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evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/912352631766609920

rand paul is doing work to find the most unacceptable alternatives he can think of that he can sell as true conservative demands

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Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011


It's really impressive how openly he's wound up telling his entire constituency to gently caress off

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/912357810113011712
:psyduck:

What on this death-blasted earth does Cruz even want in this bill if those multiple high-risk pools weren't enough?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/912357810113011712
:psyduck:

What on this death-blasted earth does Cruz even want in this bill if those multiple high-risk pools weren't enough?

assurance that the bill will pass with his vote, i think

i can't imagine what else he could have been asking for it looked like he got everything he wanted

Elotana
Dec 12, 2003

and i'm putting it all on the goddamn expense account
https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/912347863308480512

oof

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

https://twitter.com/greggberatan/status/912371624363556867

Cartoon villains.

Rhesus Pieces fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Sep 25, 2017

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011


Edit: Never mind!

Spiritus Nox fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Sep 25, 2017

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

How about putting down tacks on the floor to burst tires?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/912378933143904257

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
I've been living under a rock, but I vaguely recall someone saying that moderates were starting to reach out again on the cost sharing subsidies. Anyone got a link/update on that?

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

At this point, the Republicans should hope there is a Democrat wave election to rile up their base idiots again, less they turn and devour each other on the pyre of conservatism. The only person safe is Rand Paul at this point.

Crashrat
Apr 2, 2012

Heller is seriously not very bright. He had time back in the Summer vote to wait to see how McCain voted, and when McCain voted 'no' then Heller could have just voted 'present' to get himself out of being on record.

Nope he voted on it, and then doubled down by putting his name on this.

I swear there must be a think tank or lobbying firm that's more or less just guaranteed him a cushy seat on the other side of the revolving door once he loses reelection.

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

I was worried Rand Paul was serious about negotiating, but he seems pissed about the latest revision. He apparently just went on CNN reiterating his opposition. Collins should kill it if she announces soon. Ideally, we can get Murkowski as well to prevent Graham-Cassidy from launching yet another "optimism offensive" to keep me up at night.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

https://twitter.com/benjysarlin/status/912407398496768001

None of this matters to the GOP. What matters is that their donors will sit on their checkbooks until they get the tax cuts they were promised, and they can't deliver those tax cuts with Medicaid in the way.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Grammarchist posted:

I was worried Rand Paul was serious about negotiating, but he seems pissed about the latest revision. He apparently just went on CNN reiterating his opposition. Collins should kill it if she announces soon. Ideally, we can get Murkowski as well to prevent Graham-Cassidy from launching yet another "optimism offensive" to keep me up at night.

paul has been consistently trying to blow this up. there was no logical reason for him to repeatedly point out that the bill was being sold to republicans by robbing blue states, but he did

now, he's pointing out the bribes. he wants this dead. his "negotiating" was staking out a position he knew could not be accepted to seem like they refused to accept his reasonable conservative solution.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/912414957093969920

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Ah the old Rand Paul "whoa this is gonna be bad for my state, gotta stop it but from the right somehow so people don't think I'm a cuck or anything" Shuffle

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

lol ok sure

https://twitter.com/steventdennis/status/912415356295303174

What about the other KY senator?

https://twitter.com/senatemajldr/status/912417798856564737

Personally I'd love for the government to take that decision away from me!

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.
Wait it's a bad thing to not have to make decisions about health care instead of it just being taken care of? That sounds pretty awesome to me since I had two surgeries in May and June and have to decide which bills to pay first.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

evilweasel posted:

paul has been consistently trying to blow this up. there was no logical reason for him to repeatedly point out that the bill was being sold to republicans by robbing blue states, but he did

now, he's pointing out the bribes. he wants this dead. his "negotiating" was staking out a position he knew could not be accepted to seem like they refused to accept his reasonable conservative solution.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/912414957093969920

i hate rand with a furious passion. he has always been one of those pricks who wants to get rid of any bill that helps handicapped/disabled/whatever the new buzzword for us is. he wants to get rid handicap building entrances and elevators and parking spaces and pretty much everything. because i guess we are all parasites in his eyes. funny thing is my dad used to like him.

anyway, my biggest fear is they will give him everything he wants and that will get him and the fucks like cruz and lee back. and then i am uber hosed.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i hate rand with a furious passion. he has always been one of those pricks who wants to get rid of any bill that helps handicapped/disabled/whatever the new buzzword for us is. he wants to get rid handicap building entrances and elevators and parking spaces and pretty much everything. because i guess we are all parasites in his eyes. funny thing is my dad used to like him.

anyway, my biggest fear is they will give him everything he wants and that will get him and the fucks like cruz and lee back. and then i am uber hosed.

what he wants is specifically something that he knows will lose at least 3 moderate senators, his asks for this are to strip all of the funding to states, there's no way you get that to even get like 25 votes

he is absolutely a terrible person his terribleness just happens to be helping

also, confirmation that mcconnell views him as a hard no and is probably gonna pull the bill once collins says no:

