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Eopia posted:I'm pretty sure that Enhanced Machine has one feature that the other chip combiners don't have, which is that it can combine chips past +6. Yeah, the canyon machine is the only one that lets you get to +8.
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So it's the forest that's actually hell for the machines. They were probably getting on fine with the desert, assuming they had good sealants.
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You know what's even better than desert? An airless rock protected from cosmic radiation. Except that humans are hogging the dark side of the moon. 
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McDragon posted:I was going to say a Nier world in Kingdom Hearts but no. Just let Taro Yoko design one. Calling it now. The Watchers are either a) main antagonists of post III games, or b) Master Xehanort's fault.
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quote:This is another one of those quest, like the Escort Parade, that I feel like it was a mistake to have been triggered during the first playthrough of the game. Yeah it would suck really hard to find this quest during route A and try and complete it then. Of course it would be stupid to see the level 50 boss and think "oh well maybe it won't be too bad". It would be even more stupid to see you do .000001% damage per hit and think "I'd rather do it now before I forget". It's ok though, I didn't need that hour of my life 
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i am tim! posted:Yeah, for all the other "bad sequel" type faults Drakengard 2 has I'm a little shocked that they didn't mess up the main characters from the previous game. They really hit the nail on the head with Caim. The reveal with his and Manah's respective expressions was amazing.
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really queer Christmas posted:Yeah it would suck really hard to find this quest during route A and try and complete it then. Of course it would be stupid to see the level 50 boss and think "oh well maybe it won't be too bad". It would be even more stupid to see you do .000001% damage per hit and think "I'd rather do it now before I forget". It's ok though, I didn't need that hour of my life I jumped off the bridge to see if I could the first time I got there and promptly got loving destroyed 
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So what's all this talk about letting Yoko Taro into Kingdom Hearts? Would we get weapon stories for each keyblade as well?
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Iretep posted:its not much of a feature since theres never any point making chips past +6 im pretty sure. Depends on the chip and what stat is improved by it. Some chips are better fusing up to +8 because it will work out more cost efficient, some are better using multiples of smaller + level ones. You're never better off fusing chips sold to you by a vendor/Emil though because they're always maxed cost.
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I thought the machines gaining sentience was a recent thing. The Forest Kingdom has been around longer than the United States existed?
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Nohman posted:I thought the machines gaining sentience was a recent thing. The Forest Kingdom has been around longer than the United States existed? In the course of human history the US has not been around for that long.
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Besides, the war with the machines has been going for ~10,000 years at this point. For comparison, that's twice as long as all of recorded history IRL. But I think it's more that YoRHa wasn't operating in this area until 2B and 9S cleared out the abandoned factory. They don't have any information about the machines found there. Kassad fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Sep 24, 2017 |
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Its easy to imagine the war zones shift all over the world as planet side bases and factories get destroyed and remade in new places. This area probablys been in control of machines for a long time until androids decided time to shift the warzone to this place.
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The Dark Id posted:
Wara ningyo, or "straw dolls", are a type of doll made in Japan. They can be used to represent people, or aspects of people, kinda like voodoo dolls. A well-known method of laying a curse on someone involves nailing a straw doll to a sacred tree late at night, it's called "Ushi no toki mairi" iirc. Also if a straw doll is tied to a tree and a nail is driven through its chest, illness, disease, and sickness can be prevented, I guess depending on the intention of the person doing the nailing. You can read a little bit more about it/something similar here! Except in this ritual it invovles throwing the dolls into water and stuff.
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Princelet posted:Wara ningyo, or "straw dolls", are a type of doll made in Japan. They can be used to represent people, or aspects of people, kinda like voodoo dolls. A well-known method of laying a curse on someone involves nailing a straw doll to a sacred tree late at night, it's called "Ushi no toki mairi" iirc. Also if a straw doll is tied to a tree and a nail is driven through its chest, illness, disease, and sickness can be prevented, I guess depending on the intention of the person doing the nailing. Lucky D/mojo from chrono crpss is based on the same myth/idea
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Nice touch having the fight with the suicidal machines be completely devoid of music. Episode LXXXIX The Dark Id posted:And so the Overprotective Machines hands over a few dismantled upper torsos Episode XC The Dark Id posted:They attack everything they see, but it friend or foe. "quests" and "I never"
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The Dark Id posted:(you cannot actually die from fall damage.) At first I thought so, too, but I did eventually find a way to die from it. As we all know, if you lose to Father Servo on any but the final fight, you stand back up with 1 HP. Well, the time I lost, the fight ended with a blow that sent me flying just as the energy walls around the roof fell. At that level of health, even the relatively low fall damage from that height was enough to do me in. A possible explanation could be that falling damage is fractional damage, and 1 is, well, 1.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:The reveal with his and Manah's respective expressions was amazing. Manah going sane (but stupid) was also very disappointing. You know you screwed up the story when you start to sympathize with Seere of all people.
