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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

sleeptalker posted:

Nationalize video games.
Well, the end of the Mass Effect trilogy was the studio being forced to "fix" the ending by popular demand. Maybe that supports Matt's argument that the hobby fosters mass narcissism, but it's also really fitting for a series not-so-subtly preoccupied with corporate exploitation.

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Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






I always thought the torture sequence in GTA5 was probably the only semi-decent attempt at satire. The rest of the universe is just really poor parody.

I did love the Pisswasser commercial though, for being over the top in so many wonderful ways.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Videogames

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

The Rockstar Games writing staff all seem to be the contrarian "everyone sucks" libertarian dad type of dudes who're into Bill Hicks, George Carlin and Denis Leary and so when their attempts at social commentary aren't just toothless and clumsy, they're actively mean-spirited and punching down. The kind of edgy, uber-cynical poo poo that was big in the 90s.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
The working man's open world series is Saints Row

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Henchman of Santa posted:

The working man's open world series is Saints Row

At least you can take a couple of bullets in SR before you drop dead. I've been playing this GTA On-line the last few weeks, and my character is still incredibly fragile.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

TomViolence posted:

The Rockstar Games writing staff all seem to be the contrarian "everyone sucks" libertarian dad type of dudes who're into Bill Hicks, George Carlin and Denis Leary and so when their attempts at social commentary aren't just toothless and clumsy, they're actively mean-spirited and punching down. The kind of edgy, uber-cynical poo poo that was big in the 90s.

republican space rangers was pretty funny

though more accurately it should've been called republican and democrat space rangers

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
I find it strange that open-world games are such a magnet for attempts at comedic writing. I love Saints Row and GTA5, in spite of the validity of the criticisms of the latter. RDR simply filled out a niche in being an amazingly high-production-quality game of that genre that was, in the words of Wardell, 'serious A F, bra!'

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
RDR has some pretty funny poo poo in it to break up the tension though

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

I like the part where you get to sell snake oil

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
There's also an insanely tedious fetch quest where the reward is watching a guy jump off a cliff

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Henchman of Santa posted:

There's also an insanely tedious fetch quest where the reward is watching a guy jump off a cliff

Sounds like the kind of quests you got in Nier.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Apoplexy posted:

I find it strange that open-world games are such a magnet for attempts at comedic writing.
I guess the idea is that you can scatter in-jokes all over the place without diluting the main plot.

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



Halloween Jack posted:

I guess the idea is that you can scatter in-jokes all over the place without diluting the main plot.
I think also there's an idea that a lot of people don't take those games seriously at all, so might as well be funny because the tone isn't consistent. Like, half the players are going to just start driving over everyone on a sidewalk just because you can do that and it's I guess novel enough that it's fun. You can hire a prostitute and then shoot her and get your money back, isn't that CRAAAAZY?

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
The real reason to expect RDR2 to be an inferior sequel is the fact that Rockstar are going to be focusing heavily on the online multiplayer component. They make an absolute shitload of money with GTA online by selling in-game currency because for some reason people are okay with spending like 100 real dollars on super worthwhile and cool poo poo like a big yacht that literally does nothing but sit off shore

Why bother taking a risk on the single player when you can do some rote cowboy poo poo and focus your attention on hooking the whales

Serf
May 5, 2011


It didn't have all the modern lovely microtransactions but I legit had tons of fun with GTA4 and RDR multiplayer.

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



Bryter posted:

The real reason to expect RDR2 to be an inferior sequel is the fact that Rockstar are going to be focusing heavily on the online multiplayer component. They make an absolute shitload of money with GTA online by selling in-game currency because for some reason people are okay with spending like 100 real dollars on super worthwhile and cool poo poo like a big yacht that literally does nothing but sit off shore

Why bother taking a risk on the single player when you can do some rote cowboy poo poo and focus your attention on hooking the whales

I don't see how they can do the same in RDR2 without making it a steampunk mess. I don't know what old-timey stuff people are going to buy 23 Skidoo Cards or whateverthefuck for.

