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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


Oh man the OG kitn scene

I do appreciate that in this metaphor Theon is Manchin

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Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
I figured Duckworth would have been an early co-sponsor, so I'm guessing that big infographic is out of date or something?

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Bernie is actually worthy of his respect and admiration. Hillary? Heh, she owned slaves my dude

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


speaking of which it is Wednesday

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


loquacius posted:

Oh man the OG kitn scene

I do appreciate that in this metaphor Theon is Manchin

bernie just gotta watch out for freys, he can deal w/ manchin turning on him after going home to the coal islands

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Quick lesson on politics/messaging from a phlegmy geriatric:

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/907949996066136064
1. Millions of Americans are in deep trouble.
2. The GOP wants to kill you.
3. Every major country* is already doing this.
4. The people and grassroots orgs. are with us.
5. Big business is against us.
6. We only do this by fighting for it.


* Don't loving wonk over this you idiots.




https://twitter.com/JStein_Vox/status/907959802952912896
The "Bernie is a pie-in-the-sky moron who doesn't play well with others" myth has always been bullshit, but this is the latest debunking.

Frijolero has issued a correction as of 16:34 on Sep 13, 2017

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
didn't expect bernie's plan to get a republican endorsement :v:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/907990867553800192

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Joementum posted:

didn't expect bernie's plan to get a republican endorsement :v:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/907990867553800192

didn't he say this like a week ago or am I having deja vu

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Reminder that beltway libs and pundits are our enemies:

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/907990175011151872

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Frijolero posted:

Team Bern is doing it y'all.

https://twitter.com/gdebenedetti/status/907966957936406528

Bernie's list already includes Duckworth and Leahy even though they haven't declared support yet (I think).

Hell yeah,

here's the donate link:

https://secure.actblue.com/donate/bernie-mfa-senate-cosponsors

:bernget:

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

zegermans posted:

oh neat


how does Alberta still exist

Alberta is a petro state. They have plenty of money to throw around, at least they did when oil was higher.

In Canada our healthcare system is Provincial. Ontario's system is different than that of Quebec's is different than the one in Alberta. The Feds set the standards but the Provinces run their systems.

Our system doesn't cover everything completely(drugs, dental, mental health, ect) but having worked and lived in the United States I would much rather live under the Canadian system.

- One last point about our system that centerists will actually love... Because healthcare is taken care of by the government SMALL BUSINESSES aren't on the hook for providing healthcare to their employees. Really the only people who lose when you nationalize healthcare will be insurance companies, drug companies, and the people who they pay off.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Zoran posted:

Bernie, is good,

*blows on bubble pipe*

indeed :smugdog::pipe:

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Frijolero posted:

Reminder that beltway libs and pundits are our enemies:

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/907990175011151872

deleted :laffo:

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

guess he was fixing something with it

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/907993570128400385

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

what’d it say.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Millions of Americans should die and suffer economic hardships because of JOBS! Think of the JOBS!

Not like those people can now get jobs in the new state run Health ministries.

Also we still have health insurance companies in Canada. This argument is loving stupid.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dirk Pitt posted:

what’d it say.

Here it is, dunno what happened:

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/907990352832774144

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Oh no, those jobs telling people they aren't covered and they're going to go bankrupt and be hounded by creditors and repo men because they made the choice to get sick


Those wonderful, wonderful jobs

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


are there more pressing issues though

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

zegermans posted:

are there more pressing issues though

there are always more pressing issues

we can't address any problems with any of the systems that run our country until Republicans and racism are completely eradicated

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
yes, incumbent industries suffer job loss after innovation removes their position in the market

this is a problem inherent to capitalism that can easily be solved through government intervention

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Joementum posted:

yes, incumbent industries suffer job loss after innovation removes their position in the market

this is a problem inherent to capitalism that can easily be solved through government intervention

"but regulation means less money" :hurr:

*cuts nose off*

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Joementum posted:

yes, incumbent industries suffer job loss after innovation removes their position in the market

this is a problem inherent to capitalism that can easily be solved through government intervention

"Single-payer is bad because the insurance industry will lose jobs! :ohdear:"
"Ok, well, what about all the retail and service workers that are losing their jobs to automatic checkout kiosks? And what about the impending apocalypse when all the truck drivers in America lose their jobs to self-driving trucks?"
"Eh, none of them are executives."