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Episode XCI: This Sure Is Sad.jpg) Yes, 9S. Get with the program. You’ve talked with Pascal multiple times and he’s basically the mayor of the .jpg) .jpg) .jpg)  His Majesty. He’s... dead.  The king who gave all for us... So benevolent and kind... And now he’s dead. ...... This sure is sad. It sure is. But we Royal Knights still have a mission..jpg) We placed His Majesty’s memory—his final memento—into this tiny child. And now we must raise this child so he might one day be our new king. .jpg) He deserves a royal upbringing... He deserves... protection....jpg)  Music: Forest Kingdom (Dynamic) .jpg) .jpg) Onward we go to the castle proper to go sort out the Forest King Immanuel, who has been trapped in a baby’s body for 128 years. You think they would have eventually sorted that out. But what do I know of machine growth cycles? .jpg) Before we rush into assault the castle for no particular reason, there’s another electronically locked chest just around the corner to the left of the entrance. This contains a Rotten Info Sheet. Would you like to know more...? .jpg) I hope Leonard III wasn’t into the same sort of extracurricular activities Leonard of Drakengard was into... I have no idea what Schwanstein Castle is meant to allude toward. There is a Neuschwanstein in German constructed in the late 1800’s that is the inspiration for Disneyland’s Sleeping Beauty Castle. I went there on a tour once. It’s a really cool looking castle. .jpg) In any case, don’t ask me how a giant European style castle ended up in the forest outside post-apocalyptic Tokyo. Maybe it was a cultural exchange with medieval Drakengard’s universe getting the modern Japanese style Cathedral City in Notspain. I dunno... Magic did it. There. Done! Moving on... Music: Alien Manifestation (Vocal) .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) The assault on Schwanstein Castle goes exactly the same as 2B’s run through the area. The Forest Kingdom machines are not happy to see us invading their home for no real reason and respond accordingly. 9S tries unsuccessfully to make his bad nickname catch on. A lot of machines die in the process. The usual. At least until we get towards the top flo— .jpg) Music: ENDS .jpg) .jpg) His Majesty hasn’t grown at all. No. Not in the slightest. How can we make him bigger? I don’t know... We’re too dumb to figure that out..jpg) Sure is a cutie, though! Yeeeeeah! So tiny and cuuute! We better keep him safe. Right. Can’t let anyone into the forest kingdom... D-Danger! Danger!.jpg) <rushes in> Everyone get out now! Intruders in the kingdom! Don’t let them in here!.jpg) Music: Alien Manifestation (Vocal) .jpg) Well, at least they know they might have screwed up royally by sticking their king’s memories into a robot baby and nobody has the ability to figure out how to fix it since they’re too busy caught in a cycle of thinking the baby is cute and rushing off to defend him from anyone. Don’t worry, that’ll get sorted out soon enough. In the meantime, we’ve got another locked chest in need of cracking by the Hackerman. This one is located on the top floor of the giant library on the eastern side of the castle. .jpg) Beastcurse is another weapon returning from the original NieR. In that game it was found in the bowels of the Junk Heap during the second half of the game. It wasn’t a particularly noteworthy weapon there and it isn’t much better here. Upgrades increase the wielder’s Endurance Up (read: better defense.) At maximum upgrade it gains Beast’s Roar, which adds claw swipe effects copied straight from Drakengard 3 Zero’s Intoner mode and a slightly wider hitbox for attacks. Sure, I guess... Beastcurse posted:
That completes the Beast-trio of weapons. So the three princesses were stuffed and mounted, converted into a bio-computer overseeing military production of a hostile nation and died destitute in a back alley respectively. Pleasant tales, all. Fun for the whole family. .jpg) .jpg) Before we continue onward to go have a rematch with A2 up in the king’s chambers, let’s take a detour to hit up Masamune the blacksmith. We haven’t seen him since our last run through the region. .jpg) Between updates I’ve been steadily upgrading weapons. We now have both the money and materials necessary to top off a number of weapons to Level 4. Spear of the Usurper and Virtuous Grief have been my two primary arms for 9S and they can both get fully upgraded now for 10k G a pop. You can see Spear of the Usurper’s requirements. Virtuous Grief requires 2 Memory Alloy, 5 Severed Cables, 3 Pristine Cables, 2 Machine Heads and a Moldavite slab. Hell if I remember where we got most of this junk. It’s mostly from the assorted sidequests we’ve done. .jpg) Since we’ve already completed the largest money sink sidequest in the game, the Half-wit Inventor, almost all of our remaining funds will be going towards either upgrading weapons to their maximum level or purchasing materials to upgrade weapons to Level 4. It’s not just for OCD completionism sake. There is an endgame sidequest that requires every single weapon be collected and upgraded fully. So that’ll be fun for me to have to do all over again... For now, we managed to get the following to Level 4:
There’s a secondary reason we went and fully upgraded a few of our weapons. If Masamune is spoken to again after having upgraded any weapon to Level 4, then... .jpg)  This is one of the weapons I was telling you about. It was passed down through the generations until it came to me, and I can’t bring myself to seal it away. But I know you will give it the respect it craves. .jpg) So Masamune hands over the Cruel Lament, the final weapon we’ll be picking up in Route B, bringing our total weapon acquisition rate to 84%. Let’s take a closer look... .jpg) Cruel Lament is straight up identical stat-wise to the Virtuous Grief combat bracer weapon. The only difference is that its final upgrade grants it the much shittier Dark Impulse, which grants increased attack when below 30% HP (Virtuous Grief grants increased attack power at full health.) Maybe its weapon story will make up for it being a lame palette swap. Cruel Lament posted:
A companion set of decapitations with the twin samurai head weapons. Lighthearted stuff in the weapon history corner this go around. .jpg) .jpg) But enough weapons chat. Let’s get back on track by murdering our way through the last of the king’s guard and storming his chambers to... yeah, no real justification for why we’re invading this castle in Route B either... Music: ENDS .jpg) .jpg)  Everything goes down here just as it did in Route A. RIP King Immanuel, the 128 year old baby. .jpg) .jpg)  Alert: The YoRHa cops are after this android. Annihilation recommended. The cops?! But why!? Cybercrimes. Cybercrimes?! 2B, this android has done cybercrimes! Affirmative. Cybercrimes. Let’s go, 9S. 2B! CYBER crime...The Commander phones up on the communicator. .jpg)  We’ve picked up a signal from the black box of a cybercriminal known as A2. A2? Why is her letter and number designation backwards? That’s classified. What you see in front of you... is your enemy. ...... But she’s— If you can’t do the cyber time, don’t do the cybercrime. Eliminate her. That’s an order. Kill her before she kills you! <disconnects>.jpg) Music: Bipolar Nightmare (Calm) .jpg) .jpg) Hey, remember how this fight lasted about 90 seconds the first time around? Well, now she can be hacked with 9S to make it last err... well, still about 90 seconds. Honestly, it probably takes longer to do the hacking mini-game than the hacking with 9S and 2B’s swords. .jpg) There’s no additional moves or techniques in A2’s arsenal. In fact, we out level her more this time than we did in the initial fight, so if anything she’s weaker this go around. Again, this is basically a glorified cutscene battle. One which A2 still bails on once she drops to 33% HP. .jpg) Why!? Why did you betray us!? I don’t even know who you are. Ergh... By “us” I meant “YoRHa.” Command is the one that betrayed you. What!? How...? Care to explain? Nope. But... I’m out..jpg) And with that, A2 bails out of Route B. Nope, we’re not gonna see her again before the second credits roll. Without spoiling too much, I can vouch that A2 might be a touch more relevant in Route C. .jpg) Music: Forest Kingdom (Quiet) .jpg) Yep. Guess we should call this in? <shrug> <opens communications> Operator, patch me through to the Commander. Roger that, 9S..jpg) I see. <leans off-screen briefly> 14O, cancel that KIA report for units 2B and 9S. Yeah, they made it. I’m surprised too. ...... Ahem. Well, at least you’re both safe. That’s an incredibly powerful unit you just faced. You should probably keep your distance in the future. Commander, why did A2 desert the force? What were her cybercrimes? That’s above your pay-grade, soldier. ...But I don’t get paid. Tch. Look, it’s classified. Now stop asking and get back to... whatever assignment I had you on last. Over and out. <disconnects> ...2B. Yeah? Let’s go ask Pascal if he knows A2’s deal. He might know something. All right. Just going to go along with that? Well... <looks back at machine corpse filled castle> I think we’re done here. Right....jpg) Music: ENDS .jpg) Whether in wind or rain... thunder or snow... or even amidst the rising flames of war... .jpg) They were always together. They never understood why. And yet, they spent their lives nestled together. .jpg) Forever. Forever and ever...    Video: Episode 91 Highlight Reel (You should probably watch this.)   Immanuel Concept Art – D’aww. He sure is cute... At least, before he got stabbed in the face after a 128 year horrific existence as an immobile baby robot.