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

Skyscraper posted:

I don't see how they can do the same in RDR2 without making it a steampunk mess. I don't know what old-timey stuff people are going to buy 23 Skidoo Cards or whateverthefuck for.

I’m going to spend hundreds of real life dollars worth of in-game money playing poker with other players probably, so there’s that

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



goferchan posted:

I’m going to spend hundreds of real life dollars worth of in-game money playing poker with other players probably, so there’s that
You too can be a Wild West Tai Lopez

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

sexpig by night posted:

I'd argue it's more because GTA has always been the most clumsy, hamfisted, poorly done, 'social commentary' but 5 takes it even further by straight up having torture and poo poo be a thing you do between bouts of radio shows that boil down to "I'M A CELEB BUT I'M SOOOO DUMB" "HAHA WE LOVE YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SOOOOO DUMB" and somehow it got praised for being 'deep' because of it. Red Dead was a very slow, carefully paced, game where story and character development was kinda important and I literally cannot remember any GTA characters beyond a few names and the fact that Lamar was the one who did the "Nigga~" scene that made the internet love any chance to repost it for a month.

It's not so much that THE EVIL CORPORATION will crush the PURE ARTISTIC VISION as it is that Rockstar is genuinely terrible at writing and RDR was a lightning in a bottle situation that any attempt to redo will almost certainly suck.
Wasn't there trouble in development and that the people who somehow made that game work on scotch tape and dreams are no longer working in Rockstar?

Anyway I think the writing will be fine because the setting prevents a constant barrage of contrarian both sides are bad social/political commentary.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
They no longer have THE BENZ

CARL MARK FORCE IV
Sep 2, 2007

I took a walk. And threw up in an English garden.
Videogames

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Serf posted:

It didn't have all the modern lovely microtransactions but I legit had tons of fun with GTA4 and RDR multiplayer.
I wonder if those two things are related.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Felix is a very boring gamer. Virgil is probably more interesting.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Virgil is the main character of Persona 5.

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.
Will = Hanged Man
Felix = Chariot
Matt = Moon
Virgil = Temperance
Amber = Hermit

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/913937720677937152

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Chexoid posted:

Will = Hanged Man
Felix = Chariot
Matt = Moon
Virgil = Temperance
Amber = Hermit

I loving love you, and this, so much

E:
Brendan - Star

QuickbreathFinisher fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Sep 30, 2017

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Chexoid posted:

Will = Hanged Man
Felix = Chariot
Matt = Moon
Virgil = Temperance
Amber = Hermit

Gorka: The Devil

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

i liked the part of red dead where it turned out the feds only wanted you to take out your old gang because the leader was helping native american separatist movements

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Chexoid posted:

Will = Hanged Man
Felix = Chariot
Matt = Moon
Virgil = Temperance
Amber = Hermit

Persona 3:
Will: Magician
Felix: Hermit
Matt: Moon
Virgil: Sun
Amber: Tower
Brendan: Chariot

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Broke: Red Dead Redemption
Woke: Warlock

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

https://twitter.com/weedguy420boner/status/913939211589378050

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



Chexoid posted:

Will = Hanged Man
Felix = Chariot
Matt = Moon
Virgil = Temperance
Amber = Hermit
Thanks for this

Serf
May 5, 2011


Halloween Jack posted:

I wonder if those two things are related.

Possibly. I never played GTA5 multi too much due to work stuff. It was fun too, but I wasn't able to get very deep into it.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!
Hoping Puerto Rico is tomorrow’s episode’s focus. Just read a little about the board that Obama setup to “help”them and the bullshit they could and did do. loving gross what we’ve done and what we’re doing.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~
https://twitter.com/jayplaysthings/status/914124960150511616

sleeptalker posted:

Nationalize video games.

This, but unironically

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010
a cool tweet about that alt-right comic book

https://twitter.com/JinjerZilla/status/913726168125378561

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Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
the best genes

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