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31 is stronger top to bottom
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Dave insisting the WWE Universe isn't a place absolutely cracked me up on WOR tonight 
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Sep 12, 2017 12:09
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Trying to recap the NJPW multiman finish was G1-block-final levels of "Um.... okay. So.... here we go. So Taka..... okay."
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Sep 12, 2017 12:22
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Semp used to be good on Sin Limantay with Dave, but now sucks.
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Bryan Alvarez is a nutjob and we love him for it, Semp is a boring mushmouth.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Bryan Alvarez is a nutjob and we love him for it, Semp is a boring mushmouth. B "I'm trying to think how to explain how many people, 300 people is. Okay, imagine a car, k?" C "oh here we go" B "let's say you can get....5 people in a car, right? V "This is going to be a long night" B "Now imagine you've got 20 cars full of people. Imagine that in your head. Now imagine you have that many people......times 3!" The defeated interjections by Vinny and Craig made this awful metaphor so much more amazing.
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Sep 12, 2017 15:53
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Their horrified discussion of War Games 98 was so great. Trying to figure out exactly how the rules of Warrior's teleportation worked and Bryan softly musing on the relevance of the jacket to his powers 
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Sep 13, 2017 11:36
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Holy poo poo I came to post that. So good!!!
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Sep 13, 2017 12:01
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I still don't understand the collective delusion over the boring-rear end slog that was 31. 32 was a better wrestlemania because it was a hilarious train wreck while my recollection of 31 is a miasma of mediocre forgettable wrestling bookended by Seth doing cool things that can be recapped in a minute-long gif.
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Dimebags Brain posted:I still don't understand the collective delusion over the boring-rear end slog that was 31. 32 was a better wrestlemania because it was a hilarious train wreck while my recollection of 31 is a miasma of mediocre forgettable wrestling bookended by Seth doing cool things that can be recapped in a minute-long gif. Expectations going into that show were absolutely dismal, and while none of the matches were particularly great, nothing was BAD. So when you're expecting a * show but you get a ***3/4 show you're like "holy poo poo this is the best thing ever."
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Sep 13, 2017 14:38
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they're all terrible. quit deluding yourselves.
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Dimebags Brain posted:I still don't understand the collective delusion over the boring-rear end slog that was 31. 32 was a better wrestlemania because it was a hilarious train wreck while my recollection of 31 is a miasma of mediocre forgettable wrestling bookended by Seth doing cool things that can be recapped in a minute-long gif. Really good tag match, one of the best traditional battle royals in years, great ladder match, good Orton/Rollins match, good Cena/Rusev, great main event and a hilarious trainwreck of Sting vs HHH. Sounds like a hell of a slog!
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Sep 13, 2017 16:50
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Seth Rollins Mania 31-Injury title run was basically Jinder's run with better workrate and even more people interfering (J&J, Kane, Taker, Jon Stewart)
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Sep 13, 2017 16:51
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At least Jinder is the top guy in his own group.
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it helps that Jinder never sent a dick pic to a nazi sympathizer.
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MassRafTer posted:Really good tag match, one of the best traditional battle royals in years, great ladder match, good Orton/Rollins match, good Cena/Rusev, great main event and a hilarious trainwreck of Sting vs HHH. I literally remember nothing from those matches besides the RKO, and I seriously doubt your ascertation that Randy Orton had a good singles match.
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I dunno, it doesn't seem that difficult to figure out to me. People remember WM31 as a good show because it's largely thought of as a show with good matches and a great, memorable main event. WM32's high points were much earlier in the show, it was much longer without much to show for it, and had a couple of stretches where it was either boring, bad, or both.
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Sep 13, 2017 17:13
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Jerusalem posted:Their horrified discussion of War Games 98 was so great. Trying to figure out exactly how the rules of Warrior's teleportation worked and Bryan softly musing on the relevance of the jacket to his powers Vinny gave that match positive stars. He's broken
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Sep 13, 2017 18:26
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Web Jew.0 posted:31 is stronger top to bottom in what way? outside of the main, the goofy triple h/sting match with the bad finish, and that one spot in orton/rollins 30 is a way more compelling show, even if taker/lesnar is bad outside of the shock ending
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Sep 13, 2017 19:34
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31 had a unique atmosphere, plenty of memorable moments (the RKO, Sting finally wrestling in WWE, a loving tank), and enough good matches to sustain the show until the great main event. Really can't ask for more from a Mania without getting into top 10 status. 32 was so bad that I apologized to everyone who came over to watch it.
