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Sep 14, 2017 05:31
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Jizz Festival posted:Love watching IRL meltdowns like this. I wonder how many of the people close to her are begging her not to do this? Bend the Knee, Jizz Festival.
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Sep 14, 2017 05:33
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What the gently caress?
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Sep 14, 2017 06:00
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She wants him to run as her VP, doesn't she A LITTLE TOO LATE FOR THAT
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Sep 14, 2017 06:26
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EugeneJ posted:She wants him to run as her VP, doesn't she It wouldn't have worked anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heE143betU8
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Sep 14, 2017 08:04
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joepinetree posted:I just listened to PSA's interview with Clinton. I think a lot of people already talked about the most egregious points. But the thing that really bugged me was that she claimed that in 2008 she ran a campaign on the issues, unlike Bernie. And that she quit as soon as she lost. Unfortunately, none of the PSA guys pushed back (though you could see that Lovett was trying to). But yeah, the "try to get this photo of Obama in African garb - but call it Muslim garb - into as many news programs as possible" strategy was totally about the issues. As was the "I am not quitting because someone might decide to kill the first Black nomination winner" part. Listening it definitely felt like Lovett was getting push back on asking any follow up questions that might expose any contradictions in Clinton's narrative. What's his personal politics like anyway? I know he's pushed for Kamela Harris to actually commit to single payer when she was being evasive on how she wanted to improve Heath care during her interview on Pod Save (and admitted he thought the Chapo guys were much funny than himself).
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Sep 14, 2017 08:08
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Yadoppsi posted:Listening it definitely felt like Lovett was getting push back on asking any follow up questions that might expose any contradictions in Clinton's narrative. What's his personal politics like anyway? I know he's pushed for Kamela Harris to actually commit to single payer when she was being evasive on how she wanted to improve Heath care during her interview on Pod Save (and admitted he thought the Chapo guys were much funny than himself). He was the first to admit that Bernie would have won, IIRC.
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Sep 14, 2017 08:13
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 unsurprising that hillary is a hamilton freak
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Sep 14, 2017 08:22
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Lovett is the closest to a redeeming factor on PSA, but expecting him to be truly oppositional on there is high hopes.
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Sep 14, 2017 08:26
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Condiv posted:
she shoehorned a hamilton reference in my interview and it was everything i could do not to snort-laugh
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Sep 14, 2017 11:38
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I'm actually curious if they are going to do another favorability poll on Hillary (since people seem to love doing those in contrast to Trump) since this tour seems like it's designed to piss off everyone that's not a die hard supporter and that book signing quote up thread seems like she's not even being very generous to them either.
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Sep 14, 2017 12:39
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Radish posted:I'm actually curious if they are going to do another favorability poll on Hillary (since people seem to love doing those in contrast to Trump) since this tour seems like it's designed to piss off everyone that's not a die hard supporter and that book signing quote up thread seems like she's not even being very generous to them either. I'm hoping it's one final cash grab before she retires.
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Sep 14, 2017 13:10
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Neeksy posted:Lovett is the closest to a redeeming factor on PSA, but expecting him to be truly oppositional on there is high hopes. He’s much better on his own show, which is very good when people like Joy Reid are not on it. He is also very good on PSA because he keeps the other well-to-do frat bros from hawking too hard. I stopped listening to PSA mid-week update because it is too much thirdwayism from inside the beltway.
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Sep 14, 2017 13:50
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Isn’t this the market in the EU? Airlines here are ultra-competitive. Nationalized rail is great, I’m unsure about nationalized air. Dirk Pitt fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sep 14, 2017 13:59
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If it's good for rail, it's good for air. Nationalise all infrastructure.
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Sep 14, 2017 14:19
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I don't give a gently caress about being treated like cattle if I can fly across the country for 200 bucks. Deregulated airlines own
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Sep 14, 2017 14:39
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call to action posted:I don't give a gently caress about being treated like cattle if I can fly across the country for 200 bucks. Deregulated airlines own Sounds like the thing you need is a tornado  
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Sep 14, 2017 14:45
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Lovett had Neera Tanden and a never Trumper who ranted about Sanders on his show. He is not great either.
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Sep 14, 2017 14:54
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call to action posted:I don't give a gently caress about being treated like cattle if I can fly across the country for 200 bucks. Deregulated airlines own We did a bachelor party to Gdańsk. Plane tickets round trip were $25. I was very happy with that. The American market is almost impossible to compete in. Edit: when my wife and I fly home to Oklahoma at Christmas we use SAS which has a mix of government owners and private entities and it owns bones too. The worst part is switching to American or United.
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Sep 14, 2017 14:58
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Condiv posted:
It owns that Ezra Klein can't even use his lanyard to grift his way into Hamilton.
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Sep 14, 2017 15:56
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MooselanderII posted:Lovett had Neera Tanden and a never Trumper who ranted about Sanders on his show. He is not great either. He also had Tom Morello and Symone Sanders. I am not saying that he is great. He is better than the others, and you can clearly see that he is further left than the rest of the podcast, but knows that his audience and his TV writer friends would disown him if he went full on chapo mode. You could hear the discomfort in his audience when Morello started talking about democrats coddling corporations being responsible for this mess.
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Sep 14, 2017 16:59
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Yes lovette selling out is what makes him worse than the centrist technocrats be works with. Lol every time Vietor laments "the process"😭😭
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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:It owns that Ezra Klein can't even use his lanyard to grift his way into Hamilton. Maybe he's politely saying he doesn't want to see it?
