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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


bongwizzard posted:



The generic term is "bladed jig". It is less of a jig and more of a spinnerbait/squarebill crank hybrid and and can take the place of both. Z-Man invented them and holds the patent, but there are a ton of other versions out there, many better than the original.

I, being old and out of touch, did not know about the porn site of almost the same name until last winter when I first got interested in the lure. That was a real interesting typo.

looks complicated as hell. I may try one out.

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joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
It's not! You just slap on a trailer, then chuck and wind. They're fun, lots of vibration so it's exciting even when you're not catching a fish!

Chaosfeather
Nov 4, 2008

Due to job situations I am unable to go on my fly fishing trip this year. Please catch more trout in my name!

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
It's almost trout season in San Diego!! I just got back into fishing within the last year, I missed almost all of it last year.

Here's a fish I caught on Saturday. Nothin like throwing the frog!

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

joem83 posted:

It's not! You just slap on a trailer, then chuck and wind. They're fun, lots of vibration so it's exciting even when you're not catching a fish!

The lots of vibration killed me before I beefed up my gear, my hands felt the same is if I had used a weedwhacker all day.

They also suck ( compared to a spinnerbait) around woody cover, they really seem to roll and snag more in that situation, otherwise I am really starting to prefer them for slow/deep fishing.

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
I was fishing those Scum brand frogs last weekend. They're honestly not bad for the $6 they cost. They don't walk very easily though, at least compared to a R2S spittin' wa or a Spro spittin shad.

Also, re: chatter bait chat, I had a period where I lost a bunch of them. Felt like they got nasty snags. I'm afraid to fish then most of the time, I just see dollar signs lol.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

joem83 posted:

I was fishing those Scum brand frogs last weekend. They're honestly not bad for the $6 they cost. They don't walk very easily though, at least compared to a R2S spittin' wa or a Spro spittin shad.

Also, re: chatter bait chat, I had a period where I lost a bunch of them. Felt like they got nasty snags. I'm afraid to fish then most of the time, I just see dollar signs lol.

I am hopeless with walking a frog, it's something I plan on working on over the winter when I get sick of s l o w l y dragging a jig around. People seem to love the Scum frogs, they look like a bootleg toy from a dollar store, but like, a bass will only see the bottom of a frog silhouetted against the surface of the water, I refuse to believe the appearance of one matters much. The only thing about them that gives me pause is how firm the plastic feels in relation to more expensive frogs, but I have so little experience with them idk what really matters. Some guys seem to only care about how the hooks relate to the lure body to the exclusion of much else.

Chatterbaits; I used to avoid hardbaits in general for fear of snags, but I have found that so long as you have a sense of where you are throwing and the mental training to try and work out a snag, you will not lose too many lures overall. I bought like a dozen chatterbaits last spring, fished them pretty regularly, and I think I still have maybe 7-8 left. They are very unforgiving for any bad cast that gets them into trees or brush, there are so many parts to get tangled up that I think I have only lost 1-2 of mine underwater and the rest to getting cocky and casting too close to cover.

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
The Scum frogs are most definitely super cheap feeling/looking but they do have some merits. The hooks are already pointed up and out, and the skirts are short. They don't take much water on, either. I'm not sure if I'll keep buying them but I can't find anything bad to say other than that they walk lovely. I've found that popping frogs walk easier, try out the R2S Spittin Wa, it's a sweet frog.

Good alternative to a chatter b is a swim jig! I like those.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Every jig is a swimjig if you are impatient enough.

I like them too. My jig-love is still pretty new but I am kinda excited for winter.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

joem83 posted:

The hooks are already pointed up and out, and the skirts are short. They don't take much water on, either.

That all seems to be the usual praise they get.

A lot of my frog-issues are rod related. I got one with a long (very long compared to most of my rods) butt section and I can't don anything with it. It is also like 5" longer then my next longest rod. I need to put more time in on it so this winter I am going to, fruitlessly, practice with it when I get too twitchy to fish a swimbait, which I use the same combo for.

Danthrax
Jul 11, 2006

Hi fish pic thread!

