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raditts posted:When people say "Robotech" do they mean just Macross, or the weird incomprehensible mashup of three completely different but similar looking shows that comprised the Robotech series in the US? In regards to the movie, who knows? Probably just Macross, but if it becomes a huge franchise somehow i could seem them bringing in bits from the other animes for sequels.
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The Robotech brand is owned by Harmony Gold, and they've been involved with numerous lawsuits over how much of Macross they actually own, as well as numerous other lawsuits involving tax fraud, embezzlement and false accounting. I doubt they have the rights to produce anything involving the 80s anime. It'd almost certainly be something wholly original. Assuming it's not actually a scam. Given the company's history, that's my personal guess.
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Sep 14, 2017 04:25
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You're seeing this push because they'll lose the rights in like four years. Nothing is going to come out of it, though. I remember when Tobey Maguire was attached to the project like fifteen years ago.
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Sep 14, 2017 04:33
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raditts posted:When people say "Robotech" do they mean just Macross, or the weird incomprehensible mashup of three completely different but similar looking shows that comprised the Robotech series in the US? It's funny you say this, but all the original animated Robotech like Sentinels and Shadow Chronicles all seem to be just extension of the Mospeda segment. Like there's no reintroduction or updates of Macross or Southern Cross stuff, it's all just Mospeda mecha. Not that I don't like Mospeda, it's probably my favorite segment because I have a hard-on for that '80s post-apocalypse mecha stuff like Grey: Digital Target, VOTOMS, Appleseed, Maschinen Krieger Zbv3000, and Dragon's Heaven. Macross is always a given, but I've fallen in love with the beautiful failure that's Southern Cross and it's very '80s "Pyrrhic victory" ending would rather see a remake of than another Macross sequel.
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Sep 14, 2017 05:22
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Schwarzwald posted:The Robotech brand is owned by Harmony Gold, and they've been involved with numerous lawsuits over how much of Macross they actually own, as well as numerous other lawsuits involving tax fraud, embezzlement and false accounting. Does Harmony Gold actually do anything other than sue people over giant robot rights? They've been a royal pain for Macross, Battletech/Mechwarrior, and probably several other things for decades now.
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Sep 14, 2017 05:59
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Inescapable Duck posted:Does Harmony Gold actually do anything other than sue people over giant robot rights? They've been a royal pain for Macross, Battletech/Mechwarrior, and probably several other things for decades now. Nope. They realized at some point that they could make more money suing people than actually doing anything.
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Sep 14, 2017 06:14
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Inescapable Duck posted:Does Harmony Gold actually do anything other than sue people over giant robot rights? They've been a royal pain for Macross, Battletech/Mechwarrior, and probably several other things for decades now. You better believe they don't. Wikipedia posted:Late 1980s to early 2000s[edit source]
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Sep 14, 2017 06:15
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BexGu posted:Honestly without Paul Walker to balance out Vin Diesel anymore it's kind of time for old crew to move on and bring in the Hobbs/Shaw Fast and Furious. A movie where The Rock and Statham snipe and snark at each other while saving the world? Yes please  Also gently caress you Harmony Gold. 
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Sep 14, 2017 13:56
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Cooked Auto posted:A movie where The Rock and Statham snipe and snark at each other while saving the world? Never gonna happen because Vin Diesel is never gonna give up on the franchise that made him a star and kept him famous. Studio will probably have to make a Quick and Frenzied movie franchise for The Rock and Statham.
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Sep 14, 2017 14:42
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The Slow & The Mildly Annoyed: a spin-of starring Eastwood's character.
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Sep 14, 2017 14:55
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BexGu posted:Never gonna happen because Vin Diesel is never gonna give up on the franchise that made him a star and kept him famous. Studio will probably have to make a Quick and Frenzied movie franchise for The Rock and Statham. Does he actually have any control over the rights? I know he had massive creative control over the later movies, but I assumed that was something the studio let him have so he would be in the movies, I don't think he can do anything about a movie that he isn't in.
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Sep 14, 2017 17:12
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MonsieurChoc posted:I love the style of 80s anime sci-fi, and there's just no way Hollywood can do it justice. If it ever gets out of development hell, Robotech is gonna be terrible. if would be deeply deeply sick to see the dope macross missile trails in a movie; i'm always surprised we don't see that visual language in more war stuff, it's visceral as hell
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Sep 14, 2017 19:01
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BexGu posted:Never gonna happen because Vin Diesel is never gonna give up on the franchise that made him a star and kept him famous. Studio will probably have to make a Quick and Frenzied movie franchise for The Rock and Statham. They should bring back Spy Hunter.
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Sep 14, 2017 19:13
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Skwirl posted:Does he actually have any control over the rights? I know he had massive creative control over the later movies, but I assumed that was something the studio let him have so he would be in the movies, I don't think he can do anything about a movie that he isn't in. You know I tired looking it up and not I'm sure. Your right that the studio game Vin massive creative control for the later movies but he only got the rights to the Riddick movies for this cameo in Fast and Furious 3. I can't imagine that kind of stink Vin would raise if a studio tried to do a F&F movie without him through. (Even if he's characters arc is completely done).