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The Dark Id posted:
That's some great dialogue there.
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I kind of feel less bad about the baby getting stabbed in the face now.
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The Forest Kingdom were just a little bit too "Two" to be suffered to live.
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We're finally at the point where Route B becomes more interesting.
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There's great comedic timing during that scene. You can tell the robots are trying to find something meaningful to say, even if they don't really get it themselves.
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The Dark Id posted:
Ironically that same statement also sums up most of human history!
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Ironically that same statement also sums up most of human history! Which is why we're beggining to develop AI to solve things for us! I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Josuke Higashikata posted:The Forest Kingdom were just a little bit too "Two" to be suffered to live. Guilty on all counts, if you count the machine shepherd into the forest kingdom (and omit "small"), and caring for a machine baby is similar enough to an orphanage. 
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This sure was sad.
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Zomborgon posted:Guilty on all counts, if you count the machine shepherd into the forest kingdom (and omit "small"), and caring for a machine baby is similar enough to an orphanage. I had forgotten about this 
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Darth TNT posted:This sure was sad. It sure is.
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Yeah, maybe the King should've thought about this whole hereditary rule thing. Elective monarchies exist, so it's not like he even had to give up on the whole kingdom thing.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Yeah, maybe the King should've thought about this whole hereditary rule thing. Elective monarchies exist, so it's not like he even had to give up on the whole kingdom thing. They're too dumb to figure that out
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Zomborgon posted:Guilty on all counts, if you count the machine shepherd into the forest kingdom (and omit "small"), and caring for a machine baby is similar enough to an orphanage. I always voice that puppet like Canadians on South Park.
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They just stood still for a hundred years. I suppose that's the kind of thing that happens when you turn yourself off the madness network.
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Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Yeah, maybe the King should've thought about this whole hereditary rule thing. Elective monarchies exist, so it's not like he even had to give up on the whole kingdom thing. This isn't what happened. They put parts from the old king into the baby robot.
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Turns out A2 was the good guy all along! She freed the king from his immobile hell. 
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I'm looking forward to finding out just what the hell her reasons were there.
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Zomborgon posted:Guilty on all counts, if you count the machine shepherd into the forest kingdom (and omit "small"), and caring for a machine baby is similar enough to an orphanage. Still waiting for someone to replace Two with Pascal and Sock Puppet with the Emil Head.
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Leraika posted:I jumped off the bridge to see if I could the first time I got there and promptly got loving destroyed I did that, lost my body, ran down to get it and died in the animation grabbing it, and then stood on a rock they couldn't reach while I slowly shot all the machines by the elevator to death
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Leraika posted:I jumped off the bridge to see if I could the first time I got there and promptly got loving destroyed I jumped off the bridge, saw the enemies that were 30 levels higher than me and promptly spent like 20 minutes panicking and shooting everything slowly to death with my pod because I forgot about the respawn system.
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