Tampa Bay, Florida
Redfish (haven't caught one yet), Snapper, Speckled Trout, Pompano, Sheepshead, whatever I can get
Usually use live shrimp or chubs (or greenbacks if I'm at the Skyway pier and can catch some). Haven't had much success with lures. Have a bunch that are supposed to be great so I'm guessing it's me not going to good spots at good times.

I go out in my kayaks when I get the chance, I also try the piers at the Skyway bridge. Hoping to try shoreline/surf fishing in the future, maybe make some trips to the east coast. I like fishing but I'm not very good at it. I mostly catch gafftopsail and hardhead catfish, which aren't much fun or great to eat (gafftops are tasty but a pain to clean). Here are some fish/critters I've caught/found during my adventures over the past year. Hope you enjoy them!

Only snook I've ever caught


Stingray


~11' Jack Crevalle


4 ladyfish (fun to catch!) I kept to use as bait for snook/goliath groupers (hurricane Irma knocked out my power for a couple days so I threw them out along with the rest of my freezer's contents). The cooler's dimensions are about 2' x 1' on the inside if I had to guess.


Had this ladyfish on a stringer on my kayak, felt a strong bump, went to check on the fish a bit later and saw this


Hermit Crab


Spider Crab (hated being picked up)


Ghost Crab (also hated being picked up)
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Horseshoe Crab shell I found & kept


Tiny hermit crabs


Baby crab on the bottom of a sand dollar


And an unbelievably lovely gif of a 27-inch bonnethead shark, the biggest fish I've ever caught. Sitting in a kayak and reeling in a shark is a pretty exciting event, it's hard to fight the fish and hold the phone for video at the same time.

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

Those are some great pictures.

If you want to try lures, my parents swear by the silver got-cha plugs when the Spanish mackerel gather near the skyway piers (I think in the wintertime?).

Fishing is great on the east coast too. Down south we have really easy access to the reef less than a mile off shore. I definitely suggest making a trip over.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.

Danthrax posted:

Hi fish pic thread!

Tampa Bay, Florida
Redfish (haven't caught one yet), Snapper, Speckled Trout, Pompano, Sheepshead, whatever I can get
Usually use live shrimp or chubs (or greenbacks if I'm at the Skyway pier and can catch some). Haven't had much success with lures. Have a bunch that are supposed to be great so I'm guessing it's me not going to good spots at good times.


If you don't feel like fighting the traffic at Weedon Island, I always put in at Gandy Beach next to the Getaway and paddle straight out to the mangroves. I caught 7 reds out there a couple weeks ago and have brought in a hand full of snook as well. The place is always teeming with Snapper and Sheepshead.

Still have yet to catch any jack or trout though. Also would love to go after small shark but don't even know where to begin.

Danthrax
Jul 11, 2006

Enigma posted:

Those are some great pictures.

If you want to try lures, my parents swear by the silver got-cha plugs when the Spanish mackerel gather near the skyway piers (I think in the wintertime?).

Fishing is great on the east coast too. Down south we have really easy access to the reef less than a mile off shore. I definitely suggest making a trip over.

Thanks! I have things like gold spoons, DOA shrimp & popping cork, mirrolure minnows, a couple super spook jrs, soft dog, and gulp shrimp. I've had hits on the gulp and super spooks so I know they can attract fish, and I've caught pinfish and a small mutton snapper with my pompano jig setup. I have a silver spoon for mackerel, gotta remember to retrieve it fast. I'll try to get more trips there this winter. There are usually dolphins hanging around the piers which gets discouraging. East/south trips probably won't happen until springtime at the earliest, I was thinking Pompano Beach/Fort Lauderdale area. Would love to go down to the Keys too, haven't been since I was 12 and that was for (an amazing) scuba diving trip with my aunt.

TheBizzness posted:

If you don't feel like fighting the traffic at Weedon Island, I always put in at Gandy Beach next to the Getaway and paddle straight out to the mangroves. I caught 7 reds out there a couple weeks ago and have brought in a hand full of snook as well. The place is always teeming with Snapper and Sheepshead.

Still have yet to catch any jack or trout though. Also would love to go after small shark but don't even know where to begin.

