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Reik posted:Is there where we make snarky posts about mainstream Democrats saying Bernie's ideas were too extreme and could never get passed and now like 5-6 Democrat senators are co-sponsoring his Medicare for All bill? Let's be real - they're co-sponsoring it because it's 100% not going to pass, but they can use it as ammunition when they are primaried. It does show movement, and that's good, but we're a long way from winning. Just do what the Tea Party did: demand concessions, then primary them anyway.
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Pelosi is a mess E: Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Just do what the Tea Party did: demand concessions, then primary them anyway.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:48
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Lol at the inevitable dem civil war over single payer and some of the dems who support it punching left.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:54
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Mr Hootington posted:Lol at the inevitable dem civil war over single payer and some of the dems who pay lip service to it while it currently won't succeed punching left.
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Sep 12, 2017 19:54
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hillary's a pathetic shell of a human being. pretending she exited the 2008 primary gracefully is especially sad. she tried to claim she won cause she got more total votes than obama dunno how she forgot total votes aren't the most important thing in 8 years, but it doesn't show much wonkiness...
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Sep 12, 2017 20:46
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https://twitter.com/dubsteppenwolf/status/907376702963290112 always gross when people say this kind of poo poo. it's entirely backwards. you have to work for peoples' votes
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/dubsteppenwolf/status/907376702963290112
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/dubsteppenwolf/status/907376702963290112 Even as a centrist as I am this is a new level of lovely. Mr Hootington posted:Lol at the inevitable dem civil war over single payer and some of the dems who support it punching left. It does appear the biggest divide is going to be for support of single payer. It'll be interesting to see if dems openly supporting it succeeded in 2018. Will Tom Perez play favorites based on this issue do you think?
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Sep 12, 2017 21:09
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Skyscraper posted:I think she's being sarcastic. lol
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Sep 12, 2017 21:11
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Skyscraper posted:I think she's being sarcastic. I tried reading it pretty generously (as centrists are wont to do) and I can't say it is sarcasm.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:14
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in fairness that is literally just some random fan of hillary's a particularly, hilariously noxious one, to be sure, but you might as well go diving into trump's replies twitter to explain why he's bad
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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:You would think someone who isn't even in your party offering a serious primary challenge to the heir apparent would give some pause at least, but when you're 100% certain of your world view...
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Ze Pollack posted:in fairness that is literally just some random fan of hillary's this is also true, but I think it is safe to say that there was a sense of entitlement with regards to hillary's vote expectation.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:16
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Ze Pollack posted:in fairness that is literally just some random fan of hillary's buddy you dont even know the half of it https://twitter.com/i/moments/907418935015776258
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Even as a centrist as I am this is a new level of lovely. Nobody gives a poo poo about the DNC and the dems are going to lose in 2018 after the idiot
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Mr Hootington posted:Nobody gives a poo poo about the DNC and the dems are going to lose in 2018 after the idiot I haven't seen any indication that the DNC plans to support any tax plan. Can you show me what is making you think this way? Also, the DNC is going to be a pretty critical component of success whether you want them to be or not.
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Skyscraper posted:I think she's being sarcastic. nah, she's been like this forever. also apparently she face-swapped her profile pic with hillary?  vs https://twitter.com/buttermilkbup/status/907381861210398720 is what she actually looks like 
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I haven't seen any indication that the DNC plans to support any tax plan. Can you show me what is making you think this way? Also, the DNC is going to be a pretty critical component of success whether you want them to be or not. That component is faulty, and should be replaced.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I haven't seen any indication that the DNC plans to support any tax plan. Can you show me what is making you think this way? Also, the DNC is going to be a pretty critical component of success whether you want them to be or not. No.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:25
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Skyscraper posted:I think she's being sarcastic. Have you ever heard of her?
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Sep 12, 2017 21:26
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Ze Pollack posted:in fairness that is literally just some random fan of hillary's people demanding people's votes because they're x and should know better is always gross
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Sep 12, 2017 21:27
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Condiv posted:nah, she's been like this forever. also apparently she face-swapped her profile pic with hillary? That's a really stupid conspiracy theory, the lower pictures look like her profile pic, she just took that one from a different angle, in different light, with different make up. Her nasolabial fold is prominent as it is on Hillary, but that's apparent even from her other pics, the angle from above merely makes them less apparent. The only sad thing about her profile pic is the hairline.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:28
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Raskolnikov38 posted:buddy you dont even know the half of it Condiv posted:nah, she's been like this forever. also apparently she face-swapped her profile pic with hillary? 
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Also, the DNC is going to be a pretty critical component of success whether you want them to be or not.
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Mister Facetious posted:That component is faulty, and should be replaced. Yeah, that's kinda the point of the thread. Replace the members of the DNC, but I doubt you are going to replace the DNC by 2018. In the mean time it may be useful to know what they plan to do in 2018 as far as funding candidates, and who they are likely to favor. no? Got it, you have no actual information to base this opinion on, and are just poo poo posting. Thanks.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:30
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steinrokkan posted:That's a really stupid conspiracy theory, the lower pictures look like her profile pic, she just took that one from a different angle, in different light, with different make up. Her nasolabial fold is prominent as it is on Hillary, but that's apparent even from her other pics, the angle from above merely makes them less apparent. a conspiracy theory is a theory with more than one person acting in tandem towards some secret goal. this is a stupid rumour, but still fun
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Sep 12, 2017 21:30
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Kilroy posted:A big part of their strategy for winning districts is "don't get involved" so basically the DNC itself disagrees with you on this. right, and that needs to change. in the mean time, i would still like to know what the actual game plan is for 2018. It will be interesting to see if Perez pulls the same poo poo as others have in the past.
