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It's true. Missouri likes to tout that it is the sole FBS school in a state with no competition but the competition is other schools coming in to pick our talent. We simply don't produce enough high-star talent to fill our football team with in-state recruits; the level of play just isn't in our school system to do it year in and year out. One thing I skipped over in reading last week is that apparently the players went to Odom and our AD last week and that's a large reason why our DC Demontie Cross got fired on week 2. That's pretty damning when it was followed up by that game effort from our players and coaches. It is very easy to build a narrative that from the 2015 protests to now our coaches are letting players run the program. That's probably what will happen as this thing goes off the rails for the next few weeks until November.
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Hed posted:It's true. Missouri likes to tout that it is the sole FBS school in a state with no competition. Do they? Because that's not true at all, even the way I think they mean in. There are three schools without any in state FBS competition in just the Big Ten West.
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Duckaerobics posted:Ugh I live in Alabama and I hear racists talking all the time about how Missouri ruined their school and are shutting down because they let the blacks take over. Hopefully they get things worked out or fox news moves on to something else so they shut up about it.  "For good football turn around and leave UM campus immediately!"
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MourningView posted:Do they? Because that's not true at all, even the way I think they mean in. There are three schools without any in state FBS competition in just the Big Ten West I meant to add in our conference. It was a common proxy for a consolidated fan base when conference realignment came up.
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Troy Queef posted:yeah, athletics is doing well. the university however is really hurting (cutting professors, closing dorms) because a lot of rural/suburban students who usually went to MU are going to Southwest Missouri State instead, and out-of-staters are still thinking the university is run by those people and thus giving them a pass Why would you pass up a national research university to go to the middle of nowhere? Are they just really into farming?
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Kim Jong Il posted:Why would you pass up a national research university to go to the middle of nowhere? Are they just really into farming? Cost (among other reasons). e: to expand on that. A smaller, D-II, D-III public school costs a significant fraction of the flagship. You may not have the name recognition, but when can pay a whole year's worth of tuition for what it costs for a single semester at the flagship and get a comparable education, yeah, people will take the cheaper option, especially now that student loans are very much a thing. e2: UW-Madison costs 25k for tuition and on campus living a year. UW-Whitewater is 14k. e3: that's if you're a Wisconsin resident, for what it's worth. iospace fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Sep 17, 2017 |
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Kim Jong Il posted:Why would you pass up a national research university to go to the middle of nowhere? Are they just really into farming? If you're just going for undergrad this doesn't really matter that much
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Kim Jong Il posted:Why would you pass up a national research university to go to the middle of nowhere? Are they just really into farming? Because it's cheaper
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iospace posted:Cost (among other reasons).
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Really? I don't know if things changed but Northern Arizona, Arizona, and ASU all had identical tuition when I went. Definitely not universal across states. Yeah, the "lower" UW schools are all much cheaper. UW-Milwaukee, which is D-I, is probably the closest to UW-Madison in cost, but that's also the only other public research school here.
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KKKLIP ART posted:It really seems like Mizzou is the type of place where you need someone who can find the diamond in the rough players and develop them well, like your last coach did. Unless they start getting crazy good, they won't compete on getting ever 4- and 5- star recruit like an Alabama will, but if they can get enough 3 star players to develop to a high ceiling, they will be competitive. I don't really know who Mizzou could go after to make that happen. Right now they need a guy like Bobby Petrino that can spin poo poo into gold for a few years than upgrade once he eventually leaves.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So which team hires Jeff Brohm this offseason You keep your loving filthy paws off our shiny diamond.
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UTEP has fired Offensive Coordinator Brent Pease
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DJExile posted:UTEP has fired Offensive Coordinator Brent Pease That is quite the fall his career took
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DJExile posted:UTEP has fired Offensive Coordinator Brent Pease He put up Doug Nussmeier-caliber numbers at Florida. Without Florida's talent, he was even worse.
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pillsburysoldier posted:That is quite the fall his career took He'll go back to the Petersen-Harsin family like he always does and be fine. My sister was friends with his daughter in elementary school when he was at Baylor under Guy Morris; it's been kind of interesting following his career all this time.
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Peterson fired him as Washington's WR coach a couple of years back because his receivers had butterfingers.
