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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Ceiling fan posted:

Did you tell him that InfoWars is the name for a hostile nation's CYBERCOM/propaganda force? That should work on the next LT. Since the military is carrying on with its proud tradition of placing the truly stupid, or the truly ignorant, or both, into its junior officer slots.
Well it kind of is actually, at least as far as propaganda goes.

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
What company even has need for aircrew thats not part of the flight crew or pax services? Besides defense contractors I guess

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I imagine freight haulers have something like a loadmaster. Mission specialists on the space shuttle/rockets. That's about all I've got.

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May 22, 2010

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Godholio posted:

Your degree is probably going to count for a lot more than your airborne experience. What platform? If you worked with JOVIAL or similar, you might luck into a sweet gig if the timing is right as something opens, but otherwise work that education.

I've only been assigned to the E4B. There are quite a few companies that service :smuggo: our program, so that's an option, but like you said the timing has to be right.


Getting out looks like the best option. Worst case scenario is I take a slight pay cut initially, but recover fairly quickly, if I had to take a pay cut at all. I was just hoping someone here would share their post separation job market experience.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
IT seems pretty unique compared to other stuff, but I spent a few months unemployed after finishing my degree, then got hired at a relatively low salary, now my pay is back where it was as an O-3. Supposedly I've got a better paying job waiting for me once it winds its way through the approval process to even be listed. These hurricanes are slowing things down significantly.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Looks like I'm getting a post-Korea follow on to Peterson.

For the first time in my career, I'm going to try to be proactive about where I live, rather than figuring it out after I get there.

Anybody ever live in Colorado Springs? Neighborhood recommendations? I assume I'll buy a house, but that's by no means a sure thing.

standard.deviant
May 17, 2012

Globally Indigent
e: mispost

standard.deviant fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Sep 18, 2017

pkells
Sep 14, 2007

King of Klatch
Not that the Air Guard is that bad, but every once in a while I have days where I'm glad I joined. Like today.

A few of us got to swing by a gunnery range where SFS was qualifying on their heavier weapons. They had extra ammo, so we got to shoot the M2, 240B, and the 203. At one point, they left me and another Lt unsupervised with two 203's, about a hundred practice rounds, a wide open range, and instructions to "Not do what other CATM guys do and shoot straight up and see if you can dodge the falling round, but have fun." We probably fired 20 rounds trying to get the shots to hit each other in mid-air. It felt like I was loving around at a driving range with a bucket of balls. Our fighter pilot Vice Wing CC even stopped by to fire off a few rounds, and then spent 20 minutes on his hands and knees in the dirt helping pick up brass. I wasn't expecting that.

Sidenote: drill weekends have become so much better since I commissioned. A few months ago I got to ride around in an Abrams on the airfield with a tank crew who had permission from the Wing CC to tear up the grass and have some fun.

Hamlet442
Mar 2, 2008

Arc Light posted:

Looks like I'm getting a post-Korea follow on to Peterson.

For the first time in my career, I'm going to try to be proactive about where I live, rather than figuring it out after I get there.

Anybody ever live in Colorado Springs? Neighborhood recommendations? I assume I'll buy a house, but that's by no means a sure thing.

I lived in the Springs for a little over 4 years. Buying a house right now might be a bad time since their market is expensive. A friend of mine bought a house 2 years ago, did no improvements, and just sold it for 45k more than he paid. So just keep that in mind when looking around. I'd stick to the east side and away from Fort Carson as much as you can. Base housing is small, but doable if you don't have a big family and don't mind doing that. I lived in the apartments off Barnes and they were pretty nice and not too expensive. Powers and Academy are the biggest roads there and living somewhere between them is ideal. The city has about 450,000 people in it, but it's easy to get across it and doesn't take too long. Traffic isn't too horrible. I didn't have kids when I lived there, so I can't speak to the schools if you have school-aged children. I'm phone posting right now, but I can add more tomorrow if you have more questions.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



Thanks for the advice. No wife and no kids, so I'd much prefer to live off base, as long as I can avoid the lovely parts of town and/or army land.

SalTheBard
Jan 26, 2005

I forgot to post my food for USPOL Thanksgiving but that's okay too!

Fallen Rib

Arc Light posted:

Looks like I'm getting a post-Korea follow on to Peterson.

For the first time in my career, I'm going to try to be proactive about where I live, rather than figuring it out after I get there.

Anybody ever live in Colorado Springs? Neighborhood recommendations? I assume I'll buy a house, but that's by no means a sure thing.