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Lovett also had Sarah Silverman on and when he told her he was still a capitalist she told him it was okay and he could still be a rich rear end in a top hat, which I thought was funny. He's definitely the best of the PSA guys but Favreau is a full on Obama worshipper, including the centrism, and Vietor is the dude obsessed with norms nobody gives a poo poo about anymore, so it's an easy bar to clear.
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Sep 14, 2017 17:31
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Mr Hootington posted:Yes lovette selling out is what makes him worse than the centrist technocrats be works with. Lol every time Vietor laments "the process"😭😭 It's the opposite of selling out. He's been incrementally moving left. From Clinton staffer to west wing writer to Obama staffer to keeping it 1600/PSA to the left of PSA to Lovett or Leave it. Yes, he is still pretty centrist. But if he keeps going like this he will soon be a guest on Chapo, then Stockton to Malone, then full on the Dig.
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Sep 14, 2017 17:56
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Ringer doesn't have the gravitas that Grantland had, but seeing an article like this up there shows just how the world has left Abuela behind https://www.theringer.com/2017/9/14/16307594/hillary-clinton-what-happened-clintonism-sanders-trumpMarxalot posted:I'm hoping it's one final cash grab before she retires. If it wasn't designed to be one, it is now. You might be able to get one more DNC speech out of Bill but even he's lost his fastball there and it's best that the Clinton's find a deep, dark hole/cell to spend the rest of their days in.
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Sep 14, 2017 18:18
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Who gives a poo poo, gently caress anyone who's not full on for at least M4A
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Sep 14, 2017 18:22
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Any pundit that is against M4A from the right is literally worse than a Charlottesville Nazi in terms of actual lives destroyed or impacted
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Sep 14, 2017 18:25
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InnercityGriot posted:Lovett also had Sarah Silverman on and when he told her he was still a capitalist she told him it was okay and he could still be a rich rear end in a top hat, which I thought was funny. He's definitely the best of the PSA guys but Favreau is a full on Obama worshipper, including the centrism, and Vietor is the dude obsessed with norms nobody gives a poo poo about anymore, so it's an easy bar to clear. My personal favorite is when the PSA boys acknowledge the left's discontent and say "that's a conversation we can have, sure! But for right now..." A more specific great moment was when Glenn Greenwald went on Vietor's show and completely schooled him on the most basic facts of the Snowden leak, such as the fact that the press broke the documents to the public rather than Snowden himself.
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Sep 14, 2017 18:26
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I mean look at this, what a buncha loving morons https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/908373876970835968 DEMOCRATS HAVE NO MESSAGE "medicare for all" JUST A SLOGAN
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Sep 14, 2017 18:31
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Make Beyonce talk about medicare for all.
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Sep 14, 2017 18:35
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Nonsense posted:Make Beyonce talk about medicare for all. please do this. Nonsense posted:I mean look at this, what a buncha loving morons Yeah, NPR is basically crap these days.
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Sep 14, 2017 18:39
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Nonsense posted:DEMOCRATS HAVE NO MESSAGE All left-wing policy must be reduced to Xeno's Paradox-like pursuits, I guess. Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Yeah, NPR is basically crap these days. Yeah, I'm never giving them another cent.
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Sep 14, 2017 18:40
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yronic heroism posted:It's pretty much predicting doom and gloom for the party, nonsense posts about losing ground in the House next year, etc. If anything, events are showing the Democratic party as a whole is pretty responsive to its base. Not to be confused with loving naysayers who only moan rather than participate in any way other than maybe voting for Bernie (if they registered). While I disagree with the idea that the Democrats are necessarily electorally doomed in the short term (specifically 2018 and 2020), it is entirely reasonable to feel "doom and gloom" regarding the ability of the mainstream party prior to Sanders' recent influence* to actually fix the massive problem causing millions of Americans to suffer. Democrats might be able to occasionally make temporary gains on the backs of Republican misgovernance, but that won't actually lead to giving people the help they need. This is why it is important that people continue to actively push the Democrats to the left (as Bernie has been doing). *Even now it's just sort of ambiguous; it's good that people are feeling pressured to cosponsor/support the MfA bill, but it's likely it's largely due to the fact that it has no chance of passing in the near future. Getting their support on the record is still a good thing regardless, but I think it's too early to really claim we're "back on the right track." yronic heroism posted:I predicted Dems would start hopping on MFA fast like two months ago. Guess what happened. No one rushed to agree with this view because the mindset of this thread is basically accelerationist. lol, what? How is it "accelerationist"? There are maybe 2 or 3 dumb people who have actively expressed that they would prefer Trump over Hillary, but that is clearly a minority view. Pessimism regarding the intentions and actions of Democratic politicians is entirely reasonable, and it doesn't cause any harm unless people are deciding not to vote in swing states as a result. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Sep 14, 2017 18:48
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Nonsense posted:I mean look at this, what a buncha loving morons If your plan to pass single payer relies on fair and accurate news coverage...
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Nonsense posted:DEMOCRATS HAVE NO MESSAGE Their article says the plan is to eventually get everyone on an expanded Medicare. So "Medicare for all" seems completely fine?
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Fans posted:Their article says the plan is to eventually get everyone on an expanded Medicare. So "Medicare for all" seems completely fine? I think that was 
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