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im the guy with 170 hours in Elite who's never fired a shot in anger 
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DatonKallandor posted:Okay so it pays like poo poo. I guess I shouldn't have expected better. lol if you're doing it for payouts, just loving lol Arach posted:This is cool and sounds like fun. I don't care about territory or whatever, I went from neutral to "these guys should probably be stopped" when I began to personally witness them abducting escape pods. Even Picard would fire in that situation.
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Sep 29, 2017 20:29
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Note that Canonn and other parties interested in "peace" with the bugs have been deliberately giving them escape pods rather than delivering them to their local SAR officers. Kill them all - bugs and their sympathizers alike. 
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Sep 29, 2017 20:35
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CapnBry posted:To be fair, some of us think we're going to do #1 but write down a list of the 18 things they need to seek out to unlock the engineer to unlock the engineer that lowers the weight of our sensors, spend the rest of the night flying around randomly in VR without ever encountering the first item, then go to bed logged out in the 53rd USS that didn't have just the right proto alloy in it, firmly in the #2 demographic. You are correct. It's loving moronic from a game design perspective, it's loving moronic from a game enjoyment perspectice, and it's loving moronic from a hard-core realism perspective. It's just loving moronic. The entire computer game part of Elite is just an endless series of fetch quests, and the "space sim" bit disregarding everything resembling interaction with missions, trade etc. is the only worthwhile thing in the game. It's a tech demo. It's a good tech demo with fantastic graphics, and that's why people play, but the design of everything beyond "go here, see the pretty thing and/or shoot at it" is frankly pathetic. Still like flying around in Elite though.
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Sep 29, 2017 20:38
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Right now I think Elite could really benefit from a series of static missions that function effectively like a single player campaign and tutorial. Have the missions run the gamut of mission types, have actual voice actors, and reveal to the player the thargoid storyline piece by piece. Actually pay the players a decent payout so they can get out of their starter ship. So by the time the player is done they A- Get some backstory B- Have some credits in their pocket and can buy a halfway decent ship. C- Understand how to do the various mission types. D- Actually feel like they accomplished something.
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Sep 29, 2017 21:53
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Eldragon posted:Frontier will look at this unexpected result and conclude: "Clearly this game requires more grind" Pls no, kill me now.
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Sep 29, 2017 22:22
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I feel like Frontier should take a good long look at how other MMOs guide their players along their experiences. Sure, a game like Final Fantasy XIV may be a very different sort of game, with a much more limited play area and with very different and more focused goals in terms of player interaction, but I still feel like there are lessons to be learned their in terms of guiding players towards a tangible thing to work towards, and creating instanced content meant for singular or small groups of individuals. Also, I am never taking another massacre mission again. "Go one system over and kill 24 ships for a 3 mil payout? Sure, sounds great! I'll just pop over into a conflict zone and be done with this in about 15 minutes!" Yeah, turns out conflict zone ships don't count, even though they belong to the targeted faction. There were no resource sites to camp in for pirates either, so I had to fly around interdicting and killing pirates one at a time, and it took me three goddamn hours. I could have made ten times the amount of money I did in that time if I'd just stuck with passenger missions. Valcione fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Sep 30, 2017 00:43
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People who play this game sure are whiny. In other news the new exploration route planning is even more good than I thought when you enable scoop neutrons. I also discovered a landable planet that was terraformable which I didn't think possible. Should hit Colonia on Sunday hopefully.
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Sep 30, 2017 01:01
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lemonadesweetheart posted:People who play this game sure are whiny. Whining is my favorite role in Elite tbh. But yeah, agreed. The neutron scoop feature is awesome. I compared a route with it on and off and it had a difference of 20+ jumps, which is pretty cool now that you don't have to manually route after charging. Do the Diamond Frogs still conduct any operations for Galcop faction out in Colonia or is the focus in the bubble? I'm about 7kly away from it, so that's a day or two for me as well.
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Sep 30, 2017 01:08
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Fojar38 posted:lol if you're doing it for payouts, just loving lol I've been entering the signal sources with thargoids in them and I will drop a random canister out of my hull anf the thargoid will drop everything its doing to check it out. That's when I make my move on the escape pod.