I loved Peterson AFB. Fountain / Widefield area is great. It's South of Peterson (and technically closer to Fort Carson) but it's a great low key area. If you want a view of the mountains I would avoid the East side of town (anything East of Powers). With legalized weed the housing market is loving nuts and houses (and apartments) are crazy expensive. Depending on what kind of area you are looking for there is an area for you.

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.

pkells posted:

At one point, they left me and another Lt unsupervised with two 203's, about a hundred practice rounds, a wide open range, and instructions to "Not do what other CATM guys do and shoot straight up and see if you can dodge the falling round, but have fun."

You did it though, right?

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



The last written assignment at my NCO Academy involves writing a plan for self-improvement for the next few years. The usual management buzzword stuff.

Throughout the paper, I've been very consistent in referring to the plan as my Five Year Plan, and calling the document itself my manifesto.

I really hope it raises an eyebrow or two.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Make sure to talk about how much money you donate to leftists to really max out your watchlist submission rate

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Arc Light posted:

The last written assignment at my NCO Academy involves writing a plan for self-improvement for the next few years. The usual management buzzword stuff.

Throughout the paper, I've been very consistent in referring to the plan as my Five Year Plan, and calling the document itself my manifesto.

I really hope it raises an eyebrow or two.

turn it it with a red coversheet

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


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45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

turn it it with a red coversheet

And playing this on your phone.

https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012

Arc Light posted:

The last written assignment at my NCO Academy involves writing a plan for self-improvement for the next few years. The usual management buzzword stuff.

Throughout the paper, I've been very consistent in referring to the plan as my Five Year Plan, and calling the document itself my manifesto.

I really hope it raises an eyebrow or two.

A specter is haunting NCOA, the specter of transformational leadership.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

BadOptics posted:

A specter is haunting NCOA, the specter of transformational leadership.

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



BadOptics posted:

A specter is haunting NCOA, the specter of transformational leadership.

:vince:

Knives Amilli
Sep 26, 2014
Well looks like I got selected for an Officer Slot. :toot:

Hail Satan.

Rekinom
Jan 26, 2006

~ shady midair gas hustler ~

~ good hair ~

~ colt 45 ~

Knives Amilli posted:

Well looks like I got selected for an Officer Slot. :toot:

Hail Satan.

JacksLibido
Jul 21, 2004

Knives Amilli posted:

Well looks like I got selected for an Officer Slot. :toot:

Hail Satan.

Congrats, what job?

Knives Amilli
Sep 26, 2014

JacksLibido posted:

Congrats, what job?

17S. Figure since its the Guard and all there will be some more hoops to jump through but got the official email today.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

BadOptics
Sep 11, 2012


Perfect.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

JacksLibido
Jul 21, 2004

Knives Amilli posted:

17S. Figure since its the Guard and all there will be some more hoops to jump through but got the official email today.

Pro tip, nobody outside your career field will know what those numbers and letters mean.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Besides I thought only rated officers had career fields that mattered outside of their current job title

pkells
Sep 14, 2007

King of Klatch

Knives Amilli posted:

17S. Figure since its the Guard and all there will be some more hoops to jump through but got the official email today.

Congrats man, being a guard officer is a pretty sweet deal. I just commissioned last year, and most drill weekends involve me doing whatever I feel like under the guise of "getting to know the squadron". That'll probably change when I get some responsibility, but for now, drill is way better than it was when I was enlisted.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

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Besides I thought only rated officers had career fields that mattered outside of their current job title
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Not really. Scientists and engineers have an entirely separate career track and command structure within the program offices.

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
[quote="“Arc Light”" post="“476491701”"]
Looks like I’m getting a post-Korea follow on to Peterson.

For the first time in my career, I’m going to try to be proactive about where I live, rather than figuring it out after I get there.

Anybody ever live in Colorado Springs? Neighborhood recommendations? I assume I’ll buy a house, but that’s by no means a sure thing.
[/quote]

Hey man I'll try to remember to get back to you on this tomorrow when my brain is working better. My first and only assignment was Pete and I've been here since I got out. I've been in the springs about 9 years. The town is a huge loving disgusting sprawl so you've got a million options depending on what you want.

I will say every renter knows what BAH is and the home market is kinda blowin up because Carson is gonna explode in size since TRUMP! I got my house in 2014 and it's gone up like 50k without doing anything because I live in the middle of town.

