 1000+ pages but this one is still struggling to break 30.

For some actual content - when's the anniversary sale, again? October?

Last few days of October and first few days of November.

As for the thread activity, I feel like the game's activity is down in general, and has been for a good few months. I think a lot of wehraboos dropped it when the changes to solid shot and stuff like the IS-6 and T29 killed off the KTs dominance so that might've contributed to that - at least that's about the same time I started seeing longer queue times (and definitely fewer allies vs axis games). I also don't think gaijin has been doing a very good job promoting the game in general (no e-sports stuff since what, 2015?) and the older playerbase might've burned itself out a good extent. I'd be curious to see what the numbers look like for new account registrations by month for the past 2 years or so.

thats not candy
Mar 10, 2010

Hell Gem
Sim tanks is as active as ever, and EC seems to be more popular now too with lots of rooms going at once in nearly every tier (although only a couple will be packed). I have noticed a small dip in activity the last week or two within my squad, but only because people are waiting for the imminent tier 6 content patch.

NickBlasta
May 16, 2003

Clearly their proficiency at shooting is supernatural, not practical, in origin.

YF-23 posted:

Last few days of October and first few days of November.

As for the thread activity, I feel like the game's activity is down in general, and has been for a good few months. I think a lot of wehraboos dropped it when the changes to solid shot and stuff like the IS-6 and T29 killed off the KTs dominance so that might've contributed to that - at least that's about the same time I started seeing longer queue times (and definitely fewer allies vs axis games). I also don't think gaijin has been doing a very good job promoting the game in general (no e-sports stuff since what, 2015?) and the older playerbase might've burned itself out a good extent. I'd be curious to see what the numbers look like for new account registrations by month for the past 2 years or so.

Activity has to be down because they made the grinding events a lot easier.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

:420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420:

thats not candy posted:

Sim tanks is as active as ever, and EC seems to be more popular now too with lots of rooms going at once in nearly every tier (although only a couple will be packed). I have noticed a small dip in activity the last week or two within my squad, but only because people are waiting for the imminent tier 6 content patch.

they fixed the sim stuff for sure

sim tanks rules because most plane players have finally figured out air to ground

EC is cool for activity because the way you can see who's in what game but it's the same as il2 where you just cruise around and pounce on people more often than not. best way to get your p38 lightning fix tho :pilot:

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
I think ore and more are realizing what tanks are. 've taken to Tanks Assault PvE to spade them and it's a piece of profitable super fast frustration-less cake, plus it doesn't steal free repairs so you can keep your 10 repairs and bring a spaded tank into actual combat. It's becoming more fun and engaging than drive point A, click playertanks, get clicked from across the map behind two forests and a village, respawn, get CAS-spammed. Seems many want to see tanks+boats get maps of a PvE kind that Air has instead of Capture X Hold Y.

thats not candy
Mar 10, 2010

Hell Gem

Thief posted:

they fixed the sim stuff for sure

sim tanks rules because most plane players have finally figured out air to ground

EC is cool for activity because the way you can see who's in what game but it's the same as il2 where you just cruise around and pounce on people more often than not. best way to get your p38 lightning fix tho :pilot:

Yeah, ec is super easy and its mostly killing noobs and people without situational awareness/trackir, and farming RP from ai tanks and bot planes. Tier 3 and 4 has some decent dogfights in full rooms, though. I've mostly been playing jets lately and all I want now from war thunder is century series fighters.

This upcoming patch will have new more realistic penetration values for rockets, so only the better pilots who are used to accurate top down attacks will be dominating anything other than light tanks.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


The CAS spam is a way overblown issue anyway. A youtuber (MikeGoesBoom) made a video about how easy it is to spawn a plane in CARB about a month ago, with the effect that allied teams started getting a ton of people who don't know how to use CAS planes were rushing in with lovely vehicles and jumping to planes accomplishing nothing before being eliminated. Matches where I've seen 4 uptiered SPAA J out after capping a point have also been matches where I've seen some of the most ineffective CAS in the game.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
And when I do want to do some legitimate CAS while grinding out the US, the enemy has at least four Whirblefucktheskyandanythingthatsinitwind.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
I kind of clocked out when I realised ground grind was insane and a waste of time. I might drop back in if I get a year's premium for basically free in the sale again but there's just no point trying to progress in tier v without it and while I'm interested in cold war tanks if tier VI is the same I can't imagine I'll stay.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


It's a fun game to play just for the sake of playing it though. You don't have to constantly be unlocking a new thing for it to be enjoyable.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

YF-23 posted:

It's a fun game to play just for the sake of playing it though. You don't have to constantly be unlocking a new thing for it to be enjoyable.