Iron Twinkie
Apr 20, 2001

BOOP

Frijolero posted:

Quick lesson on politics/messaging from a phlegmy geriatric:

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/907949996066136064
1. Millions of Americans are in deep trouble.
2. The GOP wants to kill you.
3. Every major country* is already doing this.
4. The people and grassroots orgs. are with us.
5. Big business is against us.
6. We only do this by fighting for it.
* Don't loving wonk over this you idiots.

Bernie continues to be a massive piece of poo poo for for grabbing the spot light away from Clinton and tricking voters into wanting their lives to be better when they should be focusing on how badly they failed Hillary and should be groveling for another chance to lick her boots. There is a 100% chance of this being someone's actual take.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Iron Twinkie posted:

Bernie continues to be a massive piece of poo poo for for grabbing the spot light away from Clinton and tricking voters into wanting their lives to be better when they should be focusing on how badly they failed Hillary and should be groveling for another chance to lick her boots. There is a 100% chance of this being someone's actual take.

"this isn't spite politics, im not familiar with this territory and it terrifies me."

Terror Sweat
Mar 15, 2009

Iron Twinkie posted:

Bernie continues to be a massive piece of poo poo for for grabbing the spot light away from Clinton and tricking voters into wanting their lives to be better when they should be focusing on how badly they failed Hillary and should be groveling for another chance to lick her boots. There is a 100% chance of this being someone's actual take.

Luckily brain parasites are covered under m4a

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

loquacius posted:

"Single-payer is bad because the insurance industry will lose jobs! :ohdear:"
"Ok, well, what about all the retail and service workers that are losing their jobs to automatic checkout kiosks? And what about the impending apocalypse when all the truck drivers in America lose their jobs to self-driving trucks?"
"Eh, none of them are executives."

but these people work in OFFICES and have WORK PHONES!

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

What a garbage pile of poo poo.

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Great little article giving a timeline of single-payer. Starts with Truman and Jerry Brown, on to the various state proposals, and now Bernie's MfA

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/democrats-fought-25-years-over-single-payer-now-many-back-medicare-all-2589117

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
How is David Sirota so good when Michael Ramirez is so bad?

Frijolero posted:

Will be interesting to see what Maggie Hassan does. She's been milquetoast on healthcare, but Bernie did a lot of campaigning for her.

https://youtu.be/DZrGIIIBhNg

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 17:09 on Sep 13, 2017

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

zegermans posted:

didn't he say this like a week ago or am I having deja vu

you're thinking of the poster

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

am i imagining things or did he change that tweet from something about obama's concern about the entire insurance industry to his concern about insurance industry jobs?

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I don't want free healthcare, sorry

Unlike you I'm a grownup who cares about the profits of giant insurance corporations.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Joementum posted:

gonna need affordable healthcare to cure her of terminal new hampshire "maple" poisoning



Joe please don't mock NH's maple crisis like this.

I'll be calling Maggie Hassan's office after work to demand she support this.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

R. Mute posted:

am i imagining things or did he change that tweet from something about obama's concern about the entire insurance industry to his concern about insurance industry jobs?

no its how he phrased it in the one exmarx posted last night

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/907829240128733184

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

OhFunny posted:

Joe please don't mock NH's maple crisis like this.

I'll be calling Maggie Hassan's office after work to demand she support this.

Nice!

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!
just woke up does it have copays or not, i remember reading conflicting info last night

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

lol uspol gonna be a treat soon.

Why was that thread allowed to return.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Raskolnikov38 posted:

no its how he phrased it in the one exmarx posted last night

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/907829240128733184

what a bad president. i cant believe someone convinced me he wasn't so bad, briefly, from 2015-2016

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Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lessail posted:

just woke up does it have copays or not, i remember reading conflicting info last night

Dave Weigel reported that it does not, Bernie's website also says no copays.

But Jeff Stein has read a draft and it does include copays.


My guess is copays remain because Bernie doesn't want to rock the boat too much. We'll find out very soon.

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