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appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

i wasn't really paying attention to most of it

hmm

edit

:widowsnypa:

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Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

so there wasn't a technical limitation? man, that scene would have gone a lot differently if they had sent along a redshirt or two.

They were there just to extract the one dude. A big group really wouldn't be ideal in that situation. The dumb part was sending over the two senior officers instead of Michael plus a few security team members.

Then again this is Trek and they've been doing that poo poo from the get go.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

so hold on, how come riker gordi and the robot are doing the away missions? aren't they senior officers? wouldn't sending some jr randos make more sense

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




appropriatemetaphor posted:

so hold on, how come riker gordi and the robot are doing the away missions? aren't they senior officers? wouldn't sending some jr randos make more sense

I mean in any sane military you're not sending the captain and first officer into a dangerous situation at the same time. They even poked fun of the trope in a TNG episode once.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i'm not doubting how they sent the two most senior officers over, just how they didn't send anyone else. i was wondering if i missed something since it was competing for my attention with a BRAND NEW KITTEN, and obviously std lost that battle.

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

Trek being Trek is far more noticeable in the era of prestige television. :shrug:

Final Fantasy Football
Oct 3, 2006

appropriatemetaphor posted:

so hold on, how come riker gordi and the robot are doing the away missions? aren't they senior officers? wouldn't sending some jr randos make more sense

He is an android you heathen

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

The biggest flaw in STD is that it is a mash up of crap they have done before, crap that makes no sense, and the same crap you see on every military/cop show at 9pm on your favorite station.
Which all mixes together into being incredibly boring.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

i'm not doubting how they sent the two most senior officers over, just how they didn't send anyone else. i was wondering if i missed something since it was competing for my attention with a BRAND NEW KITTEN, and obviously std lost that battle.

Kittens are irrelevant. We will add its biological and technological cuteness to our own. Resistance is mew-tile.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Infidel Castro posted:

Yeah, that was probably the worst part of the pilot. Why would someone genetically engineer cattle to be able to sense when they're gonna die?


They weren't genetically engineered or bred. He said his species was "biologically purposed" to sense death. As in, the evolutionary trait they adapted for survival was skittishness and knowing when poo poo was about to pop off, helping them avoid predators

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Peachfart posted:

The biggest flaw in STD is that it is a mash up of crap they have done before, crap that makes no sense, and the same crap you see on every military/cop show at 9pm on your favorite station.
Which all mixes together into being incredibly boring.

no, the biggest flaw is the scenes where the klingons talk

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The klingons in into darkness looked better than these dweebs.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

no, the biggest flaw is the scenes where the klingons talk

oh yeah, that sucked too

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Orville has actors from DS9 and Expanse/Always Sunny, which almost makes up for having to hear/see Seth.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Johnny Aztec posted:

Wait, so the whole show looks like Battlefield: Earth?

It's not that bad but they sure aren't afraid to just use them whenever











Arcsquad12 posted:

Doug Jones looks like he'll be a lot of fun.

Also, if Michael knows Sarek, then she'll probably be aware of Spock. I wonder if any of the movie actors will make cameos, considering Kirk and Spock would be active at this time.

Zachary Quinto wishes he was a good enough actor to be on Star Trek Discovery.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
it's nice that they have a large budget and competent actors. too bad about everything else, though.

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Kitchner posted:

Nope, they spent all the budget on lens flare effects, no money for cameos.

Yeah, so I was going to ask that. The lens flares are actual computer effects?

Someone literally said, "Pay this guy to make the show look like rear end!"?

Jfc

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Kitchner posted:

Nope, they spent all the budget on lens flare effects, no money for cameos.

That's good, because you'd have to watch the theme song to find out who the guest star is.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Ep3 of The Orville is pretty good. Twist on some old themes. Good poo poo.

Mercer is an odd kind of Captain. He seems to let his crew do most of the work.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Enough about The Orville.

I'm halfway through YEAR OF HELL.

:madmax:

The General
Mar 4, 2007


STD should have been about the founding of the soulless minions of orthodoxy.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Is Harry Mudd going to be dark and brooding now?

