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Shaggar posted:Samsung doesn't do their own chip design and qualcom has no incentive to create better chips so it wont change until one of those two things change. are the exynos chips straight arm designs? i thought they were at least a bit different rather than just cut and paste?
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LastInLine posted:honestly to me the amazing part isnt that apple is killing it on making their soc its that samsung has literally entire stack under their chaebol and have for almost a decade and still cant do better than qualcomm there's definitely someone who worked for samsung in the past, and from the few hints he's posted....yeah
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LastInLine posted:are the exynos chips straight arm designs? i thought they were at least a bit different rather than just cut and paste? according to their website, it's a custom core design. http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/Solution/MobileProcessor/Exynos_9_Series_8895.html
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LastInLine posted:are the exynos chips straight arm designs? i thought they were at least a bit different rather than just cut and paste? as endless mike says they *call* them custom designs, but i don't think there has been any evidence they have ever achieved anything except making them a little bit worse on some metrics qualcomm meanwhile has a pretty hit-or-miss recorrd on cpu design, but they do still own the market when it comes to integrating functioning modem hardware on a die, afaik there is no real competition there
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Samsung's cores are basically "optimized" arm cores. they take the stock ARM designs and tweak them a little. they've never been a player in the ISA development process like apple, Qualcomm, AMD, and Nvidia have been, which is something you would expect from someone doing their own microarchitecure.
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also from anything I've heard working at Samsung is awful but you can't say anything about it because of Korean pride. I've an engineer from Samsung Semiconductor ask me to relay messages to Samsung Display because they literally can't communicate internally.
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speaking of nvidia did they make any phones yet?
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:speaking of nvidia did they make any phones yet? nvidia can't make a chip that doesn't melt through the customer's hand and tunnel through the earth's crust if used without active cooling. they've given up on making mobile chips.
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:speaking of nvidia did they make any phones yet? the tesla model s is the only tegra device with a body large enough to dissipate the heat properly and it does include a cellular modem
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The Management posted:also from anything I've heard working at Samsung is awful but you can't say anything about it because of Korean pride. the thing about chaebols is that they're not operated like the same company. in Japan this is literal - like two companies with Mitsubishi in their name maybe completely unrelated now but Korea has somehow managed to have the worst of all worlds
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LastInLine posted:it turns out designing processors is hard and qualcomm isnt v. good at it imo this is pretty far down the list of bad things about buying an Android. and even on this point, let's say their designs aren't the best, sure, but device manufacturers and Google are the ones putting the rest of it all together. and they've chosen (so far) not to the best job optimizing things (e.g. for battery life) Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:imo this is pretty far down the list of bad things about buying an Android. and even on this point, let's say their designs aren't the best, sure, but device manufacturers and Google are the ones putting the rest of it all together. and they've chosen (so far) not to the best job optimizing things (e.g. for battery life) id put poor optimization below literally stops working permanently in my hierarchy of android sins but i cant tell you how to feel
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the anecdotes I have heard from people who worked with Samsung are pretty consistent. They're infamous for just hanging up a conference call if things aren't going their way for a moment.
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LastInLine posted:id put poor optimization below literally stops working permanently in my hierarchy of android sins but i cant tell you how to feel that's what i said, it's far down the list, below stuff like security failures, bricky build quality, literal explosions
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I wish that "Restrict background data" actually worked, and that it didn't create a permanent notification that disables the setting when you touch it.
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it's kinda  but you can go into each app's entry in the "app info" settings pane and toggle off the "background data" switch. that's what it's called in 8.0 so it might be different on older versions
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Rickets posted:I'd like to take a minute to pimp the almost unheard of Lenovo Yoga Tab 3 Plus.
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yeah you can buy a 128gb new ipad for that money
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who is playing games so much on their android that they pair a loving controller to it? for $400 just buy a ps4
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LastInLine posted:who is playing games so much on their android that they pair a loving controller to it? for $400 just buy a ps4 you post in the android thread and know perfectly well that emulators are about as common a use case as anime for phones, never mind tablets
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LastInLine posted:who is playing games so much on their android that they pair a loving controller to it? for $400 just buy a ps4 i mean not even who, but what the gently caress you are playing. most of the games worth their salt, relative to generic android shite, are played with maximum two fingers
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never forget
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bill gates just switched to anroid i'm not sure what to think about this development
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Midjack posted:bill gates just switched to anroid huh an old out-of-touch nerd using android shocker
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can someone tell me the story about the android phone that sent all your personal info to china i just caught up on the thread and heard it mentioned
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Taintrunner posted:can someone tell me the story about the android phone that sent all your personal info to china a bunch of companies who make really cheap poor-phones have spyware on their devices which send your data to somewhere in china in other news, water is wet
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Taintrunner posted:can someone tell me the story about the android phone that sent all your personal info to china there's not much story there. with the possible exception of motorola-branded lenovos, every chinese phone manufacturer has been caught sending all their data to china. but hey at least you can save $100 versus buying a good phone!
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Midjack posted:bill gates just switched to anroid he literally so bitter at apple that he's spiting himself by using a terrible phone. this is a guy who forbade his kids from having an iPod and tried to stop his wife from using an iPhone but she told him to piss off.
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The Management posted:he literally so bitter at apple that he's spiting himself by using a terrible phone. this is a guy who forbade his kids from having an iPod and tried to stop his wife from using an iPhone but she told him to piss off. i still don't understand how MS managed to have some actual success with the xbox brand. it's like the single new consumer product/line of theirs in decades that they didn't mismanage into oblivion
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i still don't understand how MS managed to have some actual success with the xbox brand. it's like the single new consumer product/line of theirs in decades that they didn't mismanage into oblivion when you say success, do you mean not counting all of the billions they poured into generations of Xbox that lost money, RROD replacements, HD-DVD, Kinect, and the whole Xbox to control your media center debacle?
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i still don't understand how MS managed to have some actual success with the xbox brand. it's like the single new consumer product/line of theirs in decades that they didn't mismanage into oblivion weren't mismanaging is a better way of putting it since the xbone has been a disaster of a product from the day it was announced. most of the success with the xbox came from back in the time when they were still making some good decisions and not putting most of their effort into trying and failing to play catch-up with apple and google.
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yeah yeah. maybe i should have said "the only brand they actually tried to make better and didn't give up on after 2 years"
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i still don't understand how MS managed to have some actual success with the xbox brand. it's like the single new consumer product/line of theirs in decades that they didn't mismanage into oblivion its more that nintendo gave up and then sony fell flat on their face
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Lutha Mahtin posted:yeah yeah. maybe i should have said "the only brand they actually tried to make better and didn't give up on after 2 years"
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I like my surface pro when it detects my type cover
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Endless Mike posted:you post in the android thread and know perfectly well that emulators are about as common a use case as anime for phones, never mind tablets i honestly forgot about emulators lol
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i still don't understand how MS managed to have some actual success with the xbox brand. it's like the single new consumer product/line of theirs in decades that they didn't mismanage into oblivion they bought game studios and told them to make xbox games. an underpowered tv-computer with directx and exclusive titles is pretty hard to gently caress up when you have unlimited money
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if they want similar success with phones they just have to buy at&t and tell them to only allow microsoft phones on the network
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Maximum Leader posted:if they want similar success with phones they just have to buy at&t and tell them to only allow microsoft phones on the network they could just wire google ther at&t acquisition money that way i think
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