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I've had a stainless steel since the original launch and have worn it almost every day, so I think I feel comfortable upgrading to a new watch, but I want to get the white ceramic edition. The series 2s seem to go for <$800 used, so like $450 savings off new for the series 3. I'm never more than a few feet from my phone so I'm not sure the LTE radio matters that much. Is the S0 -> S2 upgrade good enough to get at least another 2 years out of it?
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Jealous Cow posted:I'm never more than a few feet from my phone so I'm not sure the LTE radio matters that much. Is the S0 -> S2 upgrade good enough to get at least another 2 years out of it? I think it's only worth if you want to go places without your phone. Like to the beach, running, water sports, other outdoor stuff, just want to disconnect or maybe you work in a place where watches are ok but cell phones aren't. I'm getting one to try disconnect while I'm out doing stuff and not be such an iPhone zombie. Basically I'm looking forward to it allowing me to stay in contact with people and be able to use maps and call an Uber without being tempted to check Facebook every 5 minutes.
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Sep 17, 2017 20:44
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Wow so you scratched through the black? With the way I have scratched my watches I wonder if I will do the same. Or I just need to get smart and take off my watch when doing things that can scratch it?
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Sep 17, 2017 20:49
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Jealous Cow posted:I've had a stainless steel since the original launch and have worn it almost every day, so I think I feel comfortable upgrading to a new watch, but I want to get the white ceramic edition. The series 2s seem to go for <$800 used, so like $450 savings off new for the series 3. Considering they're keeping the S1 around for at least another generation, I imagine you can get two years out of an S2.
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Thanks goons. Maybe I'll wait and see how WatchOS 4 is on my S0. I currently don't hit 10% until around bedtime anyway so I'm good on battery.
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Think it's worth getting the Apple car on the s3 stainless? I plan on keeping it at least 3 years and my S0 sport has a small crack in the corner. I'm always running around an industrial environment and smacking it around a lot. I'm assuming I'll probably be ok since the SS is sapphire.
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One thing to keep in mind is that the Series 3 represents a pretty big performance jump over the Series 1/2 (70% improvement claimed), which itself represented a huge performance jump over the S0. Apple didn’t put a number on the improvement between the first chip and the second, but it was pretty huge. This means the performance delta between the S0 and the S3 should be enormous, like 300% plus huge. I know the day to day tasks on my Series 2, like checking alerts, dictating with Siri, checking the forecast with dark sky, etc are much quicker getting in and getting out. With the watch achieving a lot more independence on the LTE model I can see that extra processing power coming into play as applications start being developed to use it. To me, if you are putting good money (over $500) on a SS or Ceramic, get the S3 even if you don’t plan on using the LTE.
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Soon to be first-time Apple Watch owner here (aluminum S3 with LTE). I really only ordered it to be able to stay in touch with my family while running. Interested to hear what features people think are useful and well-implemented in the UI that I can look forward to and which ones I shouldn't waste my time with. I'm hoping I use it a lot for my actual telephonic needs and get out of the habit of constantly checking my phone / wasting time browsing stupid poo poo.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Sounds like an issue, the GPS on mine is really accurate. Yeah, that's what I figured. Difficult to determine where the fault is; sounds like a call to Apple is in order. Violator posted:Do you mean the GPS isn't reporting accurately (i.e., the Workout app doesn't show you the correct path you took on the map) or that the Health app is reporting your workout statistics (i.e., how long you worked out) correctly? Both; the map view doesn't show anything close to the route I took. The overall reporting is waaay off as well.  Dick Nipples posted:Time to visit the fruit stand. Crap. That's what I figured. The closest one to me is 172mi away.
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[quote="“Smashing Link”" post="“476495230”"] Soon to be first-time Apple Watch owner here (aluminum S3 with LTE). I really only ordered it to be able to stay in touch with my family while running. Interested to hear what features people think are useful and well-implemented in the UI that I can look forward to and which ones I shouldn’t waste my time with. I’m hoping I use it a lot for my actual telephonic needs and get out of the habit of constantly checking my phone / wasting time browsing stupid poo poo. [/quote] I think if you dismiss the idea that the Apple watches functionality doesn’t resemble that of a normal watch you will be fine. I use my watch for the following things in order of how frequently they are used. I exclusively use the modular face which packs the most functionality in. 1: glance to check the time / date / temperature / calendar 2: check notifications to see if I need to deal with an email (I get about 60-70 a day) 3: respond to texts via Siri 4: control music played via airpods from my phone
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rage-saq posted:One thing to keep in mind is that the Series 3 represents a pretty big performance jump over the Series 1/2 (70% improvement claimed), which itself represented a huge performance jump over the S0. Apple didn’t put a number on the improvement between the first chip and the second, but it was pretty huge. This means the performance delta between the S0 and the S3 should be enormous, like 300% plus huge. That's the big thing I'm looking forward to with a S3 coming from S0. Most apps are pretty laggy and sometimes Siri falls apart. When things work, it's great but it gets frustrating when I have to wait for something to work, usually easier to just pull the phone out (like when using dark sky). I'm assuming there won't be any problems with the new watch.