Yeah but eventually you feel like you've basically played out a given tank and want something new to chew on and that goes from being a pretty natural progression at lower tiers to being "Lol gently caress you" at high tiers.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

spectralent posted:

Yeah but eventually you feel like you've basically played out a given tank and want something new to chew on and that goes from being a pretty natural progression at lower tiers to being "Lol gently caress you" at high tiers.

Then you have a pile of other tanks in other lines to play? I alternate between Germans and Soviets, keeps things fresh.

I also love CAS in realistic/sim tanks. Nothing more fun than turning planes into little bits of planes.

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Sep 9, 2017

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer

YF-23 posted:

It's a fun game to play just for the sake of playing it though. You don't have to constantly be unlocking a new thing for it to be enjoyable.

I think the reason the grind never bothered me is I'm mostly happy playing with my crappy rank 1 and 2 toys for every country. Sometimes I just get the urge to dive bomb something in a stuka, shoot some guys down in a hurricane, or shoot some crap tanks with my Stug III. I've never felt much desire to push towards the jets or cold war era tanks.

My current goal is to get some soviet tanks that don't suck.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

:420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420::420:
every single tier in this game is great and has its own little quirks that you can min/max.

the game is seemingly setup so that if you focus on a single tree you can eventually get a jet through normal play

but what ended up happening was a lot of us nerds just ended up unlocking everything. it got to the point where some goons had quite literally done everything in the game from shoot down jets in prop planes to bombing high tier tanks with poo poo like po2s and shooting down planes with long reload TDs

its gonna take more ships or a new gamemode to really breathe proper life back into this game. givem really good anti air

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013
What I am saying is that everyone should've just spent around 120-150 or so real life american dollars, bought nazigeld from me back in the day and literally got all the premiums.
My premium tree is full of planes still that I've never touched, and most of my normal planes above 3-tier are talismaned. Good times.


Related, I did check out some of my old transaction logs and I'm sure they'll be used against me in the future when I look for a federal job.

For me, the best of times in this game were gooning up in that E-sport thingy, which owned (and were we got owned), and the Sim Tank-PLane combined arms missions that had tanks and plane setups and no tiers, just "you get one plane and like, two mediums, or one heavy"-style matchup. I played that game mode religiously with my joystick and track IR and I have countless videos of it still saved up. It loving owned. Shoutout to Burno, Lowcard, Muhlump, Valtonen, Lumme, and ArtlessMeat, Ralith, JZilla, Sauer, and OhsH. Good times.


loving up player planes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoeg9GtwAeU


Deflection shots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h-wRq-Mn38&t=160s


Or super rainy weather sim tank fights with planes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqDKrOZ2LhY

Or bombing players with 410.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffOx852Fc4c

Or just playing with OhsH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycgV2928fpk

Or trashtalking people who chase you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l3o7VjGBVE





Sim Combined ARms is where the game ultimately peaked for me, and went over 1200 hours in Steam. The game sits at 1300 or so now, so it never really took off the same. I still love the game.





The Story of Tuskgoonie Airmen

There were also cool and good syncdrops against Nazis every time a goon saw the Ruhr mission pop up, it was like a rallying cry in mumble. "Get your mustangs, it's time to go wreck some nazis".
Background info for those unfamiliar: There was a mission that came every now and then that had p47s and P51s against Me262s and Me163s, and the germans had less planes, but obviously "better planes" in pubbies eyes. The queues on american side were almost empty every time, so we realized we could get 16 people together, hit the queue button at the same time, and pretty reliably end all up on the same side. The nazi jet jalopies never had a chance against 16 goons. Some were mad enough to cry about it in /r/WarThunder


Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs5Bos5dkls



















Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Sep 9, 2017

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
P-51H should bring some players back, if the statcard corresponds to how it actually plays and is a Spacefire Mk.24 beater with seven minutes of WEP at 5.7.
Only to drive away even more axis players..

GrossMurpel
Apr 8, 2011

MrLonghair posted:

P-51H should bring some players back, if the statcard corresponds to how it actually plays and is a Spacefire Mk.24 beater with seven minutes of WEP at 5.7.
Only to drive away even more axis players..

Yeah I can't wait for people to start spamming out P51s so you can't find a game when queueing as American anymore. Also can't wait for all the German players to quit now that all Americans will always be above them.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


It's ok, Hokkaido still exists.

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ArchRanger
Mar 19, 2007
I'm tired of following my dreams, I'm just gonna ask where they're goin' and meet up with 'em there.

GrossMurpel posted:

Yeah I can't wait for people to start spamming out P51s so you can't find a game when queueing as American anymore. Also can't wait for all the German players to quit now that all Americans will always be above them.

109s are also supposedly getting a FM buff this coming patch.

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