Weedon's not too bad on weekdays (sheepshead city!), both it and Gandy Beach are 5 minutes from my apartment. You're talking about the mangroves by the restaurant/marina, or out towards the power plant? The manatees by the plant startled me last winter, I wasn't expecting them and all of a sudden there's this giant thing underneath me. I usually put in on 4th street and go out north side of the Howard Franklin. That's where I caught the ladyfish and a couple bonnetheads, and I've hooked up on some nice trout/reds but they've always shake free before I can call them "caught."

The jack was on a live shrimp at the north Skyway pier, the trout I've hooked on have been with live shrimp or chubs in the winter. The shark in the gif was on a live shrimp, I've caught another with the same and a third (my first ever, broke the tip of my cheapo Wal-Mart rod) was caught with a frozen finger mullet.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.

Danthrax posted:

Thanks! I have things like gold spoons, DOA shrimp & popping cork, mirrolure minnows, a couple super spook jrs, soft dog, and gulp shrimp. I've had hits on the gulp and super spooks so I know they can attract fish, and I've caught pinfish and a small mutton snapper with my pompano jig setup. I have a silver spoon for mackerel, gotta remember to retrieve it fast. I'll try to get more trips there this winter. There are usually dolphins hanging around the piers which gets discouraging. East/south trips probably won't happen until springtime at the earliest, I was thinking Pompano Beach/Fort Lauderdale area. Would love to go down to the Keys too, haven't been since I was 12 and that was for (an amazing) scuba diving trip with my aunt.


Weedon's not too bad on weekdays (sheepshead city!), both it and Gandy Beach are 5 minutes from my apartment. You're talking about the mangroves by the restaurant/marina, or out towards the power plant? The manatees by the plant startled me last winter, I wasn't expecting them and all of a sudden there's this giant thing underneath me. I usually put in on 4th street and go out north side of the Howard Franklin. That's where I caught the ladyfish and a couple bonnetheads, and I've hooked up on some nice trout/reds but they've always shake free before I can call them "caught."

The jack was on a live shrimp at the north Skyway pier, the trout I've hooked on have been with live shrimp or chubs in the winter. The shark in the gif was on a live shrimp, I've caught another with the same and a third (my first ever, broke the tip of my cheapo Wal-Mart rod) was caught with a frozen finger mullet.

The side by the restaurant/marina. The only thing I've ever caught on the power plant side is multiple sting ray and a lady fish once. The mouth of the power plant can be good fishing but the water moves fast and anchoring my kayak can be difficult.

I know exactly where you mean on 4th. Lots and lots of catfish over. It does have a great reputation, Just haven't had a lot of luck there personally.

Enigma
Jun 10, 2003
Raetus Deus Est.

Danthrax posted:

Thanks! I have things like gold spoons, DOA shrimp & popping cork, mirrolure minnows, a couple super spook jrs, soft dog, and gulp shrimp. I've had hits on the gulp and super spooks so I know they can attract fish, and I've caught pinfish and a small mutton snapper with my pompano jig setup. I have a silver spoon for mackerel, gotta remember to retrieve it fast. I'll try to get more trips there this winter. There are usually dolphins hanging around the piers which gets discouraging. East/south trips probably won't happen until springtime at the earliest, I was thinking Pompano Beach/Fort Lauderdale area. Would love to go down to the Keys too, haven't been since I was 12 and that was for (an amazing) scuba diving trip with my aunt.

I don't have a boat or kayak, so my experience offshore is limited to head boats. I've had the best luck out of Jupiter. The water down here (Broward) seems like it would be a bit choppy for a kayak in the fall/winter, but late spring and summer it calms down a lot.

I would double check on when the mackerel show up. They migrate to stay in warmer water and tend to show up down here in January, so they may be in your area a bit sooner than that.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007





I caught this 11" son of a bitch on a Ned Rig in a park in the middle of Seattle, and I can finally post in this thread! I am very proud, and very grateful to Mssr. Bongwizzard for turning me on to the Ned Rig. It catches hella bass and the occasional trout, too!

On Saturday I'm going to the coast to stand in the surf to fish for Red Tails. I am so loving excited to get back in my waders.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

Nice work my friend

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


A Pack of Kobolds posted:



I caught this 11" son of a bitch on a Ned Rig in a park in the middle of Seattle, and I can finally post in this thread! I am very proud, and very grateful to Mssr. Bongwizzard for turning me on to the Ned Rig. It catches hella bass and the occasional trout, too!

