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The major take aways from the post-Charlottesville Alt-Right fallout are two fold. First and foremost, those in positions of leadership within the Alt-Right are not good organizers. To organize well means that you can physically help manifest groups of people and facilitate their doing of an activity. It means that you can bring different groups together towards that activity. It also means that you can reach out to your base of support, which for the Alt-Right, at least online, is large, and get them to come into the real world.

Clearly the Alt-Right failed to do any of this. This is why the Alt-Right time and time again falls back on either attacking ‘soft targets’ on the Left, basing all their activity on putting up lovely posters and stickers in an attempt to ‘troll,’ and moreover, trying to latch on to bigger protests and events organized by other people on the far-Right, from Act for America to Joey Gibson.

Furthermore, it should be noted just how new to ‘the movement’ those in leadership in the Alt-Right are. Eli Mosley barely just graduated from the Proud Boys to full on neo-Nazism, and already he is in control of organizing security and leading Identity Evropa. Jason Kessler, in his own podcast points out how he is ‘new to the Alt-Right,’ but already is in charge of an entire event like Unite the Right. Even people that have been around for several years, like Richard Spencer, haven’t actually been in all that long, and by and large, are generally the last people to step up to the plate and actually organize. Individuals, like Azzmador from The Daily Stormer or Jeff Schoep from the National Socialist Movement who are older and have been around for many years and actually have experience – by and large, were pushed to the margins of UtR or simply used for social capital or bringing in numbers.

But beyond the lack of ability to actually organize and harness real leadership skills, the Alt-Right based it’s entire strategy on planning that the State and its police would help them. For all their talk about about “ZOG” and “white genocide,” the entire Unite the Right event was structured on the pretense that police would “remove antifa” and keep both sides separated. When this reality came crashing down and police instead stood to the sidelines, the Alt-Right was in for a rude awakening. While this led to KKK leaders shooting at people, savage beatings, and also tragically the death of Heather Heyer – the Alt-Right still lost.

As we look back on the events in Charlottesville a month later, let’s keep all of this in mind. Unite the Right was a defeat for the Alt-Right across the board – on all fronts. But over all, these defeats were made even worse due to the fact that our movement is growing, learning, becoming stronger as we move forward, and theirs is falling apart.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Let me check Breitbart on the news...



2477 comments. Jesus

baw posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/908276308265795585

Montasque posted:

They are either stunned, rationalizing it, or not commenting.

LOL

Zikan posted:

lol

https://twitter.com/michaelarria/status/908343199386755072

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/908303464186482693

Data Graham posted:

I gotta say it's encouraging that, well

It would be pretty easy for comics and video games and movies to all lurch rightward in the modern age in pursuit of what seems like a ripe market in alt-righters and gamergaters and the like. Not to mention the prevailing political climate just as reflected by who's in power. But for the most part it seems like they're responding to the right's pressure by shoving back real hard.

More feminism! More sympathy for immigrants! More LGBT representation! it's like it's only picking up steam

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

lib dipshit superman heaps the burden of responsibility on the disenfranchised willfully ignorant homicidal racist xenophobe who literally tried to murder people, instead of assigning blame to the capitalist that exploits illegal labor

Data Graham posted:

I gotta say it's encouraging that, well

It would be pretty easy for comics and video games and movies to all lurch rightward in the modern age in pursuit of what seems like a ripe market in alt-righters and gamergaters and the like. Not to mention the prevailing political climate just as reflected by who's in power. But for the most part it seems like they're responding to the right's pressure by shoving back real hard.

More feminism! More sympathy for immigrants! More LGBT representation! it's like it's only picking up steam

SunAndSpring posted:

Alt-right people love to harp about lowered sales because of "forced diversity" but it seems like everything is selling less these days.

Elephant Ambush posted:

"lib dipshit" superman should've been punching CEOs in the dick while a racist committed mass murder of people who have it even worse than he does. good plan great plan comrade

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/908303464186482693

temple posted:

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

This is all a wildly drawn conclusion you just invented in your head.

Elephant Ambush posted:

Yes I'm sure the racist murdering chud would have listened to Superman tell him that it's all Wall Street's fault. Actually maybe he would but his agreement would be couched in anti-Semitic language.

