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https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/908303464186482693quote:The major take aways from the post-Charlottesville Alt-Right fallout are two fold. First and foremost, those in positions of leadership within the Alt-Right are not good organizers. To organize well means that you can physically help manifest groups of people and facilitate their doing of an activity. It means that you can bring different groups together towards that activity. It also means that you can reach out to your base of support, which for the Alt-Right, at least online, is large, and get them to come into the real world.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Let me check Breitbart on the news... They missed the Pak? Rucka? I think Pak, run on the last volume of either Superman or Action Comics wherein a mostly depowred Superman fights cops who are loving with his minority neighbors using scraps of his cape as brass knuckles and then it turns out the cops and city hall have been infected sirh shadow monsters that make them hella racist So Superman beats up city hall
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 18:34 |
I gotta say it's encouraging that, well It would be pretty easy for comics and video games and movies to all lurch rightward in the modern age in pursuit of what seems like a ripe market in alt-righters and gamergaters and the like. Not to mention the prevailing political climate just as reflected by who's in power. But for the most part it seems like they're responding to the right's pressure by shoving back real hard. More feminism! More sympathy for immigrants! More LGBT representation! it's like it's only picking up steam
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 18:43 |
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I can't believe the news today. Can't close my eyes, and make it go away. Montasque posted:They are either stunned, rationalizing it, or not commenting. Bodies strewn across the dead-end streets. Wipe the tears from your eyes. Wipe your tears away. And the battle's just begun
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 19:01 |
Data Graham posted:I gotta say it's encouraging that, well Alt-right people love to harp about lowered sales because of "forced diversity" but it seems like everything is selling less these days.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 19:12 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:lib dipshit superman heaps the burden of responsibility on the disenfranchised willfully ignorant homicidal racist xenophobe who literally tried to murder people, instead of assigning blame to the capitalist that exploits illegal labor fixed that for you
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 20:42 |
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"lib dipshit" superman should've been punching CEOs in the dick while a racist committed mass murder of people who have it even worse than he does. good plan great plan comrade
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 20:43 |
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Data Graham posted:I gotta say it's encouraging that, well it depends on who's writing them honestly, and right now comics are on a fairly leftward slant besides shitheads like nick spencer SunAndSpring posted:Alt-right people love to harp about lowered sales because of "forced diversity" but it seems like everything is selling less these days. and the books that appeal to peple who aren't white dudes in their 40s sell just as well as everything else, minus books like batman that sell because they're called batman, it's why image has been doing so well in the last three years
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 20:59 |
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its also important to remember that comics as a medium was basically shaped by a bunch of jewish dudes in the 30s like the modern idea of a superhero is a direct line back to superman in action comics #1 by siegel and shuster, a comic that OPENS with superman bustin into the governor's mansion and tearing a door down to drag the governor out of bed to make him pardon an innocent man that the governor explicitly didn't give a fuk about and was going to let die. he spent a lot of the early years beating up corrupt politicians and fighting for the common man
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:01 |
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wrong thread
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:10 |
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wrong thread
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:11 |
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Elephant Ambush posted:"lib dipshit" superman should've been punching CEOs in the dick while a racist committed mass murder of people who have it even worse than he does. good plan great plan comrade This is all a wildly drawn conclusion you just invented in your head.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:13 |
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:17 |
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the worst superman story is the one where he's a republican shithead to people and the reaction was so fuckin bad the writer left the book in the middle of the run
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:20 |
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:28 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:This is all a wildly drawn conclusion you just invented in your head. Yes I'm sure the racist murdering chud would have listened to Superman tell him that it's all Wall Street's fault. Actually maybe he would but his agreement would be couched in anti-Semitic language. Stop defending racists just because they're poor. They'll fight socialism and/or communism literally to the death because the alternative is that they have to admit they're not part of a race that's superior to non-whites. Their racism is part of the problem.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:40 |