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Sep 13, 2017 22:49
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Wrestlemania is for the birds.
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Sep 13, 2017 22:56
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Charles Gnarwin posted:31 had a unique atmosphere, plenty of memorable moments (the RKO, Sting finally wrestling in WWE, a loving tank), and enough good matches to sustain the show until the great main event. Really can't ask for more from a Mania without getting into top 10 status. 32 was dogshit but i thought we were talking 30 vs 31
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Sep 13, 2017 23:24
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In addition to Bryan, Vinny and Craig's discussion of War Games 98, their recounting of Giant vs Meng was so great I'm gonna track it down and watch it after NXT tonight, it sounds so amazing.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:32 was dogshit but i thought we were talking 30 vs 31 Dimebags Brain posted:I still don't understand the collective delusion over the boring-rear end slog that was 31. 32 was a better wrestlemania because it was a hilarious train wreck while my recollection of 31 is a miasma of mediocre forgettable wrestling bookended by Seth doing cool things that can be recapped in a minute-long gif.
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Sep 14, 2017 01:48
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well that's just loving stupid
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Sep 14, 2017 01:49
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32 was five hours of spite booking that didn't even manage to get Roman over but also didn't convince them to give up on him.
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:32 was dogshit but i thought we were talking 30 vs 31 I was responding to the original argument and didn't even both addressing the subsequent assertion because it is ridiculous to claim that 31 is better than one of the best Manias of all time.
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More fuel for Bryan Alvarez: https://twitter.com/wai0937/status/908042188516454403
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Sep 14, 2017 04:40
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32 was a loving funeral dirge and I'm baffled that anyone would prefer it to 31
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Sep 14, 2017 06:04
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"A hilarious train wreck" is an appropriate thing to say about a so-bad-its-good movie that lasts 90 minutes, not a 7 hour show of mostly tedium
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Jerusalem posted:In addition to Bryan, Vinny and Craig's discussion of War Games 98, their recounting of Giant vs Meng was so great I'm gonna track it down and watch it after NXT tonight, it sounds so amazing. It was amazing. I loved his description of Giant being so physically wrecked leaving like he had just finished main eventing the Tokyo Dome even though it was only a 3 minute match.
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Dave Meltzer has the weirdest loving opinions on things recently and I'm starting to find him almost unlistenable. I want to like him so bad but he's been going off on tangents that are so long and pointless even for him
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Dave owns you dope
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Big Bidness posted:Dave owns you dope I use to listen to him and enjoy him for years but he goes off about the dumbest poo poo now. He talked around himself in circles for 15 minutes about how dumb it was that Vince bled from a head butt from Kevin Owens because Bryan Danielson and Nigel never bled when they head butted eachother Usually his tangents are charming but the last like two years ago they've gone into some weird "I'm just talking to talk" realm
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Aesop Poprock posted:I use to listen to him and enjoy him for years but he goes off about the dumbest poo poo now. He talked around himself in circles for 15 minutes about how dumb it was that Vince bled from a head butt from Kevin Owens because Bryan Danielson and Nigel never bled when they head butted eachother Oh I see what the problem is, you missed the point completely.
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Sep 14, 2017 19:32
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Aesop Poprock posted:I use to listen to him and enjoy him for years but he goes off about the dumbest poo poo now. He talked around himself in circles for 15 minutes about how dumb it was that Vince bled from a head butt from Kevin Owens because Bryan Danielson and Nigel never bled when they head butted eachother maybe try again with the playback speed set to .75 or something
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Sep 14, 2017 19:36
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Lone Goat posted:Oh I see what the problem is, you missed the point completely. I guess, what was the point supposed to be
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Sep 14, 2017 19:39
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Aesop Poprock posted:I guess, what was the point supposed to be Slamming your head into another person's head so hard it causes visible injury is extremely stupid. Bryan and Nigel both have broken brains due to, among other things, headbutts, and Shibata's stiff headbutts pretty much ended his career. It is just a very stupid thing to do for the sake of a fake sport.
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