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The Fuzzy Hulk: Nov 22, 2007; ASK ME ABOUT CROSSING THE STREAMS

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Different title card also.

Looks the same to me...

# ? Sep 12, 2017 02:44

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# ? May 13, 2024 10:38

corn in the bible: Jun 5, 2004; Oh no oh god it's all true!

Evek posted:

Anyone who doesn't rank Nemesis as the worst Star Trek movie of all time is a soulless minion of orthodoxy.

They're both on the bottom but I still think Nemesis is better than Into Darkness

# ? Sep 12, 2017 03:36

Eiba: Jul 26, 2007

Into Darkness had a cool plot about militarism in Star Fleet being not-the-way. It had a nice bit where Kirk was tempted to launch missiles into a foreign country to kill a terrorist, and was told, "wait, that's bad" and then he realized it was actually loving bad, and didn't do it.

There were good parts of Into Darkness. Unlike the first reboot movie there were some honest moments of good idealism. Section 31 was a good villain. It was a DS9 reference and was about actively rejecting militarism.

And then there was the last act with Khan that everyone remembers and rightfully shits on and I can't blame anyone for calling the whole mess poo poo, but it's not unadulterated poo poo.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 04:05

Tighclops: Jan 23, 2008; Unable to deal with it; Grimey Drawer

The best parts of new Star Trek are when it tries to be like old Star Trek

# ? Sep 12, 2017 04:08

mycomancy: Oct 16, 2016

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Even if the war happened a little fast, that was a good episode. Besides the Yar stuff. I really wish they could've left well enough alone and not retconned her death back to pointless.

Actually that's not Tasha Yar, that's her daughter.
:goonsay:

# ? Sep 12, 2017 04:15

Hipster_Doofus: Dec 20, 2003; Lovin' every minute of it.

Senor Tron posted:

"We could transport someone but you would be insane to do so, we can't teleport a soul".

Come to think of it were there ever any races in Trek that entirely eschewed transports for reasons like that? It seems like something a race like the Bajorans would do.

You'd think there'd be plenty of Humans who would say no thanks. I mean come on every one of us in the future is an atheist? Since when does Start Rek paint an entire species/civilization as a homogen... oh, right.

turn left hillary!! noo posted:

I literally have not seen Insurrection or Nemesis since Nemesis came out. I might have seen Insurrection on video around that time, but I don't remember for sure.

And I'm OK with that.

Edit: I probably haven't seen First Contact in nearly as long. I'm more or less OK with that too.

Re-watch Insurrection with the Frakes/Sirtis commentary. They get drrnka and it's a hoot.

Hipster_Doofus fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Sep 12, 2017

# ? Sep 12, 2017 04:24

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Nemesis is the only Start Truck movie I've only seen once.

fake edit: Actually that's not true I haven't rewatched any of the JJtrek ones. But they genuinely never cross my mind when I think of Trek movies.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 04:47

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Senor Tron posted:

"We could transport someone but you would be insane to do so, we can't teleport a soul".

"You know what happens to ships that regularly use transporters? Ghosts. Millions of them."

# ? Sep 12, 2017 04:52

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

After The War posted:

It also gets more rage-inducing the more you think about it, as opposed to the start-to-finish cerebral piledriver that is Nemesis.

I really like "start-to-finish cerebral piledriver"

# ? Sep 12, 2017 04:57

Winifred Madgers: Feb 12, 2002

Trip report: DS9 season 5, episode 7 "Let He Who Is Without Sin..."

Worf did nothing wrong. :colbert:

# ? Sep 12, 2017 05:11

Paradoxish: Dec 19, 2003; Will you stop going crazy in there?

Eiba posted:

Into Darkness had a cool plot about militarism in Star Fleet being not-the-way. It had a nice bit where Kirk was tempted to launch missiles into a foreign country to kill a terrorist, and was told, "wait, that's bad" and then he realized it was actually loving bad, and didn't do it.

There were good parts of Into Darkness. Unlike the first reboot movie there were some honest moments of good idealism. Section 31 was a good villain. It was a DS9 reference and was about actively rejecting militarism.

And then there was the last act with Khan that everyone remembers and rightfully shits on and I can't blame anyone for calling the whole mess poo poo, but it's not unadulterated poo poo.

The absolute best part of Into Darkness was Scotty resigning. It's barely a two minute long scene, but it feels more like Star Trek than anything else in the movie.

_{aside from the thankfully-not-a-brewery but still terrible engineering set and warp core}

# ? Sep 12, 2017 05:13

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

Orv posted:

Does TNG ever really establish if Warbirds can warp while cloaked? They show up under the Enterprise's nose enough that I'd kind of assume they can, but in Redemption they have to move at sublight while cloaked so the blockade is actually a feasible idea and uggggggggggh (fake) science. Either way you'd think they could just warp at right angles out of range of the blockade and get there way faster anyway.

Yeah it's established if they go faster than Warp 6 the cloak doesn't work very well. A few years later Starfleet will run into similar problems when they stick a cloaking device on one of their ships and it doesn't really work as advertised.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 05:54

FuturePastNow: May 19, 2014

cloaking devices function as well or as poorly as they need to at any time

# ? Sep 12, 2017 06:01

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

Arglebargle III posted:

Yeah it's established if they go faster than Warp 6 the cloak doesn't work very well. A few years later Starfleet will run into similar problems when they stick a cloaking device on one of their ships and it doesn't really work as advertised.

Hey, it worked as advertised until the people actually monitoring the prototype got shot shoved in an escape pod.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 06:03

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Tunicate posted:

"You know what happens to ships that regularly use transporters? Ghosts. Millions of them."

Do you generate a new ghost every time you're transported, or just the first time?

