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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




The Slovak National Security Office (NBU) has identified ten malicious Python libraries uploaded on PyPI — Python Package Index — the official third-party software repository for the Python programming language.

NBU experts say attackers used a technique known as typosquatting to upload Python libraries with names similar to legitimate packages — e.g.: "urlib" instead of "urllib."

The PyPI repository does not perform any types of security checks or audits when developers upload new libraries to its index, so attackers had no difficulty in uploading the modules online.

Developers who mistyped the package name loaded the malicious libraries in their software's setup scripts.

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Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



cinci zoo sniper posted:

The Slovak National Security Office (NBU) has identified ten malicious Python libraries uploaded on PyPI — Python Package Index — the official third-party software repository for the Python programming language.

NBU experts say attackers used a technique known as typosquatting to upload Python libraries with names similar to legitimate packages — e.g.: "urlib" instead of "urllib."

The PyPI repository does not perform any types of security checks or audits when developers upload new libraries to its index, so attackers had no difficulty in uploading the modules online.

Developers who mistyped the package name loaded the malicious libraries in their software's setup scripts.
not surprised there was a public outcry at this being rediscovered a month ago

nevermind it's been actively researched for a while now: http://incolumitas.com/2016/06/08/typosquatting-package-managers/

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




i mostly surprised with slovak national security office of all things, and pypi specifically

Max Facetime
Apr 18, 2009

hackbunny posted:

communicating with other people is something people do you gigantic boob

communication == authenticity and integrity

communication <> encryption

encryption is something that a terrorist wants in their communications and it's a travesty that there is no way to opt out of encryption on today's WWW

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Max Facetime posted:

communication == authenticity and integrity

communication <> encryption

encryption is something that a terrorist wants in their communications and it's a travesty that there is no way to opt out of encryption on today's WWW

no trolling

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Max Facetime posted:

communication == authenticity and integrity

communication <> encryption

encryption is something that a terrorist wants in their communications and it's a travesty that there is no way to opt out of encryption on today's WWW

lol

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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this is a really lovely gimmick

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






You were getting the punters riled up pretty well but you jumped the shark with that one bud.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

Phone posted:

you're a paranoid moron if you think that those devices aren't always recording and sending data back home

i mean yeah you are since this is simple enough to check for by watching network traffic so its known to not be the case

home assistants have enough privacy and security concerns without having to invent poo poo, doing so just undermines your arguments

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Max Facetime posted:

communication == authenticity and integrity

communication <> encryption

encryption is something that a terrorist wants in their communications and it's a travesty that there is no way to opt out of encryption on today's WWW
lol

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Max Facetime posted:

communication == authenticity and integrity

communication <> encryption

encryption is something that a terrorist wants in their communications and it's a travesty that there is no way to opt out of encryption on today's WWW

notax alt spotted (or vice versa they're both really low effort)

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Did anyone post this part of the blueborne secfuck yet?

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
http://www.fontgrill.com/fonts/free/font13/font13.php

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

everyone at work is really excited about the new iphone's facial recognition unlock so i guess that answers the question of "who the hell wants this dumb poo poo"

when i pointed out that you'd be better off using a pin because it can't be tricked and you can't be compelled to give it up by the feds all i got was "well if you don't do anything bad you'd never be in a situation where that's a problem now would you :colbert:"

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



countdown till CCC manages to break it...

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

ate all the Oreos posted:

everyone at work is really excited about the new iphone's facial recognition unlock so i guess that answers the question of "who the hell wants this dumb poo poo"

when i pointed out that you'd be better off using a pin because it can't be tricked and you can't be compelled to give it up by the feds all i got was "well if you don't do anything bad you'd never be in a situation where that's a problem now would you :colbert:"

whenever somebody says this i ask them for their phone so that i can read their emails and texts because, what, it's not like they have anything to hide, right?

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

duTrieux. posted:

whenever somebody says this i ask them for their phone so that i can read their emails and texts because, what, it's not like they have anything to hide, right?

i used to do something similar to this except once someone actually just went fine and gave me some personal deets and the first thing i found out was that their dad was in prison for embezzlement and their life was falling apart and i felt like a total dickhead after that :smith:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

mrmcd posted:

Did anyone post this part of the blueborne secfuck yet?



I'm not surprised.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat

ate all the Oreos posted:

everyone at work is really excited about the new iphone's facial recognition unlock so i guess that answers the question of "who the hell wants this dumb poo poo"

when i pointed out that you'd be better off using a pin because it can't be tricked and you can't be compelled to give it up by the feds all i got was "well if you don't do anything bad you'd never be in a situation where that's a problem now would you :colbert:"

ios 11 has some feature where if you hit power 5 times it locks fingerprint and facial recognition stuff until the pin is entered.

for whatever that's worth

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
i'm just baffled by the whole decision as it's designed to like work when you're quite a few feet away by design. and probably can't handle something like "the user looks angry so we know we shouldn't unlock"

it's almost like it's designed so a hostile actor has plenty of ability to get you to unlock the phone unwillingly

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

fishmech posted:

i'm just baffled by the whole decision as it's designed to like work when you're quite a few feet away by design. and probably can't handle something like "the user looks angry so we know we shouldn't unlock"

it's almost like it's designed so a hostile actor has plenty of ability to get you to unlock the phone unwillingly

i'd think that would be explicitly the point b/c they'd rather not have a fight with the feds about not being able to backdoor all their phones again