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Sep 14, 2017 19:38
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BexGu posted:You know I tired looking it up and not I'm sure. Your right that the studio game Vin massive creative control for the later movies but he only got the rights to the Riddick movies for this cameo in Fast and Furious 3. I can't imagine that kind of stink Vin would raise if a studio tried to do a F&F movie without him through. (Even if he's characters arc is completely done). Yeah, I seriously doubt he has any legal control of the IP, since he didn't have any creative input in probably the first 4 films. It's like how JJ Abrams had tons of input and basically designed the overall arc of the new Star Wars movies, but if Disney felt like it they could tell him gently caress off and there'd be nothing he could do. If the new movie is a buddy action film about The Rock and Jason Statham, I don't think Vin Diesel throwing a poo poo fit will hurt the box-office much.
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Sep 14, 2017 19:47
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People generally like the Rock more anyway. If he throws a hissy fit he'll be the only one looking bad. The studio kind of has all the cards here.
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Sep 14, 2017 20:27
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Yeah, we probably had more sway before he tried to do his own F&F with xXx and it bombed.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:10
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He apparently got a Rock/Statham post-credit sequence axed from F8, so he still has some pull. I can't imagine it reaches far enough to stop the studio from making a multi-million dollar spinoff though.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:14
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I'm honestly a little annoyed that Statham's crimes got completely disappeared after a short "bonding scene". It took Han's death and have it the weight of "That guy stole my car, what a cad!" It's a ridiculous series but that's too much and bad planning on top of that. At least have him come back and say he faked his death or something so Statham isn't an actual murderer.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:22
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We never actually saw him kill Han anyway. Maybe he didn't!
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Sep 14, 2017 22:26
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I would watch a Han solo movie.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:29
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The series still needs to time travel and go to space before it's really complete and Tokyo Drift exists in some weird time anomaly as established in F7, so maybe in F9 they can time travel to save Han before he blows up.
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Sep 14, 2017 22:48
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GrandpaPants posted:I would watch a Han Seoul-O movie. Literally his name.
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Sep 14, 2017 23:33
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raditts posted:The series still needs to time travel and go to space before it's really complete and Tokyo Drift exists in some weird time anomaly as established in F7, so maybe in F9 they can time travel to save Han before he blows up. lol Furiouser and Furiouser: Racing Time The Rock speeds through a glowing blue portal to leap out of his car and tackle Statham just as he is about to ambush Han Rock powers through another portal, Statham leaning right out of the passenger window to catch Gal Gadot etc
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Sep 14, 2017 23:38
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NoneMoreNegative posted:lol This would be, unironically, an almost perfect team up, where The Rock and Statham bluster at each other, and the other two roll their eyes constantly. And it would only require the, like, third dumbest thing in the series.
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raditts posted:The series still needs to time travel and go to space before it's really complete and Tokyo Drift exists in some weird time anomaly as established in F7, so maybe in F9 they can time travel to save Han before he blows up. Just make Overdrift canon
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Sep 15, 2017 00:27
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They could just add clones and it wouldn't be that out of place for the series. A cloned Han leads a group of clones of the main F&F Family. It doesn't seem THAT silly for the series overall.
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Sep 15, 2017 01:10
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Wait, why doesn't Gibson want The Rock to do a spin-off? Is it like an "out of respect for the series" kind of thing? I can't imagine a spin-off being successful as anything but a validation of the series.
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Sep 15, 2017 01:54
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Just make Overdrift canon What now?
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John Wick Chapter 3 is set for release on May 17, 2019.raditts posted:What now? Here it is IN THE SCALES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2IWxqvsSY8 The MSJ fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Sep 15, 2017 |
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Sep 15, 2017 03:14
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Shrimp or Shrimps posted:Wait, why doesn't Gibson want The Rock to do a spin-off? Is it like an "out of respect for the series" kind of thing?
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Sep 15, 2017 03:40
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Just have Vin Diesel come back as his character from The Wheelman and no one acknowledges the change other than calling him by that name instead.
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Sep 15, 2017 03:51
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The guy who made Room 237 is doing a documentary about Jayne Mansfield and Anton LaVey.
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Sep 15, 2017 04:28
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Not unexpected, but great to have it official. I liked John Wick, but Chapter 2 was just such a fun movie. Great visual style and I admire its willingness to just fully embrace this bizarre secret society of ritualistic assassins full on.
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Sep 15, 2017 04:37
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I wish they had explained it a little less.
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Sep 15, 2017 04:40
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Yeah, John Wick is one of those cases where it's better to keep the world a bit mysterious because the concept is so ridiculous that it falls apart if too much is explained. And JW2 saw the line and took a flying leap over it. There are apparently far more people in New York who are assassins than not.
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Sep 15, 2017 07:16
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raditts posted:Yeah, John Wick is one of those cases where it's better to keep the world a bit mysterious because the concept is so ridiculous that it falls apart if too much is explained. And JW2 saw the line and took a flying leap over it.
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Sep 15, 2017 07:17
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the thing about john wick 2 is you still basically know nothing about that world by the end, just that new york is a dangerous place for an assassin that breaks the rules.
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Sep 15, 2017 07:55
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JW2 doesn't explicitly say this, but I get the feeling that the assassination poo poo is incredibly common place in it, which is really funny and I love.
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basic hitler posted:the thing about john wick 2 is you still basically know nothing about that world by the end, just that new york is a dangerous place for an assassin that breaks the rules. You know that you really don't care anymore as there's no emotional weight and there's never a meaningful opponent to wick as he carves through infinite dudes running into frame with no regard for their own life
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