Stop defending racists just because they're poor. They'll fight socialism and/or communism literally to the death because the alternative is that they have to admit they're not part of a race that's superior to non-whites.

Their racism is part of the problem.

Elephant Ambush posted:

Yes I'm sure the racist murdering chud would have listened to Superman tell him that it's all Wall Street's fault. Actually maybe he would but his agreement would be couched in anti-Semitic language.

Stop defending racists just because they're poor. They'll fight socialism and/or communism literally to the death because the alternative is that they have to admit they're not part of a race that's superior to non-whites.

Their racism is part of the problem.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Nothing I said was a defense of racists. Stop doing these weird drive-by posts where you accuse people of racism.

Taintrunner posted:

You're missing the point where an all-powerful ubermensch who can shoot death lasers from his eyes and punch a train into space chooses to maintain a status quo dystopia by permitting the literal cartoon villains of arms manufacturers, oil barons, financial criminals throwing millions of Americans out of their homes, and the corporatist media that lies and manipulates the impoverished to manufacture false conflict and misery for their own benefit. It's the problem of corporatist children's cartoons typically reserved for outlandish goons like Apocalypse, Doomsday, and an insane clown try to take on quote-en-quote "real" villains, where these illegal immigrants will go on to live in misery, forced to poo poo and piss themselves in a meatpacking factory while never making enough to escape poverty.

Shear Modulus posted:

well yeah they're not going to suddenly be ok with voting for hillary in the general in 2020

Taintrunner posted:

You're missing the point where an all-powerful ubermensch who can shoot death lasers from his eyes and punch a train into space chooses to maintain a status quo dystopia by permitting the literal cartoon villains of arms manufacturers, oil barons, financial criminals throwing millions of Americans out of their homes, and the corporatist media that lies and manipulates the impoverished to manufacture false conflict and misery for their own benefit. It's the problem of corporatist children's cartoons typically reserved for outlandish goons like Apocalypse, Doomsday, and an insane clown try to take on quote-en-quote "real" villains, where these illegal immigrants will go on to live in misery, forced to poo poo and piss themselves in a meatpacking factory while never making enough to escape poverty.

temple posted:

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

Why does an ongoing serial not write itself out of a plot I howl

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Let me check Breitbart on the news...



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Venom Snake posted:

Wasn't the original superman comics about fighting white supremacists

Venom Snake posted:

Wasn't the original superman comics about fighting white supremacists

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

the worst superman story is the one where he's a republican shithead to people and the reaction was so fuckin bad the writer left the book in the middle of the run

Shear Modulus posted:

don't they just reboot the whole thing every couple of years anyway

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Yeah he fought the klan way back when.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah. it was the first comic that showed superman kicking the gently caress out of hitler and bringing him to the league of nations for trial and this was like 1935/36/maybe 38.

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Who was the writer?

Fantastic Flyer posted:

Is that the arc where he walked around the country to understand the common man and came across like a complete tool?

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

THIS IS ALL I HAVE

THIS IS MY LIFE

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

l8r

https://twitter.com/liz_farmer/status/908488111075856384

cumshitter posted:

there's a wiki article about it but basically the supermaj radio sserial had him infiltrate the klan and use their ridiculous d&d rank names and people realized they were the alt right of the 40s or whatever

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....In the weeks after “Clan of the Fiery Cross” aired (along with a campaign against intolerance that featured Bud Collyer, the voice of Superman), the Klan’s rapid expansion ground to a halt, and even long-time members resigned.

One of them, as mentioned on the This American Life episode about Kennedy, even talked about how he came home from work one day to find that his son had found his Klan hood and was wearing it in the yard, playing the bad guy to the neighbor kid’s Superman, and that’s when he realized he had to get out. How do you keep doing something once you realize your own kid thinks you’re a supervillain who needs to get punched out by the good guys?

Even more damning was the show’s climax, where the Clan of the Fiery Cross was revealed to be, at its heart, little more than a bigoted moneymaking scheme that duped a bunch of “the little nobodies who want to believe some other race is inferior so they can feel superior, the jerks who go for that 100% American rot” into paying dues and buying expensive bedsheets to wear, with the leadership more interested in profiting from the base than in any actual beliefs their followers held.