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
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the way they've described faceid makes it seem like it's slightly better than touchid, but we'll all find out in a few months. plus the phone costs one thousand loving us dollars, if biometrics wasn't enough of an incentive to not get it

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

fishmech posted:

i'm just baffled by the whole decision as it's designed to like work when you're quite a few feet away by design. and probably can't handle something like "the user looks angry so we know we shouldn't unlock"

it's almost like it's designed so a hostile actor has plenty of ability to get you to unlock the phone unwillingly

supposedly it doesn't work if your eyes are closed

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

vOv posted:

supposedly it doesn't work if your eyes are closed

What if your eye lids have been removed?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Avenging_Mikon posted:

What if your eye lids have been removed?

Or they use those eye-spreader things to unlock your phone before they bombard you with the Faces of Death series.

Bunni-kat
May 25, 2010

Service Desk B-b-bunny...
How can-ca-caaaaan I
help-p-p-p you?

Proteus Jones posted:

Or they use those eye-spreader things to unlock your phone before they bombard you with the Faces of Death series.

That doesn't seem very realistic, Proteus.

burning swine
May 26, 2004




hell yes

my strong encryption font solution

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Proteus Jones posted:

Or they use those eye-spreader things to unlock your phone before they bombard you with the Faces of Death series.

depending on the tolerances, reaching over the top of the head and pulling the eyelids open might work

pretty sure the forehead isn't taken into account as a data point, and i'd assume there's a pretty wide margin for eyebrows because of facial expression/makeup/whatever

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

Or at that point they have threaten you for your PIN with violence. Its not designed for you to withstand torture at a black site its just meant to provide some level of security and convenience.

If you think you're going to be roaming through a favela and will be held up for your phone with sensitive data then don't bring it with you.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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all of this is arbitrary for now anyways, we'll see how robust it is when it's out in the wild

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

My Winpho 950XL had some sort of iris camera thing for recognition for Windows hello. What Ill say is it failed to operate often enough that whatever technology that used was far from perfect.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Partycat posted:

Or at that point they have threaten you for your PIN with violence. Its not designed for you to withstand torture at a black site its just meant to provide some level of security and convenience.

If you think you're going to be roaming through a favela and will be held up for your phone with sensitive data then don't bring it with you.

honestly my plan for all future international travel is to just take my work phone and leave my personal phone at home.


fine, keep my phone, i don't give a poo poo. i'll just get another one for 99c.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






CCC presentation on hacking face unlock preview:

Babies Getting Rabies
Apr 21, 2007

Sugartime Jones

cheese-cube posted:

countdown till CCC manages to break it...

is it even necessary though? i see so many people that have their phone in front of them on a table in public. just swipe the phone, point it at their face and you're done. if the demos were indicative of the system's performance, it's pretty fast and works over enough of a distance that you could easily be on the other side of a table.

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

honestly my plan for all future international travel is to just take my work phone and leave my personal phone at home.


fine, keep my phone, i don't give a poo poo. i'll just get another one for 99c.

failure to provide sensitive data to border control is grounds for refused entry, foreigner

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Partycat posted:

Or at that point they have threaten you for your PIN with violence. Its not designed for you to withstand torture at a black site its just meant to provide some level of security and convenience.

If you think you're going to be roaming through a favela and will be held up for your phone with sensitive data then don't bring it with you.

as i mentioned before a PIN is compelled speech while "look at your phone" would probably fall under the same rules as fingerprints and be physical evidence or whatever, so at the very least this wouldn't work if we assume the rule of law still exists (which is a pretty big assumption lol)

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

ate all the Oreos posted:

as i mentioned before a PIN is compelled speech while "look at your phone" would probably fall under the same rules as fingerprints and be physical evidence or whatever, so at the very least this wouldn't work if we assume the rule of law still exists (which is a pretty big assumption lol)

or you know, "look at me" is a valid order and the cop can just hold the phone up at the same time.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Not a lawyer, so just pure speculation: If you get arrested and had previously written "the code is 1-2-3-4" on your arm, and the cop saw that and unlocked the phone with all the evidence, I seriously doubt any court is going to consider that a violation of your rights. Facial unlock seems more or less like writing the pin code of your face in magic iPhone-only readable ink. I guess what I'm saying is if you're the kind of person who likes to commit crimes or doesn't trust police, don't use biometric unlock features. :shrug:

I don't mean that in a "well, if you have nothing to hide..." kinda way. Rather it's a choice to get more convenient/faster unlocking, in exchange for only defending against random thefts and snoops, and not advesaries targeting you specifically who may or may not enjoy a bit of the ultraviolence.

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

i bought a new iphone a month back and decided to forego using my fingerprint as an unlock method. fortunately you can still use touch id for apps even if you disable it on the lock screen

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Kuvo
Oct 27, 2008

Blame it on the misfortune of your bark!
Fun Shoe

duTrieux. posted:

i bought a new iphone a month back and decided to forego using my fingerprint as an unlock method. fortunately you can still use touch id for apps even if you disable it on the lock screen

I really wish Android would do this. There's no way (I've found anyway) for you turn on pixel touch but disable it for unlocking the phone.

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