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016

Hamlet442 posted:

I lived in the Springs for a little over 4 years. Buying a house right now might be a bad time since their market is expensive. A friend of mine bought a house 2 years ago, did no improvements, and just sold it for 45k more than he paid. So just keep that in mind when looking around. I'd stick to the east side and away from Fort Carson as much as you can. Base housing is small, but doable if you don't have a big family and don't mind doing that. I lived in the apartments off Barnes and they were pretty nice and not too expensive. Powers and Academy are the biggest roads there and living somewhere between them is ideal. The city has about 450,000 people in it, but it's easy to get across it and doesn't take too long. Traffic isn't too horrible. I didn't have kids when I lived there, so I can't speak to the schools if you have school-aged children. I'm phone posting right now, but I can add more tomorrow if you have more questions.

The east side is an ugly rear end dump and full of military folks. Briargate is nasty as gently caress too. The whole town is a cesspool honestly.

If you want the best experience Stay west of 25 and north of 24. Or move to Castle Rock and commute. And the housing market is insane between Denver and Colorado Springs right now. Denver is so short on houses people are actually choosing to move to Colorado Springs and commute to places with an economy and not just retiring from the military or getting stuck there.

Hamlet442
Mar 2, 2008

milk milk lemonade posted:

The east side is an ugly rear end dump and full of military folks. Briargate is nasty as gently caress too. The whole town is a cesspool honestly.

If you want the best experience Stay west of 25 and north of 24. Or move to Castle Rock and commute. And the housing market is insane between Denver and Colorado Springs right now. Denver is so short on houses people are actually choosing to move to Colorado Springs and commute to places with an economy and not just retiring from the military or getting stuck there.

It's been seven years since I've been there. It's a bummer that you think the east side has gone to poo poo. I generally stayed around the houses in that area. The west side of 25 was nice for the view and the chances of seeing someone military is smaller, but I would hate the commute. I was at Schriever so it was a 30 minute drive for me and I was already on the east side. I can't imagine the commute living west of 25 and driving all the way out to Schriever. A friend of mine lives in Castle Rock and drives to Schriever, and his commute is an hour. I wouldn't want to leave my house at 630 and get home at 530, but I suppose your days off would be nice.

milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016
I doubt much of anything has changed since you lived there, other than the Powers corridor filling out. The East side is like living in a Kansas suburb. All flat and full of cookie cutter shitboxes. And it has the same creeping grossness that any part of CS with a high # of rentals and milfolk experiences. It'll be just like everything that touches Academy sooner than later.

AkrisD
Sep 2, 2004
olololol '04 newb hurrrrrrr
Anyone have experience with being force retrained? I was going to reenlist but with the specter of being retrained into something lovely that I can't get out of I kind of don't want to risk it.

Also in regards to reenlisting, will afpc give me an assignment before I reenlist and tell me to get availability or will they just say this person is coming up on their end of enlistment and they don't need one?

Arc Light
Sep 26, 2013



AkrisD posted:

Also in regards to reenlisting, will afpc give me an assignment before I reenlist and tell me to get availability or will they just say this person is coming up on their end of enlistment and they don't need one?

I have no experience with retraining, but I can speak to retainability.

I've had orders drop when I was less than a year from separating, multiple times. Generally speaking you have 15 days (I think, don't quote me on the timeline) to either reenlist or complete an AF Form 1411, Extension of Enlistment in the Air Force. You may also need to complete a leave settlement form.

The type of PCS assignment will determine the number of months you would need to extend for. CONUS assignments (with some exceptions) require at least 12 months on your contract after you PCS. Overseas tours require the full length of the tour (1, 2, 3, or 4 years).

David Bowie Knife
May 22, 2010

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My office contacted me while I'm leave to ask if I can return early to go TDY, so I ask to get back briefed today since they did mission planning and I'm still on leave. BOIII THESE FUCKS ARE HAVING US WORK 12S. MY POS SUPER FORGOT TO MENTION THAT BEFOTE ASKING FOR THE FAVOR.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

David Bowie Knife posted:

My office contacted me while I'm leave to ask if I can return early to go TDY, so I ask to get back briefed today since they did mission planning and I'm still on leave. BOIII THESE FUCKS ARE HAVING US WORK 12S. MY POS SUPER FORGOT TO MENTION THAT BEFOTE ASKING FOR THE FAVOR.

Why the gently caress would you agree to do that

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May 22, 2010

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They let me push my PT test to next month, which I thought would be cool because I just spent a week drinking at my sister-in-law's for her wedding, and my test was supposed to be in two days. We've never had to drop down to two shifts for any alert I've ever been on, so it's pretty out-of-the-ordinary.

This squadron is a garbage fire though, so I shouldn't be surprised. :tif:

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