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe
In the home stretch of a DS9 rewatch and it never occurred to me before that the one of the reasons Sisko hates Vic's casino is because of Far Beyond the Stars. For Cassidy and Jake it's history that's 300+ years in the past, but Sisko lived through that poo poo first hand so the wounds are little fresher.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Nog was definitely the last character you'd expect to have one of the most interesting arcs on the show.

The ep where he asks to join Starfleet is pretty great; the way Sisko's face falls when Nog starts his reasoning with 'I don't want to end up like my father.'

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

girth brooks part 2 posted:

In the home stretch of a DS9 rewatch and it never occurred to me before that the one of the reasons Sisko hates Vic's casino is because of Far Beyond the Stars. For Cassidy and Jake it's history that's 300+ years in the past, but Sisko lived through that poo poo first hand so the wounds are little fresher.

Vic is overrated imo I was so glad sisko didn't like him either

SPACE HOMOS
Jan 12, 2005

bitterandtwisted posted:

Is Harry Mudd going to be dark and brooding now?

Probably. Harry just wants to scam some dweebs and make space mula.

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec

shovelbum posted:

Vic is overrated imo I was so glad sisko didn't like him either

vic owns, dummy

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

The General posted:

Unless you ignore the warning buoys and fly to Talos IV.

Due to Orci destroying the timeline, Talos IV no longer has a death sentence, because Pine and Spock never went there.

Which means, in classic 1984 fashion- the Federation has never had a death penalty...

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


No, Talos IV is the Chozo homeworld. It's been infected by phazon.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

shovelbum posted:

Vic is overrated imo I was so glad sisko didn't like him either

Incalculably wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmXzamLDgFk

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Arcsquad12 posted:

Doug Jones looks like he'll be a lot of fun.

Also, if Michael knows Sarek, then she'll probably be aware of Spock. I wonder if any of the movie actors will make cameos, considering Kirk and Spock would be active at this time.

it's set 10 years before the movies specifically to avoid ever showing anyone

maybe pike can show up

Love Stole the Day
Nov 4, 2012
Please give me free quality professional advice so I can be a baby about it and insult you

numberoneposter posted:

Ep3 of The Orville is pretty good. Twist on some old themes. Good poo poo.

Mercer is an odd kind of Captain. He seems to let his crew do most of the work.

I know, right? Delegating work is so 20th century.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
I bet that Rainn Wilson is the new Harry Mudd

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

bitterandtwisted posted:

Is Harry Mudd going to be dark and brooding now?

no he's going to be some lovely Joker-knockoff character, probably after one of the producers watched Sherlock and thought "yeah you know every series needs its own Joker, because the Joker is the best villain ever and everyone loves a crazy madman that's always magically nine steps ahead of everyone else"

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

no he's going to be some lovely Joker-knockoff character, probably after one of the producers watched Sherlock and thought "yeah you know every series needs its own Joker, because the Joker is the best villain ever and everyone loves a crazy madman that's always magically nine steps ahead of everyone else"

False. He's going to be Dwight Schrute down to the mustard color clothing and oblong spectacles. Netflix got him cast based on their reams of demographic data. They know from Office reruns he puts asses in $11.99 per month seats.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


All the previews have made him look like a "Gets captured on purpose, devious schemer" type villain.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

shadow puppet of a posted:

False. He's going to be Dwight Schrute down to the mustard color clothing and oblong spectacles. Netflix got him cast based on their reams of demographic data. They know from Office reruns he puts asses in $11.99 per month seats.

I don't think Netflix had any say in the actual production, they just paid CBS a boatload of money for the right to stream the show outside the US.


That said I think it was this thread where someone pointed out "every Klingon ever is just a slightly buffer Dwight" so you might be on to something there :v:

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
I hope he mentions Quatloos at least five times per episode.

naem
May 29, 2011

Captain! ensign Jim put my tricorder in jello again

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Malthuras
Feb 23, 2012

Go away
I don't think I've hated a star trek character more than Kai Winn. I'll never understand how Sisko remotely put up with her.

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