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So Math posted:Incidentally, VCV Rack, a virtual modular system, just launched with some Mutable Instruments clone modules among others. (https://vcvrack.com/) Seems like a nice way to try it out for free. Kinda surprised this is the only mention of VCV Rack in the thread. I've been playing with it this week and it's really neat. It's still in very early stages and only v.0.3.2 but it's already really fun to play around with. It's free and open source, works on MacOS/Windows/Linux, source is on GitHub, and it already has a bunch of free modules. Available modules include clones of most of the Mutable stuff (Braids, Elements, Tides, Clouds, Warps, Rings, etc), a bunch of Befaco DIY stuff, and some "Fundamental" stuff like VCA, VCO, VCF, Delay, ADSR, an oscilloscope, a mixer, and a sequencer. I made a decent patch the other night and by the end there must've been ten grand worth of "modules". Here's a youtube video of some dude talking about it a bit and showing off some of what it can do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMxS5-4U-c Honestly though, it's more fun to just start loving around with. It's not going to be replacing anyone's hardware synths but it's pretty cool and the price is right. The dev has already released 2 updates in the 3 weeks it's been out, so it'll hopefully keep getting better. I think it could also be a really cool tool for teaching synthesis fundamentals. Here's a screenshot of a crappy little patch I slapped together in 5 mins to have something to take a screenshot of: 
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Skeletron posted:What up y'all, it's been a while but I just released my first collection of bleeps and bloops on Beer on the Rug. What was the process like for you, from writing to getting it signed and released? Since thats a huge question, I'm wondering I guess - how did you and the label find each other? Were they the only people you talked to or? Did you write it as an album and then shop it around? Or was there back and forth involved? Did they do any mastering or anything for you? I'd love as much detail as you have time for but no worries if that ends up being "not that much"
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I stopped at Goodwill on the way to the grocery store today and found this. Anyone know anything about it? A quick google search shows that one sold on Reverb for $800 last month, so buying it was a no brainer. I was planning on selling it, then got home and tested it out. It actually sounds really loving good. 
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that multivox is cool becuase its not really a copy of anything per se the only thing i know is that they tend to fall apart if you try to play them, i think that one has aftertouch as well? e. multivox just rebadged that from firstman(?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmn1Mwy6Eac Clavavisage fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Clavavisage posted:that multivox is cool becuase its not really a copy of anything per se Yeah, I've been playing around with it a bit and the "touch sensor effect" seems to be aftertouch.
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Clavavisage posted:that multivox is cool becuase its not really a copy of anything per se This vid is incredible. Just sayin'.
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drat dude, what a find. Does that thing have a way to modify the envelope beyond those two switches?
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rickiep00h posted:This vid is incredible. Just sayin'. the singer girl is the daughter of the guy in charge of the rebranding, they made a whole album as a product demo at the time
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For fucks sake why is KVR like this
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Muff's is back up.
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Plavski posted:OP-1 ordered. That should keep me quiet for a month or two until the Digitakt is back in stock. Then all I need is a new audio interface to support the gear. And then all I need is a... I ordered one too. What a fun little device. I take it on my lunch break and just noodle around. I am super happy with the purchase so far. The Digitakt looks fun too.
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he1ixx posted:I ordered one too. What a fun little device. I take it on my lunch break and just noodle around. I am super happy with the purchase so far. The Digitakt looks fun too. The OP-1 basically cured my gearlust. It's the ultimate noodling playground. I always have it near me around the house and it's so great for just flicking on and having fun for an hour. I especially love deconstructing a simple melody through some of the crazier effects (love the cow!).
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Lawen posted:Kinda surprised this is the only mention of VCV Rack in the thread. I've been playing with it this week and it's really neat. It's still in very early stages and only v.0.3.2 but it's already really fun to play around with. It's free and open source, works on MacOS/Windows/Linux, source is on GitHub, and it already has a bunch of free modules. There's some utility stuff and a drum module here, too. Also a €5 blank tile. Glad to see they have a sense of humor.
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Plavski posted:The OP-1 basically cured my gearlust. It's the ultimate noodling playground. I always have it near me around the house and it's so great for just flicking on and having fun for an hour. I especially love deconstructing a simple melody through some of the crazier effects (love the cow!). Same here. I still lust after gear but this little device has been a constant companion. I have a TON to learn about it but videos like Red Means Recording have been huge for me.
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MI has discontinued Clouds, to the surprise of no one. Kind of wondering if anything will be left at this point.