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The football version of the Peter Principle. Its crazy how many poo poo tier coaches never get forced out of the sport.
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an adult beverage posted:The football version of the Peter Principle. Its crazy how many poo poo tier coaches never get forced out of the sport. It seems like the opposite of the Peter Principle also often applies- with guys like Pease, or more notably Lane Kiffin- where they eventually fall back to their level of competence.
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General Dog posted:It seems like the opposite of the Peter Principle also often applies- with guys like Pease, or more notably Lane Kiffin- where they eventually fall back to their level of competence. Except I'm not sure Pease has ever been competent
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Except I'm not sure Pease has ever been competent Petersen seemed to like him since he kept moving up the ladder at Boise for six years (eventually to OC), and then brought him to Washington, but maybe the good will has run out.
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God I forgot Brent Pease existed and I wish I'd never remembered. What a loving useless coach he was at UF.
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He did okay with Driskel until he (Driskel) got hurt and summarily ran out of Gainesville like every other QB since Timmy.
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Big Piece O poo poo posted:He did okay with Driskel until he (Driskel) got hurt and summarily ran out of Gainesville like every other QB since Timmy. I reckon he did ok initially keeping Driskel from imploding in hilarious fashion like he would later, but the offense was a loving rattle-trap Goldberg machine of misdirection runs and screens held together with spit and cum.
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What type of head coach is Mizzou going to bring in next season do you think? Odom was Mack Rhoade's parting gift to Mizzou and Jim Sterk hired Rocky Long at SDSU so maybe he can find another good coach for the Tigers?
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There a good mid major coaches with recruiting ties to that general geographic region they can get. Frank Wilson at UTSA, Neal Brown at Troy, Mike Norvell at a Memphis, Blake Anderson at Ark St., etc.
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Sep 19, 2017 19:30
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Yeah Mike Norvell likely isn't going to be at Memphis for very long.
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Possibility Mullen jumps to Tennessee/A&M? I can't see any other huge jobs being open, maybe if he falls apart at the end of the year and his price comes down some UCLA would be in the mix.
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MourningView posted:There a good mid major coaches with recruiting ties to that general geographic region they can get. Frank Wilson at UTSA, Neal Brown at Troy, Mike Norvell at a Memphis, Blake Anderson at Ark St., etc. Blake Anderson is a good point, I liked listening to him when we played Ark St. also we could keep our OL coach (who coached for him)
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C. Everett Koop posted:Possibility Mullen jumps to Tennessee/A&M? I can't see any other huge jobs being open, maybe if he falls apart at the end of the year and his price comes down some UCLA would be in the mix. As good as he is, I have a hard time seeing anyone else in the SEC shelling out the $7-8 million a year it would take to pry him away from Miss St.
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DJExile posted:Yeah Mike Norvell likely isn't going to be at Memphis for very long. Are you thinking hired as head coach or coordinator? Curious because couldn't it be argued his success is with Fuentes' players?
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Dango Bango posted:Are you thinking hired as head coach or coordinator? Curious because couldn't it be argued his success is with Fuentes' players? He's been good everywhere he's coached though
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Dango Bango posted:Are you thinking hired as head coach or coordinator? Curious because couldn't it be argued his success is with Fuentes' players? Why would he take a step down to coordinator? A lot of the best players from the Fuente years graduated at the same time Fuente left, very few people expected them to continue to be as good as they have been. He was also a good assistant and coordinator before he got to Memphis; he should get a P5 head job really soon.
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I give Norvell maybe one more year for lack of resume-padding NY6 bowl win, but if Arizona State wants him back at all they're going to have to do it this year.
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Arizona State was trending down lately but they really cratered when Norvell left. He's a fantastic offensive mind.
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Real Name Grover posted:The Shutdown Fullcast guys posited that Jeff Fisher will be Odom's successor Delete this post.
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Graphical guide for SEC coaching vacancies
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General Dog posted:Graphical guide for SEC coaching vacancies It's....it's beautiful.
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General Dog posted:Graphical guide for SEC coaching vacancies In the end you just hire Ed Orgeron because he's already moved into the head coach office and had the nameplate changed and nobody wants to deal with the hassle of kicking him out.
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