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The Apple Watch is great for keeping your phone in your pocket more, especially for travel and for being out with friends. It's not life and drag, but it's really nice once you start using it.
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Duckman2008 posted:The Apple Watch is great for keeping your phone in your pocket more, especially for travel and for being out with friends. It's not life and drag, but it's really nice once you start using it. I thought this as well, but I've encountered people think I'm looking at the time as if I'm boring them. It's a weird tradeoff. I'm trying to be more respectful of their time by not pulling out my phone every buzz to see if it's something important but instead they think I'm impatient. I'm actually looking to sell my S2, not a great time to make that call with the 3 dropping. I need to use my AC to make it sellable (good chip taken out of the thick part of the glass by the band, yikes!) and now am not sure I'd clear $200 after expenses ($69 replacement) even with the 1 extra AC claim on it for a year. Stupid me.
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Ultimate Mango posted:Wow so you scratched through the black? With the way I have scratched my watches I wonder if I will do the same. Or I just need to get smart and take off my watch when doing things that can scratch it? And those walls can scratch the sapphire too, to give a sense of how much hardness is needed to scratch the black coating. Like I can't think of anything in normal circumstances that would scratch the drat thing. What things were you thinking of that might scratch it? Speaking of scratches, I forget where the ceramic rates but it's also in the same ballpark afaik. The difference is that it's the same color/material all the way through, so even if it does scratch it'd be less visible (but not polishable like plain stainless). I've read about self healing properties too but hell if I know if Apple's ceramic mix has that. Haggins posted:Think it's worth getting the Apple car on the s3 stainless? I plan on keeping it at least 3 years and my S0 sport has a small crack in the corner. I'm always running around an industrial environment and smacking it around a lot. I'm assuming I'll probably be ok since the SS is sapphire.
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So does Os4 really get rid of the music apps ability to select music from your iPhone  ?That’s a HUGE drawback for me
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rage-saq posted:One thing to keep in mind is that the Series 3 represents a pretty big performance jump over the Series 1/2 (70% improvement claimed), which itself represented a huge performance jump over the S0. Apple didn’t put a number on the improvement between the first chip and the second, but it was pretty huge. This means the performance delta between the S0 and the S3 should be enormous, like 300% plus huge. I have a S0 now and for most of my use it's fine (mainly just checking notifications and workout tracking, with some dictation for texts every once and a while). It gets jammed up every once and a while so I've been thinking of going with a non-LTE S3 in hopes that it speeds all that stuff up. I'm not a heavy user so I'm not in a huge rush, but I think I'll jump on the S3 train at some point. I just want those new sport loop bands, so cool looking. Super annoying I can't buy a 42mm with one of those. Makes me kinda wish they sold just the watch without a band.
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He's talking about the nylon ones, I think.
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Endless Mike posted:He's talking about the nylon ones, I think. Yeah, this thing: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQVX2AM/A/38mm-black-sport-loop If you want a GPS only 42mm, you cannot order it with the sport loop, only sport bands or nike sport bands. I'll probably order this whenever I upgrade: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-watc...L/A&step=detail
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rage-saq posted:I think if you dismiss the idea that the Apple watches functionality doesn’t resemble that of a normal watch you will be fine. Cool, sounds similar to my typical use pattern with my phone.
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No matter if I turn notifications off in the Watch app, News keeps sending me updates. I do enjoy having them come to my phone so am hesitant to turn them off altogether. Is this a bug that (hopefully) will be address in WatchOS4? Or has anyone figured out a solution? It's very annoying. I'm trying to keep my notifications on my wrist to be actual people communicating to me and not getting an update that Trump did something stupid again.
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That is amazing, I've never seen anything like that before. Not even close. I wonder if scratching it initially gives a better surface area for further scratches to form, thus making the effect worsen over time. In any case, I am actually impressed. I am close to people at apple and have seen my share of space black watches. This is just a whole other level from anything I've heard of or seen.
