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Mr. Apollo posted:Was it ever explained how Lex contacted Steppenwolf? Did he know about Apokolips before learning of the 100,000 worlds from the scout ship computer or was that how he found out? The latter. It was only implied on the theatrical cut but the Director's Cut actually shows it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-MUzvASr8s
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I am legit considering not watching JL now. I'm going to hold off and see what the word of mouth is, but to me it seems like my worst fears with Whedon are coming true. I really hope Zack has it in him to release a Directors cut or something
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I'll watch it but unless the reviews are really good I'll probably skip watching it in theaters.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:The latter. It was only implied on the theatrical cut but the Director's Cut actually shows it.
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Seems more weird that you'd cut big-name actor Jesse Eisenberg out of your film than anything else, really.
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josh04 posted:Seems more weird that you'd cut big-name actor Jesse Eisenberg out of your film than anything else, really. Michael K Williams couldn't make Ron Howard's reshoots for Han Solo, so he was completely cut from the film. And Snyder cut Jena Malone from BvS. BravestOfTheLamps posted:So you imagine that the writers/directors think that he allegory is clever and original, because Jesus is obviously so old and boring so they should know better. In reality it's just some nerds that find Christianity embarrassing. No, it's just that Singer did the whole Jesus thing with Superman Returns, so seeing the same motifs again was a let down. If they wanted to use a religious allegory, why not use one that hadn't been attempted before? Davros1 fucked around with this message at 13:28 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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McCloud posted:I am legit considering not watching JL now. I'm going to hold off and see what the word of mouth is, but to me it seems like my worst fears with Whedon are coming true. Lex Luther and Iris West were almost certainly cameos with no major impact on the story. They were probably cut for time and to streamline the plot similar to how Loki was cut from Age of Ultron. The other leaked plot points have, allegedly, been in the script since February of 2017 and were going to be in the movie no matter what Snyder or Whedon did.
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Davros1 posted:No, it's just that Singer did the whole Jesus thing with Superman Returns, so seeing the same motifs again was a let down. If they wanted to use a religious allegory, why not use one that hadn't been attempted before? It's high time for a movie with a Superman-as-Mohammed analogy.
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It seems like now the easy course to take would be Superman-as-illegal-immigrant.
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How about one with Superman as L Ron Hubbard. Krypton was destroyed by C-140s dropping hydrogen bombs in its volcanoes.
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Sep 25, 2017 16:50
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Superman should be Moses. Maybe that's too obvious
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Sep 25, 2017 16:53
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Hey now, he was also King Arthur this time.
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Hey here's an idea nerds, maybe Superman should just be Superman huh?  UmOk posted:Superman should be Moses. Maybe that's too obvious ohhhhhhh cause the ship is the basket! I see. Nevermind what I said before this is better.
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Superman is both Jonah and the whale.
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UmOk posted:Superman should be Moses. Maybe that's too obvious That'd be Golden Age Superman, who was all kinds of gently caress the system So I approve heartily
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I think Superman was a sort of Moses amalgam from the original Jewish creators? Yes, he was a sort of Christ figure for decades but people who roll their eyes at Donner's Superman 1 are missing out on what might be a very subtle anti-religious message. Superman rejects the edict of his God-like father and listens to the whispers of his human father. In Man vs Steel at least, he was, an interesting analog for what it was like to be a middle eastern immigrant fighting for America after 9/11.
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Steve Yun posted:In Man vs Steel at least, he was, an interesting analog for what it was like to be a middle eastern immigrant fighting for America after 9/11. Krypton is his own heritage, which kind of pokes holes in that.
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What if they did a Batman-as-Jesus analogy instead
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RBA Starblade posted:What if they did a Batman-as-Jesus analogy instead only if they make him fight that batman villain who's just a crazy millionare who thinks he's zeus
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You mean Maximilian Zeus? Wow, they knocked that character name and concept out of the park
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Al Borland Corp. posted:You mean Maximilian Zeus? It's come up in the thread before but I still love how like half of Batman's villains are just different takes on "what if Batman but the opposite". Like Man-Bat, the bat man.
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Maxie Zeus is fun in BTAS because he identifies Batman as Hades. Dark but not malevolent, incredibly rich, ruler of the underworld (in a way)... Let alone the ending of that episode. I can see why they never used him again, that was about perfect.
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RBA Starblade posted:It's come up in the thread before but I still love how like half of Batman's villains are just different takes on "what if Batman but the opposite". Like Man-Bat, the bat man. With Spider-man they were basically just picking random animals to base their villains off of
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RBA Starblade posted:What if they did a Batman-as-Jesus analogy instead Do you mean the end of The Dark Knight Rises where he dies for Gotham and is then resurrected, or the bit in Batman v Superman where he's betrayed by one of his disciples, leading to his being executed while flanked by a pair of criminals?
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I kind of like how Professor Pyg is becoming a fairly iconic Batman villain (at least to the extent that he's being used in a good bit of stuff). Simply because seeing kid-targeted things try to dance around how insanely hosed up his deal is, is goddamn hilarious to me.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Do you mean the end of The Dark Knight Rises where he dies for Gotham and is then resurrected, or the bit in Batman v Superman where he's betrayed by one of his disciples, leading to his being executed while flanked by a pair of criminals? They could keep up the theme of Opposite Batman villains and have Batman be one and the villain be the other. It's a Christoff!
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Sep 25, 2017 19:40
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I would prefer a Superman as Rama story, maybe a Batman as Odysseus.
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Barudak posted:I would prefer a Superman as Rama story I'd be down for The Raid but with Superman tbh
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Wolverine as Odysseus and Cyclops as the Cyclops.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Wolverine as Odysseus and Cyclops as the Cyclops. And they have to hire a total nobody for Wolverine.
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Lobok posted:And they have to hire a total nobody for Wolverine. Namkaj Ghuhx
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Mirror Universe casting is super in right now.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I kind of like how Professor Pyg is becoming a fairly iconic Batman villain (at least to the extent that he's being used in a good bit of stuff). I feel like Dr. Hurt should be in more stuff.
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Steve Yun posted:In Man vs Steel at least, he was, an interesting analog for what it was like to be a middle eastern immigrant fighting for America after 9/11.
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Barudak posted:I would prefer a Superman as Rama story, maybe a Batman as Odysseus. Batman as Ulysses, but in the sense that he's Leopold Bloom and Gotham is Dublin.
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Who is that new-ish Batman villain who looks like John Slattery and wears a bunch of pink and is in that panel straddling a motorcycle like in Purple Rain?
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LesterGroans posted:Who is that new-ish Batman villain who looks like John Slattery and wears a bunch of pink and is in that panel straddling a motorcycle like in Purple Rain? Flamingo.
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Chairman Capone posted:It's high time for a movie with a Superman-as-Mohammed analogy. No one's going to confuse the two of them; they were in the ring together.
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