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Elephant Ambush posted:Yes I'm sure the racist murdering chud would have listened to Superman tell him that it's all Wall Street's fault. Actually maybe he would but his agreement would be couched in anti-Semitic language. Nothing I said was a defense of racists. Stop doing these weird drive-by posts where you accuse people of racism.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:43 |
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Elephant Ambush posted:Yes I'm sure the racist murdering chud would have listened to Superman tell him that it's all Wall Street's fault. Actually maybe he would but his agreement would be couched in anti-Semitic language. You're missing the point where an all-powerful ubermensch who can shoot death lasers from his eyes and punch a train into space chooses to maintain a status quo dystopia by permitting the literal cartoon villains of arms manufacturers, oil barons, financial criminals throwing millions of Americans out of their homes, and the corporatist media that lies and manipulates the impoverished to manufacture false conflict and misery for their own benefit. It's the problem of corporatist children's cartoons typically reserved for outlandish goons like Apocalypse, Doomsday, and an insane clown try to take on quote-en-quote "real" villains, where these illegal immigrants will go on to live in misery, forced to poo poo and piss themselves in a meatpacking factory while never making enough to escape poverty.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:50 |
Pener Kropoopkin posted:Nothing I said was a defense of racists. Stop doing these weird drive-by posts where you accuse people of racism. The username/post combo makes for a great visual though
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 21:53 |
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Taintrunner posted:You're missing the point where an all-powerful ubermensch who can shoot death lasers from his eyes and punch a train into space chooses to maintain a status quo dystopia by permitting the literal cartoon villains of arms manufacturers, oil barons, financial criminals throwing millions of Americans out of their homes, and the corporatist media that lies and manipulates the impoverished to manufacture false conflict and misery for their own benefit. It's the problem of corporatist children's cartoons typically reserved for outlandish goons like Apocalypse, Doomsday, and an insane clown try to take on quote-en-quote "real" villains, where these illegal immigrants will go on to live in misery, forced to poo poo and piss themselves in a meatpacking factory while never making enough to escape poverty. DC and Marvel, more broadly speaking, aren't even capable of making a systemic analysis of racism et cetera, because their business model relies on maintaining a broad reader base that they can't risk offending by taking aim at capitalism itself. More to the point, DC Comics is owned by Warner Brothers, which is a publicly traded corporation.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 22:18 |
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Shear Modulus posted:well yeah they're not going to suddenly be ok with voting for hillary in the general in 2020 the best you can hope for is that they get so disenfranchised they just sit out the next vote entirely
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 22:44 |
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Taintrunner posted:You're missing the point where an all-powerful ubermensch who can shoot death lasers from his eyes and punch a train into space chooses to maintain a status quo dystopia by permitting the literal cartoon villains of arms manufacturers, oil barons, financial criminals throwing millions of Americans out of their homes, and the corporatist media that lies and manipulates the impoverished to manufacture false conflict and misery for their own benefit. It's the problem of corporatist children's cartoons typically reserved for outlandish goons like Apocalypse, Doomsday, and an insane clown try to take on quote-en-quote "real" villains, where these illegal immigrants will go on to live in misery, forced to poo poo and piss themselves in a meatpacking factory while never making enough to escape poverty. Why does an ongoing serial not write itself out of a plot I howl
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 22:51 |
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 22:57 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Why does an ongoing serial not write itself out of a plot I howl don't they just reboot the whole thing every couple of years anyway
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 23:11 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:Let me check Breitbart on the news... Wasn't the original superman comics about fighting white supremacists
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 23:43 |
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Venom Snake posted:Wasn't the original superman comics about fighting white supremacists Yeah he fought the klan way back when.
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 23:48 |
Also it was a riff on the whole "superman"/"ubermensch" thing that was kind of a hot topic of conversation at the time, especially for a couple of Jewish kids
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# ? Sep 14, 2017 23:55 |
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Venom Snake posted:Wasn't the original superman comics about fighting white supremacists yeah. it was the first comic that showed superman kicking the gently caress out of hitler and bringing him to the league of nations for trial and this was like 1935/36/maybe 38.
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 00:00 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:the worst superman story is the one where he's a republican shithead to people and the reaction was so fuckin bad the writer left the book in the middle of the run Who was the writer?