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Never owned a smart watch before, so I have a couple questions. I'm considering the LTE version for my fiancee. She is a runner (just got accepted to Boston 2018 yesterday actually  ). She runs in the dark at 5am multiple times a week and brings her phone with her so I can Find My Friends her just to make sure she's not dead in a ditch somewhere. She wears a Garmin to track the runs. - I assume I could Find My Friends her watch if I got her the LTE version? Do we know anything about that yet? - For the GPS in the S2 or whatever, how accurate is it compared to a Garmin? Do most people use RunKeeper/Strava? Or does Apple have a built-in tracker? I'm trying to mash 2 devices into 1 small one since she hates carrying her phone or wearing it in a belt. Also, what's the difference between the "regular" Apple Watches and the Nike one? Is it just extra faces or whatever, or are there actual, meaningful differences? Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Sep 18, 2017 |
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Sep 18, 2017 20:36
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Never owned a smart watch before, so I have a couple questions. I'm considering the LTE version for my fiancee. She is a runner (just got accepted to Boston 2018 yesterday actually I don't think it has been explicitly stated but yes I assume that Find My Friends will update frequently via the Apple Watch over LTE.
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Congrats to the GF, qualifying for Boston is a sweet accomplishment.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Never owned a smart watch before, so I have a couple questions. I'm considering the LTE version for my fiancee. She is a runner (just got accepted to Boston 2018 yesterday actually Not that this conflicts with her use case, but I was always irritated that I couldn't both track my activity through Apple AND use the watch version of Strava to capture my run. The watch doesn't do a good job of multitasking at all. Yes, I realize the answer is just to pick one and go for it, but I like Activity AND Strava!
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Also, what's the difference between the "regular" Apple Watches and the Nike one? Is it just extra faces or whatever, or are there actual, meaningful differences? Faces and strap. For awhile the straps were exclusive but now you can get them seperate.
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TraderStav posted:Not that this conflicts with her use case, but I was always irritated that I couldn't both track my activity through Apple AND use the watch version of Strava to capture my run. The watch doesn't do a good job of multitasking at all. Strava uploads all the data into activity though?
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Taima posted:That is amazing, I've never seen anything like that before. Not even close. Henrik Zetterberg posted:Never owned a smart watch before, so I have a couple questions. I'm considering the LTE version for my fiancee. She is a runner (just got accepted to Boston 2018 yesterday actually The Nike ones have a few extra faces, and an extra color (or more?), not sure if it's different per watch but mine as the "volt" color (I got the black/volt watch one). I like the color and the faces...not so much a fan of the unchangeable Nike complication on them though.
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MarcusSA posted:Strava uploads all the data into activity though? Does it use the watch HR though? I remember there being a compelling reason as to why I wanted both, as if there wasn't a good overlap. It's been a while.
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MarcusSA posted:Strava uploads all the data into activity though? Yeah if you use Strava on an iPhone, it sticks the data in the Health app. I would assume it would work the same way on the watch?
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TraderStav posted:Does it use the watch HR though? I remember there being a compelling reason as to why I wanted both, as if there wasn't a good overlap. Yes it does use the watch HR. It will also connect to a chest strap.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:
As a runner/cyclist who also hates carrying his phone or wearing it in a belt, I picked up the LTE version so I could ditch that phone at home. I doubt I'll make a lot of calls/texts, but it is nice to have. I've been lugging my phone around since my Fitbit fell apart last year. For your "keeping tabs on location" needs, there are actually a couple apps that do this. Glympse has a Watch integration and is a real-time location sharing (your GF would have to share her location with you). Strava also has a track my location feature if you pay for Premium. I haven't played around with it at all since I don't have Premium, but that could be an option as well. Of course, I think you have to have LTE for those to work w/o your phone.
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Are there any Apple Watch games worth playing anymore? I haven't really seen anything pop up in the last couple years aside from that Runeblade game which was really just a clicker that happened to run on the Apple Watch instead of your iPhone.
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Braincloud posted:As a runner/cyclist who also hates carrying his phone or wearing it in a belt, I picked up the LTE version so I could ditch that phone at home. I doubt I'll make a lot of calls/texts, but it is nice to have. I've been lugging my phone around since my Fitbit fell apart last year. Yeah we've used Glimpse before, but it's kind of annoying since she has to set it up every time she runs. I like Find my Friends since I can just pull it open and see where all our devices are on demand.
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So I picked up my refurb Apple Watch from the fruit stand today and there was no charger in the box? It's fine because I have an S0, but it seems weird that they wouldn't include a charger in the box, even for a returb.
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Sock The Great posted:So I picked up my refurb Apple Watch from the fruit stand today and there was no charger in the box? It's fine because I have an S0, but it seems weird that they wouldn't include a charger in the box, even for a returb. Like, you bought the refurb, or it was a replacement?
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You Should have gotten a charging cable but no wall wart. I think they took out the wall wart when the S1 came out.
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S2 always had a wall wart, S1 did not. Just checked the refurb page and it looks like they do not come with the wall wart anymore. Odd.
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