On Saturday I'm going to the coast to stand in the surf to fish for Red Tails. I am so loving excited to get back in my waders.

Oh? Where? I'm in port orchard squidding n stuff.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

A Pack of Kobolds posted:



I caught this 11" son of a bitch on a Ned Rig in a park in the middle of Seattle, and I can finally post in this thread! I am very proud, and very grateful to Mssr. Bongwizzard for turning me on to the Ned Rig. It catches hella bass and the occasional trout, too!

On Saturday I'm going to the coast to stand in the surf to fish for Red Tails. I am so loving excited to get back in my waders.

Fancy stuff dude!

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.

A Pack of Kobolds posted:



I caught this 11" son of a bitch on a Ned Rig in a park in the middle of Seattle, and I can finally post in this thread! I am very proud, and very grateful to Mssr. Bongwizzard for turning me on to the Ned Rig. It catches hella bass and the occasional trout, too!

On Saturday I'm going to the coast to stand in the surf to fish for Red Tails. I am so loving excited to get back in my waders.

Nice fish man! Can we get a trip report on the flavor of the meats?

Crazy that you caught him on a ned rig. Although I was watching this youtube fisherman from the town where I grew up, and he caught a trout on a wacky ricked senko, so I guess anything is possible!

Trauma Dog 3000
Aug 30, 2017

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joem83 posted:

Nice fish man! Can we get a trip report on the flavor of the meats?

Crazy that you caught him on a ned rig. Although I was watching this youtube fisherman from the town where I grew up, and he caught a trout on a wacky ricked senko, so I guess anything is possible!

yeah, how good does city fish taste?

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



The trout tasted exceptional. I dredged it in seasoned flour and fried it in butter, whole. The meat was very sweet and picked cleanly off the bones. City Trout: A+, would eat every day (and the health advisories say that I could, too!).

I caught it in Green Lake in Seattle, which is a total gem. It has a three mile walking path around it which is very popular, but hardly anybody fishes it outside of the weeks immediately after WDFW stocks it. By this time of year the stockies usually get relatively big. This may be the largest rainbow trout I've ever caught, having grown up fishing in fast, shallow mountain rivers in Idaho. Here were some of the small bass that I caught leading up to it:


This little butthole almost hooked himself in the eye. I got the hook out and there didn't appear to be much damage, but I wonder if I should have just put it out of its misery.


Probably the largest I caught that morning, but you can't tell from the perspective.


The blurriest smallmouth (I think?)


I stopped taking pics after this one, but they kept biting.

All hail the ned rig! Also it's worth mentioning that I was fishing off of a pier and it was not possible to keep the fish in the water to dehook them. I wetted my hands before handling and they were out of the water for as little time as they could possibly be.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



LingcodKilla posted:

Oh? Where? I'm in port orchard squidding n stuff.

I am ordering squid jigs today! I'm considering picking up a spotlight or something at Harbor Freight as well. In addition to being delicious, squid are good surfperch bait. As are razor clam feet. gently caress I want razor clams now.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


A Pack of Kobolds posted:

I am ordering squid jigs today! I'm considering picking up a spotlight or something at Harbor Freight as well. In addition to being delicious, squid are good surfperch bait. As are razor clam feet. gently caress I want razor clams now.

I caught over 3lbs of squid last night at Harpers Pier in 30 minutes.

Mmmm.

joem83
Oct 4, 2007

Sometimes, you have to shake it thrice.
Squids, like trouts, are also delicious meats. Man I cannot wait for trout season here in San Diego. I'm gonna treat myself to a new rod and reel before the season starts. I think I'm gonna get a Daiwa Presso rod for maximum mini jig casting, the trout love them here.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
Squid jigs are hosed up looking, so many little hooks to stick myself with.

I would love to give surf fishing a go but apparently the western shore of the Chesapeake is garbage for it and if I am gonna drive three hours to fish I am going north into smallmouth country.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


While sharp they have no barbs so they slide out of flesh easy.

Ask me how I know!

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bongwizzard posted:

Squid jigs are hosed up looking, so many little hooks to stick myself with.

I'd take a squid jig in the thumb over treble hooks any day of the week

What brand of jigs are popular in the states?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


gay picnic defence posted:

I'd take a squid jig in the thumb over treble hooks any day of the week

What brand of jigs are popular in the states?