# ? Sep 12, 2017 07:07

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Powered Descent posted:

Do you generate a new ghost every time you're transported, or just the first time?

You generate one ghost for each time you were transported.

That is, the first trip creates one ghost, the second trip creates two, and so on.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 07:49

Big Mean Jerk: Jan 27, 2009; Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Skinny Pete will always have the definitive transporter answers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIsauNJ392o

# ? Sep 12, 2017 07:54

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Pakled posted:

Try not to think about how a blockade would work in 3D space.

It would work you just needs lots of ships

Lots of them

# ? Sep 12, 2017 08:03

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

I figured the blockade was more like a sensor net even if that isn't at all what they said. Gettin all Lensman about it. Also if the Roms had taken the long way around the ecliptic or something there wouldn't be any room for them to claim blah blah whatever political poo poo the bowlheads wanted to talk about.

Hipster_Doofus posted:

You'd think there'd be plenty of Humans who would say no thanks. I mean come on every one of us in the future is an atheist? Since when does Start Rek paint an entire species/civilization as a homogen... oh, right.

If you have a fundamental philosophical objection to being transported, I figure you can't work in Starfleet. Like that's not a reasonable accommodation, that's just "this is clearly not for you."

# ? Sep 12, 2017 08:11

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

You know 20 Federation Starships with some replicator time are probably carrying enough remote sensor platforms to start to make this sort of thing work. They just didn't mention launching probes.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 13:07

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

Look, if a warp field comes within half a light year of a collimated tachyon beam there's a measurable disruption to the frequen

# ? Sep 12, 2017 13:14

Orv: May 4, 2011

Worf, son of Mogh, a man who keeps ritual suicide knife juice in his quarters because you just never know.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 17:45

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

Worf definitely hosed Pulaski

# ? Sep 12, 2017 17:48

Mister Kingdom: Dec 14, 2005; And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Worf definitely hosed Pulaski

That's why she had to leave at the end of the season. Recovery will take years.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 18:19

vermin: Feb 28, 2017; Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up

I'm worried about signing up for Starfleet. I hear sometimes you get surprise impregnated by aliens. I know you have a higher chance of traveling back in time and getting stuck in a temporal loop but I still don't want to take that chance.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 18:30

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

vermin posted:

I'm worried about signing up for Starfleet. I hear sometimes you get surprise impregnated by aliens. I know you have a higher chance of traveling back in time and getting stuck in a temporal loop but I still don't want to take that chance.

You can't avoid it. You're already in the loop (and pregnant)

# ? Sep 12, 2017 18:35

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Would love to see the Waiver form for Starfleet

# ? Sep 12, 2017 18:41

Big Mean Jerk: Jan 27, 2009; Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Would love to see the Waiver form for Starfleet

It takes up an entire course at the academy

# ? Sep 12, 2017 18:47

John Wick of Dogs: Mar 4, 2017; A real hellraiser

vermin posted:

I'm worried about signing up for Starfleet. I hear sometimes you get surprise impregnated by aliens. I know you have a higher chance of traveling back in time and getting stuck in a temporal loop but I still don't want to take that chance.

You know you can easily leave most pregnancy behind in the pattern buffer.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 18:53

yeah actually they will: Aug 18, 2012

Al Borland Corp. posted:

You know you can easily leave most pregnancy behind in the pattern buffer.

Nah it just gets transferred to the person next to you

# ? Sep 12, 2017 18:58

Bohemian Nights: Jul 14, 2006; When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today; Clapping Larry

vermin posted:

I'm worried about signing up for Starfleet. I hear sometimes you get surprise impregnated by aliens. I know you have a higher chance of traveling back in time and getting stuck in a temporal loop but I still don't want to take that chance.

that's just an urban myth. maybe you should sign up to starfleet so you can take some basic temporal mechanics classes and not make an rear end out of yourself on the galaxy wide web

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:01

Cross-Section: Mar 18, 2009

Gahhh, they hosed with the opening bars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dYJ2dXKAIs

Otherwise an okay-rear end theme with some tonal cues from Giacchino's stuff.

Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Sep 12, 2017

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:03

Bohemian Nights: Jul 14, 2006; When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today; Clapping Larry

Cross-Section posted:

Gahhh, they hosed with the opening bars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dYJ2dXKAIs

Otherwise an okay-rear end theme with some tonal cues from Giacchino's stuff.

stop region locking these things god drat

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:04

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Rest of the world link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b474uGkLJH8

Oh man, the opening notes being wrong is going to bother me.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:21

Big Mean Jerk: Jan 27, 2009; Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Cross-Section posted:

Gahhh, they hosed with the opening bars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dYJ2dXKAIs

Otherwise an okay-rear end theme with some tonal cues from Giacchino's stuff.

I kinda dig it, but it lacks a strong melody in the middle and it's definitely "Giacchino, but FOR TV!"

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:37

skasion: Feb 13, 2012; Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

It's fine, but it's no Faith of the Heart

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:44

Arglebargle III: Feb 21, 2006

What's a giazucchini is it a vegan coffee?

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:51

Instant Sunrise: Apr 12, 2007; The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

skasion posted:

It's fine, but it's no Faith of the Heart

i prefer this version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0ilQyFJH8c

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:54

Delsaber: Oct 1, 2013; This may or may not be correct.

It feels a little too Daredevil for a few moments in the middle but whatever, it's a perfectly fine theme that I'll listen to once in the pilot and then mute or skip in following episodes like I do with every other TV opening these days.

I'm more concerned about how the incidental music will turn out. Suffer not a pan flute to live.

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:55

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# ? May 13, 2024 10:38

cheetah7071: Oct 20, 2010; honk honk; College Slice

how do you gently caress up the starting four notes

# ? Sep 12, 2017 19:57

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