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 00:09 |
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Is that the arc where he walked around the country to understand the common man and came across like a complete tool?
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 00:12 |
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Shear Modulus posted:don't they just reboot the whole thing every couple of years anyway no Captain_Maclaine posted:Yeah he fought the klan way back when. credited by the fbi as helping end klan recruitment, or at the very least severely curtail it Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. it was the first comic that showed superman kicking the gently caress out of hitler and bringing him to the league of nations for trial and this was like 1935/36/maybe 38. that was captain america ding dong, superman Slapped a Jap in the 40s tho, action comics #1 was 1938 and is not about hitler at all
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 00:36 |
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Who was the writer? it was j michael straczynski and Fantastic Flyer posted:Is that the arc where he walked around the country to understand the common man and came across like a complete tool? yes for those of you who are unaware blissfully it started out with superman renouncing his american citizenship. not clark kent, superman. the idea is that its 2000whatever and superman can't just stand for the American Way anymore, because the world is a global community. so far so good, even tho right wingers lost their loving MINDS then he says "well i've lost touch with the people of america what with being busy punching space hitlers and all, im gonna walk across the country and Reconnect With The Common Man". unnecessary, because supermans whole thing is that he is basically a regular dude who just also can fly and shoot lasers, but sure okay not a terrible premise then its superman just fuckin lasering drug dealers guns and being like STOP SELLING DRUGS IM FUCKIN SUPERMAN I'LL LASER YOUR rear end and like man that is BATMAN poo poo that aint how superman does things, there's also an infamous part where he runs into an alien and delivers like a thinly veiled anti-illegal immigration "i'm one of the good ones" speech and its just super gross people reacted so poorly jms stormed off in a huff and i wanna say chris robeson took it over? i know it ended with the reveal that actualyl superman is being a dick because he has space depression because of a crystal and he blows it up with the power of song which is fuckin incredible
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 00:40 |
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THIS IS ALL I HAVE THIS IS MY LIFE
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 00:42 |
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:THIS IS ALL I HAVE You do good work.
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 00:52 |
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l8r https://twitter.com/liz_farmer/status/908488111075856384
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 01:31 |
robert e leave heh
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 02:00 |
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there's a wiki article about it but basically the supermaj radio sserial had him infiltrate the klan and use their ridiculous d&d rank names and people realized they were the alt right of the 40s or whatever
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 02:12 |
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MEANWHILE, AT THE HALL OF JUSTICE, WENDY AND MARVIN RECEIVE THEIR KLAN MEMBERSHIP PAPERS AND ARE INDUCTED AS FIRST RANK HALF-OGRES
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 02:14 |
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So I'm assuming there isn't much street-brawling going on outside the Shapiro speech?
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# ? Sep 15, 2017 02:28 |
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cumshitter posted:there's a wiki article about it but basically the supermaj radio sserial had him infiltrate the klan and use their ridiculous d&d rank names and people realized they were the alt right of the 40s or whatever The backstory is it was written by a guy who had worked for the WPA doing writing poo poo parterend with Zora Neale Hurston, who had, with the help of a former member and a couple feds, infiltrated the Klan to collect their stories He takes the info he gets about their secret handshakes and poo poo to the feds, no dice So he decides to write a Superman story about it, and it becomes the 16 part radio serial The Clan of the Fiery Cross, complete with all the secret passwords and silly names and the whole thing, instantly destroying the Klans mystique Like imagine it's the late 40s and there's these masked racists terrorizing poo poo and they could be anyone and then you learn they have dumb names for everything and there's a Grand Scorpion or whatever and it's all just fuckin pathetic power fantasy poo poo and suddenly all that mystery is just GONE Fbi reported that Klan recruitment basically came to a screeching halt. I'm gonna copy a couple paragraphs from a decent comics alliance (rip) column about it too: quote:....In the weeks after “Clan of the Fiery Cross” aired (along with a campaign against intolerance that featured Bud Collyer, the voice of Superman), the Klan’s rapid expansion ground to a halt, and even long-time members resigned. So yeah anyone who talks poo poo about Superman can huff my stuff
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