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/912423748149633024

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
When is Collins expected to make a statement, anyway.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

evilweasel posted:

what he wants is specifically something that he knows will lose at least 3 moderate senators, his asks for this are to strip all of the funding to states, there's no way you get that to even get like 25 votes

he is absolutely a terrible person his terribleness just happens to be helping

also, confirmation that mcconnell views him as a hard no and is probably gonna pull the bill once collins says no:

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/912423748149633024

so they are gonna keep edging until the bitter end, gently caress me, this poo poo is making depressed/nervous/enraged. i am sick of these fuckers. i am sick of the GOP and lovely loving policies and i am angry dems for not heading this poo poo off in the past because they wanted to jerk off to the "west wing" and be smart and bi partisan and not pulling off Joe Lieberman nuts off when he went against single payer.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Dapper_Swindler posted:

so they are gonna keep edging until the bitter end, gently caress me, this poo poo is making depressed/nervous/enraged. i am sick of these fuckers. i am sick of the GOP and lovely loving policies and i am angry dems for not heading this poo poo off in the past because they wanted to jerk off to the "west wing" and be smart and bi partisan and not pulling off Joe Lieberman nuts off when he went against single payer.

This isn't fully going away until 2018(or possibly 2020) so strap in.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Office Pig posted:

When is Collins expected to make a statement, anyway.

once the CBO releases a score

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Peachfart posted:

This isn't fully going away until 2018(or possibly 2020) so strap in.

oh i know it isnt. but i want a loving brake. i know i can turn it off. but i want to be on top of things in case poo poo goes to hell. but i am in college for my senior year and all kinds of other poo poo. i literally got sick from stress for the last few days.

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

CBO preliminary analysis seems to be up.

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53126

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Dapper_Swindler posted:

oh i know it isnt. but i want a loving brake. i know i can turn it off. but i want to be on top of things in case poo poo goes to hell. but i am in college for my senior year and all kinds of other poo poo. i literally got sick from stress for the last few days.

Shouldn't be long:

https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/912434019828150272

Unless for some reason she believed we all expected her to vote for this, she should be finally killing it any minute now.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

ITS DEAD

https://twitter.com/kelsey_snell/status/912439254298583040

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

thank christ.

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

Kinda tearing up, however premature those tears may be. This one's for you, Susan.

As we go marching, marching
We battle too for men
For they are women's children
And we mother them again
Our lives shall not be sweetened
From birth until life closes
Hearts starve as well as bodies
Give us bread, but give us roses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEr5U8ERgc

Elotana
Dec 12, 2003

and i'm putting it all on the goddamn expense account
https://twitter.com/Atrios/status/912440404452225026

threeagainstfour
Jun 27, 2005


Dead for a little while longer, thank god.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

full statement, which does not pull a lot of punches

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/912439131602550785

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Grammarchist posted:

Kinda tearing up, however premature those tears may be. This one's for you, Susan.

As we go marching, marching
We battle too for men
For they are women's children
And we mother them again
Our lives shall not be sweetened
From birth until life closes
Hearts starve as well as bodies
Give us bread, but give us roses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEr5U8ERgc

yeah but it means i can sleep tonight at least.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

evilweasel posted:

full statement, which does not pull a lot of punches

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/912439131602550785

This is ridiculous! They pulled out all the stops! They got LePage!

:haw:

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

I'm assuming there's no chance of reviving this corpse before the 9/30 deadline, right?

If that's the case, when's the next GOP opportunity to terrorize the poor, sick and disabled through the budget reconciliation process? Or will they finally put this aside and try for he tax cuts?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Rhesus Pieces posted:

I'm assuming there's no chance of reviving this corpse before the 9/30 deadline, right?

If that's the case, when's the next GOP opportunity to terrorize the poor, sick and disabled through the budget reconciliation process? Or will they finally put this aside and try for he tax cuts?

they'd need to come up with a new idea, get it scored, and get a vote on it in five days. that is...unlikely. all three no votes are pretty clear that they will not support something rushed and/or will not be bribed. paul wants a completely different bill. mccain wants regular order. collins wants regular order and a sane bill. the path they saw involved getting mccain and either bribing murkowski or getting paul on board. they didn't get mccain and can't get him. it's over.

the next opportunity would not be for several months at least: the GOP has no agreement on tax cuts and needs to figure that out, then figure out if they can graft repeal onto that. also, they need to fight over if they will even issue the right instructions. there will be no possibility of "surprise! vote next week!" for some time

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich
Is CNN going to have the Bernie Sanders vs. Lindsey Graham debate live online? I really want to see Bernie humiliate these two republicans.

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Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


evilweasel posted:

full statement, which does not pull a lot of punches

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/912439131602550785

The only thing that could have made this better is for Susan Collins to have held off releasing this for three hours so I could screenshot the BREAKING NEWS chyron in the Sander/Graham debate.

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