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Sep 12, 2017 21:32
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:right, and that needs to change. in the mean time, i would still like to know what the actual game plan is for 2018. It will be interesting to see if Perez pulls the same poo poo as others have in the past. Perez promised to have a 50 state strategy. So far he has really come short of that promise.
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Condiv posted:a conspiracy theory is a theory with more than one person acting in tandem towards some secret goal. this is a stupid rumour, but still fun As a radical centrist I must protect literal trash person Candice Aiston from slander. BTW, I recently made a Twitter account just to respond to her tweet, it had no followers or even a profile pic, and she still blocked me. That woman must spend like all her time curating her loving account.
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I don't think there's anything especially obvious - or anything really - from the DNC suggesting a stance on tax reform, but there are members of the house like Tim Ryan who have come out as proponents of the GOP's plans as presented. Aside from him that there's been no real voice one way or the other, as far as I recall, though I'm not expecting Ryan to be all on his lonesome when it comes to peddling right-wing tax policy.
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steinrokkan posted:Perez promised to have a 50 state strategy. So far he has really come short of that promise. Yeah, it would seem so. Any thoughts on what is preventing him from getting something done? I have avoided most DNC informartion since the lection so I am not sure what the internals look like at the moment other then ellison and perez trying to pick up pieces left over from DWS.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Yeah, that's kinda the point of the thread. Replace the members of the DNC, but I doubt you are going to replace the DNC by 2018. In the mean time it may be useful to know what they plan to do in 2018 as far as funding candidates, and who they are likely to favor. no? I'm a pundit.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Yeah, it would seem so. Any thoughts on what is preventing him from getting something done? I have avoided most DNC informartion since the lection so I am not sure what the internals look like at the moment other then ellison and perez trying to pick up pieces left over from DWS. I don't think it's a problem of him being prevented from acting, but rather a problem of nobody forcing him to act. The Dems have been having trouble fundraising, but a 50 state strategy shouldn't be hamstrung by that, it should rely on small, high return investments into so far neglected local branches.
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Radish posted:If I was Hillary Clinton I would take all my money and just vamoose to a tropical paradise, live off my wealth in my twilight years, and hang out with all the rich people I considers my peers. I wouldn't even need to be with Bill anymore if I didn't feel like it since who gives a poo poo about optics when you just bug out. It sounds a lot more fun than wasting time with this stupid tour. A photo surfaces of Hillary with a harem of balding 30/40-something men. Majorian posted:My money's still on MIGF, but there really are so many candidates. MIGF always gave me the impression of being a genuine troll (in the sense of fake-posting for the sake of humor). Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Yeah, it would seem so. Any thoughts on what is preventing him from getting something done? I have avoided most DNC informartion since the lection so I am not sure what the internals look like at the moment other then ellison and perez trying to pick up pieces left over from DWS. no idea, but the genesis of this specific thread was perez going back on his 50-state strategy with ignoring ks04. amazingly, a bunch of people rushed in to assure me that it was just a one-time thing and perez was going to support more than ossoff, and that ossoff wasn't being supported just because he had interned under the D.C. dems. Condiv fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Sep 12, 2017 |
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steinrokkan posted:Perez promised to have a 50 state strategy. So far he has really come short of that promise. He couldn't even give an answer to Chuck Todd of all people as to whether or not he was even providing the Alabama senate race with staff and funding. The most pessimistic reading of this particular case is that Jones, an advocate for increasing the minimum wage and improving health care beyond simply saying 'ACA good', is a low priority for DNC attention due to the whims of the same people who felt the need to intervene in the DNC elections. I guess the optimistic reading, then, would be their rationale being 'lol Alabama' in a race where Jones' opponent is going to be someone who thinks gays should be executed.
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Jesus Christ, there is no bottom to how much of a terrible person she is. In an alternate reality she would have been a great Stalin-like figure.
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Mr Hootington posted:I'm a pundit. Checks out. Condiv posted:no idea, but the genesis of this specific thread was perez going back on his 50-state strategy with ignoring ks04. amazingly, a bunch of people rushed in to assure me that it was just a one-time thing and perez was going to support more than ossoff, and that ossoff wasn't being supported cause he had interned under the D.C. dems. steinrokkan posted:I don't think it's a problem of him being prevented from acting, but rather a problem of nobody forcing him to act. The Dems have been having trouble fundraising, but a 50 state strategy shouldn't be hamstrung by that, it should rely on small, high return investments into so far neglected local branches. Has Ellison made any rumblings since the election? I can't imagine he's too happy with the state of things. Last I heard he and Perez were working together on strategy, but it doesn't seem like they've actually changed anything.
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