The most popular ones in the Puget sound are home made small ones with a really big skirt of needles. We have a pretty interesting cottage industry of people making them then selling them at the docks. Most will special order whatever design you want.

An example of one guys jigs. The smalls are 1/2 oz and the bigs are 1 oz

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LingcodKilla posted:

The most popular ones in the Puget sound are home made small ones with a really big skirt of needles. We have a pretty interesting cottage industry of people making them then selling them at the docks. Most will special order whatever design you want.

An example of one guys jigs. The smalls are 1/2 oz and the bigs are 1 oz



That's cool. How do you work a jig like that?

It'd be interesting to try one of those style jigs here. Most people here use those Japanese prawn style jigs and no one really questions whether or not it is the most effective way so maybe it's just really good marketing by the Japanese.
This one in particular is lethal: https://japanlureshop.com/yamashita-egi-oh-q-live-3-0-n08-numg-silver-base-9909.html

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


You go to a dock at night and place a light over the edge then dip the jigs a few down and wait for a bump and raise the rod. It's ludicrously easy.

Trauma Dog 3000
Aug 30, 2017

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LingcodKilla posted:

You go to a dock at night and place a light over the edge then dip the jigs a few down and wait for a bump and raise the rod. It's ludicrously easy.

the downside is that you have to eat squid

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Trauma Dog 3000 posted:

the downside is that you have to eat squid

Use them for bait. Most fish here will have a crack at a strip of squid.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
I had a busy spring/summer this year. Mainly like catching walleyes and perch for eating.

Some Waldos






Musky tried to steal this one.


Sheephead. The derp fish.



Round Gobys :doh:


Log perch


Bluegills


Channel cat


White bass


A pair of Gar Pikes





Been a good year for my first one out.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Trauma Dog 3000 posted:

the downside is that you have to eat squid

This boy ain't right.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer
How are you eating all this squid? The only ways I know are grilling/frying and dipping in something.

Next season one of my goals is to keep and eat more fish. When the season is on I can more or less catch all the white perch I could ever want and if I can stomach trolling it seems like keeper rocks and blues would be pretty easy as well. The only freshwater fish that sounds appealing is crappie, but I would rather let all the old guys get those so they leave the bass alone. I wanna buy a big rear end propane fryer rig and have a fish-fry and some poo poo.

Gumbel2Gumbel
Apr 28, 2010

bongwizzard posted:

How are you eating all this squid? The only ways I know are grilling/frying and dipping in something.

Next season one of my goals is to keep and eat more fish. When the season is on I can more or less catch all the white perch I could ever want and if I can stomach trolling it seems like keeper rocks and blues would be pretty easy as well. The only freshwater fish that sounds appealing is crappie, but I would rather let all the old guys get those so they leave the bass alone. I wanna buy a big rear end propane fryer rig and have a fish-fry and some poo poo.

I ate a 2lb bass and it was pretty good, man. It was very clean and light.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"
Grimey Drawer

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

I ate a 2lb bass and it was pretty good, man. It was very clean and light.

I like the big dumb things too much to eat them.

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bongwizzard posted:

How are you eating all this squid? The only ways I know are grilling/frying and dipping in something.

Next season one of my goals is to keep and eat more fish. When the season is on I can more or less catch all the white perch I could ever want and if I can stomach trolling it seems like keeper rocks and blues would be pretty easy as well. The only freshwater fish that sounds appealing is crappie, but I would rather let all the old guys get those so they leave the bass alone. I wanna buy a big rear end propane fryer rig and have a fish-fry and some poo poo.

Coat the squid bits in batter, bread crumbs or marinate as appropriate and grill, BBQ or fry at a high temp for just a minute each side, or stuff the hoods or put chunks in a stew or soup or whatever and cook low and slow until it's tender. It can be a good idea to soak larger squid in milk or something overnight to help tenderise them.

Trout are pretty tasty as far as freshwater fish go, especially if they have been eating a lot of minnows. Stream trout that eat a lot of insects haven't tasted as nice in my experience. There's a bunch of different ways of cooking them but smoking them is pretty amazing. If you have redfin perch/English perch around they are very nice too.

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