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He wrote some nice words about it's history here - https://www.facebook.com/mutable.instruments/posts/1423657734415629 edit: Notable, on upcoming modules - " Discontinuing Braids, Peaks and Clouds left major gaps in the "Sound generation", "Modulation generation" and "Sound processing" departments." edit2: someone said "Officially reserved for whatever comes next..." with a picture of some blank panels in their rack. Oliver replied - "You need 12, 14, 18, 14 and 18 HPs" cubicle gangster fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Tayter Swift posted:MI has discontinued Clouds, to the surprise of no one. Kind of wondering if anything will be left at this point. their analog modules are great, i plugged kinks in backwards once and it didnt even mind kinky  somebody liked a vid on my instagram that showed clouds in my rack, id almost forgot about playing with it! its sound didnt suit me, but im a knob per function freak and i had no issue operating its different modes
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Haha wow, that ghettosynth character... hard to tell but I think he's trolling? Not very well in any event
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You guys and ladies have any sugggestions for discussion/resources for general/platform-independent synthesis? I've been into Pure Data lately but the community around it moves fairly slowly.
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Hi ppl, I'm a newbie but I'm looking to get a nice analog synth. My question is, I'm probably gonna get a microbrute because it looks pretty straightforward and fun to play but is there a good argument I might want something a little less 'entry level' like an ms-20 mini? I see the benefits there being a bigger keyboard (though I can always just get an external midi controller if I'm not satisfied with the 25 keys on the microbrute I guess) and the obviously robust patch/routing interface but would that be too overwhelming if my main goal here is to be able to jump in and start making cool bleepbloops? It would also be like maybe close to twice the price and idk if I'm down to drop four hundo on a new toy rn. Another question is, monophonic is probably easier for a beginner I would think but am I possibly wrong there, or is polyphonic something I should consider aka a minilogue or whatever? Something with a built in vocoder might be cool since I wanna do my own vocals but that's not a big consideration and it might just be cheaper/more practical to get a microbrute plus an external mic setup. Thanks god bless xoxo
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"bigger keyboard" is kinda moot with a mono honestly but ymmv. i'd say it's more useful with a poly where you can play actual chords monophonic subtractive synths (ie microbrute, monologue) are great beginner synths, you can always get a poly down the line if you like the hobby!!
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I would say it's less about mono/poly and more about if it has any built in effects and a sequencer my ms-20 is nice but doesn't really come alive until I throw delay/reverb at it and the same thing happened when I had a minibrute and even just hooking an sq-1 up to the ms-20 is a massive improvement in what you can get out of it without one I still think the minilogue is the best starter synth out there right now just because it has a decent sequencer, plus effects, plus the oscilloscope, and 4 voices so you can grow into it after a while
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Mess with free vsts until you know what you want out of synthesis You'll answer questions like keys/sequencing/mono/poly/what about synthesis you actually enjoy/if you enjoy it much quicker (and cheaper) than by buying-and-trying. If money is at all something you care about, for the love of god, buy used. e: definitely don't worry about effects until you've exhausted whatever comes free with the unlimited trial Reaper license
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AverySpecialfriend posted:Hi ppl, I'm a newbie but I'm looking to get a nice analog synth. My question is, I'm probably gonna get a microbrute because it looks pretty straightforward and fun to play but is there a good argument I might want something a little less 'entry level' like an ms-20 mini? I see the benefits there being a bigger keyboard (though I can always just get an external midi controller if I'm not satisfied with the 25 keys on the microbrute I guess) and the obviously robust patch/routing interface but would that be too overwhelming if my main goal here is to be able to jump in and start making cool bleepbloops? It would also be like maybe close to twice the price and idk if I'm down to drop four hundo on a new toy rn. Another question is, monophonic is probably easier for a beginner I would think but am I possibly wrong there, or is polyphonic something I should consider aka a minilogue or whatever? Something with a built in vocoder might be cool since I wanna do my own vocals but that's not a big consideration and it might just be cheaper/more practical to get a microbrute plus an external mic setup. Thanks god bless xoxo Bass station2, or dont worry about "analog" and find cheap things like kawais or yamaha tg types that have cool modulation possibilites Nah just stick to vsts, theyre just as good as hardware at this point
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JamesKPolk posted:Mess with free vsts until you know what you want out of synthesis I want to twist knobs, with my fingers Gringostar posted:I would say it's less about mono/poly and more about if it has any built in effects and a sequencer I have oscope related trauma (but that's still forreal sick if u can actually see the waveform) e: also I don't care if it has a suboscillator or not if I can run my bass thru it which I hear u can do with the microbrute AverySpecialfriend fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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oh yeah you should definitely get a cheapo delay/reverb stompbox to run it through, maybe a chorus. get some used behringers or whatever is dirt cheap but passable these days
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AverySpecialfriend posted:I want to twist knobs, with my fingers almost any synth with an external signal in can run stuff through it as for a vocoder, the only synths that have that right now are the jd xa/jd xi, microkorg, and the two novation things roland makes two dedicated ones, one for the aira line and one for the boutique line
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AverySpecialfriend posted:I want to twist knobs, with my fingers quote:I have oscope related trauma (but that's still forreal sick if u can actually see the waveform) quote:e: also I don't care if it has a suboscillator or not if I can run my bass thru it which I hear u can do with the microbrute Another vote for the Minilogue. If you are looking at MS20 reissue prices, I recently got an ARP Odyssey reissue module, combined with a controller you get a pretty dang awesome monosynth. It’s also cool but doesn’t do patching. But yes, reverb/delay are recommended. Also vocoders usually mean there is something digital in there, unless it’s a dedicated unit, and even then. The JD-Xi is a really weird and almost unique hybrid in that sense. Laserjet 4P fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Gringostar posted:almost any synth with an external signal in can run stuff through it In retrospect, the KingKorg is pretty good for a VA, and it's on that list. A better option if you want a MicroKorg but more.
