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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
why is it important for socialism to say the word practice like a toddler

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platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Al! posted:

why is it important for socialism to say the word practice like a toddler
Same reason you write folks as folx: X is the most bad rear end letter.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Al! posted:

why is it important for socialism to say the word practice like a toddler

it's ancient Greek you racist

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

platzapS posted:

Same reason you write folks as folx: X is the most bad rear end letter.

one of my professors does and it drives me mad, what is the X accomplishing that K did not

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Business Gorillas posted:

there's a difference between pivoting to the center and learning how to talk to people using terms they're familiar with and not just shouting PRAXIS at them until they walk away from you

no one is saying to do the latter and you bring up this imagined caricature of people you disagree with roughly five times per week

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

nah our branding and jargon suck and only serve to make very online people feel like they have hold of some esoteric knowledge while alienating normal people sympathetic to socdem policies

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Al! posted:

why is it important for socialism to say the word practice like a toddler

socialists are fans of Star Trek VI

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
you've not experienced marx until you've read him in the original klingon

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Breakfast All Day posted:

nah our branding and jargon suck and only serve to make very online people feel like they have hold of some esoteric knowledge while alienating normal people sympathetic to socdem policies

:catstare:

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004


alas i am outed (for treadmill posting)

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
You can't be a communist unless you use the fancy word for refinement process

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"
[quote="“Larry Parrish”" post="“476269098”"]
You can’t be a communist unless you use the fancy word for refinement process
[/quote]

Theory - Smelt - Theory - Smelt

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Government by the normies, for the normies

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Had our official elections and passed our bylaws today here in NH.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

OhFunny posted:

Had our official elections and passed our bylaws today here in NH.

Congrats to the new chair, Fanny Dentonte.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/QueensDSA/status/906929876137136130

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Al! posted:

why is it important for socialism to say the word practice like a toddler

Lol

Vhak lord of hate
Jun 6, 2008

I AM DRINK THE BLOOD OF JESUS

R. Guyovich posted:

no one is saying to do the latter and you bring up this imagined caricature of people you disagree with roughly five times per week

In what universe are obnoxious anarchist/communists an imagined caricature? Talk to anyone handing out vanguard newspapers outside leftist events and see if anyone who isn't already extremely deep in leftist poo poo would think they're convincing.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
I don't think it's a terrible thing for leftists to have a vocabulary word.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
I'm way into putting things into as common and explicable of terms as possible in politics. It just works better. I'm not a fan of Mao but some leftists could probably take a cue from how vernacular he always was.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
we were about to do socialism but then i was triggered by a funny word

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
i'm glad the austin dsa has cut ties with the cop unionist

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Vhak lord of hate posted:

In what universe are obnoxious anarchist/communists an imagined caricature? Talk to anyone handing out vanguard newspapers outside leftist events and see if anyone who isn't already extremely deep in leftist poo poo would think they're convincing.

Yeah, but the people selling papers are Trots, and no one likes them. Not even Trots like Trots.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

ScrubLeague posted:

i'm glad the austin dsa has cut ties with the cop unionist

I'm praying when the DSA eats itself they all come back to the Democrats and don't just give up on politics forever.

fermun
Nov 4, 2009

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Yeah, but the people selling papers are Trots, and no one likes them. Not even Trots like Trots.

I like Trots! I'm very much a proponent of a Vanguard, I just don't want to be in the vanguard because that seems like a lot of work.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Jeb! Repetition posted:

I'm praying when the DSA eats itself they all come back to the Democrats and don't just give up on politics forever.

My dude the DSA won the Cop Thought War while the Dem party is becoming the suck zone irl

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jeb! Repetition posted:

I'm praying when the DSA eats itself they all come back to the Democrats and don't just give up on politics forever.

shut up, liberal

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Taintrunner posted:

shut up, liberal

:catstare:

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Thug Lessons posted:

I don't think it's a terrible thing for leftists to have a vocabulary word.

It smacks of book reading, methinks

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Larry Parrish posted:

It smacks of book reading, methinks

Now this is where you're wrong. Communism is being criticised for your opinion on books you haven't read by people who haven't read the books, while you criticise them for books you haven't read and neither have they.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Al! posted:

why is it important for socialism to say the word practice like a toddler

Best post Al! has ever made

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Autism Sneaks posted:

actually, compromising ideologically for the sake of pragmatism is dumb normie poo poo. the goal isn't to widen the umbrella, it's to convince people to get under it to escape the torrential downpour of poo poo that is capitalist society

stupid bullshit

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
sums up your posting well

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
RIP DSA. Thought about praxis, died.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I've read a few explanations and still don't get what praxis is, are the DSA all cyborgs?

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Inescapable Duck posted:

I've read a few explanations and still don't get what praxis is, are the DSA all cyborgs?

The eventual end goal of communism is the borg collective, so more like aspiring cyborgs.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Inescapable Duck posted:

I've read a few explanations and still don't get what praxis is, are the DSA all cyborgs?

Praxis is applying what you believe in the real world

Ex:

Theory: jarofpiss thinks people within communities should stand in solidarity with one another

Praxis: jarofpiss and his comrades help people dig out their homes post hurricane harvey

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
The key to the concept that differentiates praxis from "practice" is that it's done with consciousness.

From Gramsci: "The average worker has a practical activity but has no clear theoretical consciousness of his activity in and understanding of the world; indeed, his theoretical consciousness can be “historically” in conflict with his activity. In other words, he will have two theoretical consciousnesses: one that is implicit in his activity and that really unites him with all his fellow workers in the practical transformation of the world and a superficial, “explicit” one that he has inherited from the past."

It's practice done with theory, informed by and informing it. Shouting it at people won't convert them to socialism, but it's still worth talking about when people are getting involved as its what differentiates doing just activism towards practices like universal health care, and translating that towards building a movement towards socialism.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

we've been driving around handing out visa gift cards to displaced families but only after they give me a brief analysis of the grundrisse

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GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

jarofpiss posted:

we've been driving around handing out visa gift cards to displaced families but only after they give me a brief analysis of the grundrisse

good-rear end praxis, comrade

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