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flashy_mcflash posted:I dunno about leaning QUITE this hard into the negative press but, hey, maybe it'll work. Reminds me of Tom Lehrer putting quotes from negative reviews on the back cover of one of his albums, including my personal favourite: "Mr. Lehrer's muse is not fettered by such inhibiting factors as taste."
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I really hate this recent push to turn film criticism into baseball sabermetrics where a bunch of arbitrary poll numbers combined with a secret proprietary formula that just happens to reinforce the status quo is a 100% objective and factual measurement of a movie's quality, so I fully support them pushing back against it.http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/here-are-the-only-19-movies-to-ever-receive-an-f-cinemascore.html posted:What these movies have in common is that they take on the cloak of a genre and then refuse to give the audience what they expect from that genre, a feat that Mother! — which was marketed largely as a horror movie — perpetrates gleefully. If CinemaScore’s list of Fs has a major lesson, it’s that audiences do not like to be fooled in this way. (Trey Edward Shults’s It Comes at Night and Robert Eggers’s The Witch are recent examples of this phenomenon as well; both received very positive reviews and then D and C- CinemaScores, respectively, when they turned out to defy the horror genre’s parameters.)
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flashy_mcflash posted:I dunno about leaning QUITE this hard into the negative press but, hey, maybe it'll work. Erk. I loved the movie, but using the half-beaten face like that makes it look kind of like "come watch a woman get the poo poo kicked out of her" is the message. Which admittedly is what some people who hated it took out of it. The "this movie is revolting! ;p" style poster seems more of a schlock horror thing too, but I can understand the urge to spin the negative attention into ticketsales.
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I don't get people who thought the VVitch was nothing like the trailer. I went to see it because of the trailer expecting exactly what I got.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I dunno about leaning QUITE this hard into the negative press but, hey, maybe it'll work. 
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Guy Mann posted:I really hate this recent push to turn film criticism into baseball sabermetrics where a bunch of arbitrary poll numbers combined with a secret proprietary formula that just happens to reinforce the status quo is a 100% objective and factual measurement of a movie's quality, so I fully support them pushing back against it. I wanna punch whoever wrote that article.
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Peanut President posted:I wanna punch whoever wrote that article. quote:The Box becomes increasingly complicated and outré as it goes on, culminating in a fable of moralism
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I wanna get this blown up and put it on my wall.
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Has anyone explained why Mother got a wide release? It just seems like a very odd choice to receive that much of a wide screening.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Has anyone explained why Mother got a wide release? It just seems like a very odd choice to receive that much of a wide screening.
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Getting it made is one thing, the question is more why it was put into wide release instead of targeting smaller art house crowds who would be more likely to "get it".
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Paramount needs a hit, man. That's literally all it was - they looked at the facts: director who made previous psychological thriller that made several hundred million dollars and won the lead an Oscar decides to make another psychological thriller type movie (at least it seemed that way to them) with the biggest actress in America at the moment. With that to go off of, they decided to take a swing at it being a breakout hit and released it wide. And then it didn't blow up the way they wanted as Darren went more Requiem For A Dream and less Black Swan with it and of course the general audience recoiled.
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Yeah but did they not like look at a rough cut or something
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If you watched a rough cut of Black Swan you also wouldn't have expected that to make $300+ million. A movie featuring a woman masturbating, an ecstasy sequence, lesbian sex, a woman turning into a swan, someone being stabbed with a mirror shard, all shot on grainy-rear end 16mm and about ballet? Sometimes you just look at a thing and go "I don't get it, but maybe that's why it'll work" and in Paramount's case any and every exec would be thinking that since the only thing they could get a good return on was Transformers stuff and that has a huge gross share with Hasbro and Bay at this point. They're at the point where rolling the dice and hoping for the best is their best play.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Getting it made is one thing, the question is more why it was put into wide release instead of targeting smaller art house crowds who would be more likely to "get it". Mother! really isn't a subtle movie at all, I think most viewers with half a lobe are going to "get it" and walk away pretty clear on the themes and allusions Aronofsky shoves down your throat, especially in the last 30min of the film. I think the harder question to answer is why did they try to market it as a horror film?
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Marketing is a black art that no one truly understands.