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I was going to suggest the KingKORG as well. I don't think I've ever seen anyone use its vocoder, but it can do it. Korg didn't bundle a mic in the box like they did with the microKORG series, so you need to bring your own in order to make that function work. At ~$650 used, the KingKorg is still a decent bit above his original price range. A used/on-sale Minilogue is probably the best all-around option at ~$400. Edit: Cory Henry usually plays a Moog live with Snarky Puppy, but the synth solo on the recorded version of "Lingus" was done on a KingKORG. Know Such Peace fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Yeah I missed the price point. Here's the built-in Mr. Blue Sky preset (forget what it's called) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqPPk-dvHM
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Learn pure data or supercollider for zero bucks, bank of midi knobs for $60, cheap keyboard that outputs midi from a thrift store or pawn shop for $20, twiddle knobs and the sky's the limit
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Dr. Video Games 0081 posted:Learn pure data or supercollider for zero bucks, bank of midi knobs for $60, cheap keyboard that outputs midi from a thrift store or pawn shop for $20, twiddle knobs and the sky's the limit This is only cheap if your time is cheap
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Laserjet 4P posted:This is only cheap if your time is cheap Which it probably is if you're getting into synthesizers
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I've been having a lot of fun messing with the ring modulator on my Monologue. However, some of the coolest sounds I've made also ended up being wayyyy out of tune. Is this typical? What's the standard way to put the sound back in tune once I've recorded to my DAW? Also, does one constant pitch correction do the trick for ring modulated patches, or does the pitch offset depend on which note I play? I wish I understood ring mod better.
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In general, yes, that happens. Ring mod is modulating one sound (the carrier oscillator) with another (the modulation oscillator) in a way that produces side bands (sound other than the root note) at the sum and difference of the frequency of the mod and carrier waves. I'm not 100% sure on how the Monologue operates but my guess is one osc is carrying and one osc is modding, and both are gonna be tracking the key you play (and be tunable from there). This is, unfortunately, gonna result in weird stuff cause notes don't scale linearly. There's not a way to fix it after the fact, either - you gotta plan ahead. A tip from the guitar world is to tune the mod osc to the tonic of the sequence you're gonna play, so all the extra stuff you get sounds related to that. Check out Sound on Sound's Synth Secrets: 12, 13, or 14 (I forget which but its one of the modulation ones) goes into it in detail. Someone re-hosted it here. https://github.com/micjamking/synth-secrets e: this actually all might be wrong cause Korg has historically implemented a "ring mod" sound as an XOR operation between 2 square oscillators (which sounds similar but isn't the same). Not sure if they went that way or not. JamesKPolk fucked around with this message at 07:18 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Most DAWs have a way to change the pitch of the recording without changing its length. You could also rerecord and adjust the Monologue's global tuning from the first page of the global menu so that the notes on the keyboard are in tune again. Just remember to put it back after you're finished. I just checked, and the ring modded signal responds to changing the oscillator wave and shape, so I think it's safe to assume the Monologue has a "proper" ring mod circuit.
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Clavavisage posted:System1 and 1m prices seem to be crashing right now and all of the plugouts can be found in various I'd still highly recommend this thing. It's one of the most fun, cheap synths to fiddle with that I own. My MS-20 kind of crushes it in that respect but the sounds the System-1 can make are remarkable.
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Thanks y'all for the insight on ring mod. Btw I just realized that the monologue allows changing the tuning for each individual note, so I guess technically I could use that to help correct when one global tuning doesn't do the trick (due to the nonlinearity mentioned above) e: that synth secrets link is amazing, thank you! It turned out that, this whole time, I thought ring mod was a kind of FM when it's actually a form of AM (which has equations I can totally understand!). giogadi fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Shouldn't the ring modded signal track properly if both oscillators are tracking the keyboard? Your sidebands are S1 = O1 - O2 S2 = O1 + O2. Going up, say, an octave replaces O1 by 2*O1 and O2 by 2*O2, so the new sidebands are 2*O1 - 2*O2 = 2*S1 2*O1 + 2*O2 = 2*S2, exactly one octave above the old sidebands. At any rate, it sounded to be tracking fine on my Monologue, even if playing an A didn't make 440 Hz come out. Tracking issues show up when one of the input signals is fixed, like in a guitar pedal, and that's when it helps to tune the modulator to the tonic of your scale.
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