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davidspackage posted:Erk. I loved the movie, but using the half-beaten face like that makes it look kind of like "come watch a woman get the poo poo kicked out of her" is the message. Plus there has already been a controversy concerning a poster depicting violence against jennifer lawrence so you would think they would be extra careful. Also the two character painting posters for mother! are so good that I hate them primarily advertising with the boring close up of j.law with slight cracks poster so much.
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I don't think it helped that the movie deviates so wildly from the original source material.
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Schwarzwald posted:Marketing is a black art that no one truly understands. The only thing you have to successfully market is yourself.
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Some more Thor 3 stuff.        
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This is a really fun idea, but it feels like they didn't go all the way with it by just having Thor on it. Having both Thor and Hulk on it would make it more authentic to an actual fight poster. 
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flashy_mcflash posted:Did The Guardian give it two stars? Haha That's... kinda brilliant.
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Darthemed posted:
Love that beam of light that branches off from the torch and curves so as to illuminate both of the stars eyes without obeying the properties of light or making any real aesthetic sense either.
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Moon Atari posted:Love that beam of light that branches off from the torch and curves so as to illuminate both of the stars eyes without obeying the properties of light or making any real aesthetic sense either. It's horrible, and somehow makes the poster look cross-eyed.
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The cinema trailers for Mother! are equally terrible, literally saying  EVERYONE REMEMBERS WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY SAW....MOTHER! (book your tickets in the foyer now!) It's just awful.
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Long ago in a distant land, I, Aku, the shape-shifting Master of Darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Aku!
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Palpek posted:Long ago in a distant land, I, Aku, the shape-shifting Master of Darkness, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the future that is Aku!  That reminds me. I need to re-up my Hulu account so I can catch that last season they just did.
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Proteus Jones posted:
Watch the first three episodes and pretend it was just a little miniseries/movie. The season manages to hold it down a little longer after that, but the back half is just awful.
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Darthemed posted:How many of SLJ's characters are distinguished primarily by hat choice? so this is the kingsman villains prequel
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Proteus Jones posted:
Let me know if it's good because the idea just sounds awful. "Hey remember that really cool cartoon you used to like? It's back, and this time it has blood and loving!"
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The first three episodes are a work of art. It actually makes the most of its increased rating and it doesn't feel really edgy about it. Its real failing is the script of the latter half, chief problem being a really unfortunate romantic plot.
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Samurai Jack has blood and loving now?
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No loving. Just blood. And had, it was a 10 episode season that ended earlier this year.
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COOL CORN posted:Samurai Jack has blood and loving now? It got a revival season on Adult Swim earlier this year and it let them be TV-MA. The increased violence was actually used really well (a lot of the story is about how waging a futile war for so long has turned him into a ragged and empty person a la Mad Max and him dealing with actually killing someone after so long slaughtering nothing but robots and monsters), everything involving the creepy romance between Jack and what is effectively a brainwashed child who is obsessed with him is awful even before you consider the fact that her design has popped up in almost every other Genndy Tartakovsky show so he obviously is into it.
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Guy Mann posted:It got a revival season on Adult Swim earlier this year and it let them be TV-MA. The increased violence was actually used really well (a lot of the story is about how waging a futile war for so long has turned him into a ragged and empty person a la Mad Max and him dealing with actually killing someone after so long slaughtering nothing but robots and monsters), everything involving the creepy romance between Jack and what is effectively a brainwashed child who is obsessed with him is awful even before you consider the fact that her design has popped up in almost every other Genndy Tartakovsky show so he obviously is into it. I'm just finishing up the season now, and yeah the romance feels shoehorned in, but she's a child? They never give her age, just a training montage as she grows. I mean 50 years have passed and Jack stopped aging after he went to the future. If she's supposed to be a kid, yeah that's creepy, but it never crossed my mind.
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Darthemed posted:How many of SLJ's characters are distinguished primarily by hat choice? The theater near my college played the trailer for this in front of almost every movie from 2005-06 or so. Practically had the whole thing memorized by the time the movie came out (not that I ever saw it).
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She's supposed to be 18 I think, but they show that because of only being raised to kill Jack, she has the emotional maturity of a child.
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New Samurai Jack was mostly great, except for how they wrapped up the ending. Last two episodes the pace really picks up, as if they were suddenly told they'd only get 10 episodes instead of a promised 13. The ending felt like a giant gently caress you to all the fans too, I hated it.
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