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Sep 30, 2017 01:41
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Eldragon posted:Right now I think Elite could really benefit from a series of static missions that function effectively like a single player campaign and tutorial. This would be fantastic. The more to shoot the better.
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Sep 30, 2017 02:19
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Anime Store Adventure posted:Whining is my favorite role in Elite tbh.
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Sep 30, 2017 04:36
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Inspector Hound posted:I don't read them very often because I haven't really looked up from my dashboard in general trying to plow cash into my account, but I definitely wish someone would spend an hour typing up some more comms chatter. How many space marriages is that guy going to put himself through before he realizes he's supposed to be space single I like to think this is some kind of societal right of passage: the space equivalent of a cliche like tying cans to the back of the car or
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Sep 30, 2017 05:22
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I'm just about ready to turn in roughly 200 systems worth of exploration from RtR. Should I drop it on Felicity? I have her at rank 4 FSD ATM. I did it without shields so my paint is nice and hosed. Looks great. clone on the phone fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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Sep 30, 2017 05:48
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This seems to be the new way to make money: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/73a21j/fuck_quince_if_you_want_credits_ill_show_you_the/
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Sep 30, 2017 06:13
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Knifegrab posted:This seems to be the new way to make money: lol...fdev are already nerfing it but it's still better than quince 
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Sep 30, 2017 06:35
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It's a shame making money is mostly about these loopholes or whatever you want to call them.
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Sep 30, 2017 06:47
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Frontier doesn't want you to succeed
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Sep 30, 2017 06:49
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So, I'm interested in fitting out a combat anaconda. Can anyone offer me any feedback on this particular build? https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/ana...gJskOKYoA%3D%3D
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Sep 30, 2017 10:26
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 Is this type of drydock structure new, or have I just not happened to see them while playing recently?
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Sep 30, 2017 11:14
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Katsuma posted:So, I'm interested in fitting out a combat anaconda. Can anyone offer me any feedback on this particular build? https://coriolis.edcd.io/outfit/ana...gJskOKYoA%3D%3D Is this for PVP or PVE? If it's PVE, I may recommend just going full dakka and all MCs. Other than that: drop the fuel tank, srv bay, afmu, and cargo racks and replace them with SCBs or HRP, A-rate the sensors and life support, then up-armor the hull with reactive surface composite (is that the de jure?). So mine looks more like this, but you'll need to roll a better power plant and re-engineer some of your weapons. For PVE I would also recommend efficient beams: they shoot forever. If you want to PVP, hit up the pvp channel in discord and you'll get better fitting advice. Breetai posted:
They put those in around 2.2, I think.
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Sep 30, 2017 14:41
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Seriously, why do they want us to grind so much? It's obvious that they do. When you make a player grind towards a goal you have to make sure that goal is worth it otherwise you get dissallusioned players.
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Sep 30, 2017 14:53
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I too would really like to know how they can take such a beautiful concept with super immersive and exciting spaceflight and run it into the ground so hard and so many times.
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Sep 30, 2017 16:21
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Like would it kill you to hire a designer or player experience lead or something on the level of your sound guys? Fucks sake.
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Sep 30, 2017 16:22
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Mimesweeper posted:Like would it kill you to hire a designer or player experience lead or something on the level of your sound guys? Fucks sake. This.
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Sep 30, 2017 18:36
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Mimesweeper posted:Like would it kill you to hire a designer or player experience lead or something on the level of your sound guys? Fucks sake.
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Sep 30, 2017 18:54
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I'm starting to think space games are unique in that they are only as good as how much devs ignore space game fans. That Reddit thread someone posted a few pages back where someone complained about not knowing what the gently caress was going on without checking reddit has a few choice quotes. quote:Its your choice not to keep updated via Reddit or the Forums, why should Frontier have to adjust their way of telling a story just to cater for you? And anyway you could just go and watch somebody like Obsidian Ant if you want to stay updated but discover things for yourself first.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:04
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drat. This might be the only SA games thread that's worse than the official forums.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:06
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jubjub64 posted:Seriously, why do they want us to grind so much? It's obvious that they do. When you make a player grind towards a goal you have to make sure that goal is worth it otherwise you get dissallusioned players. Because if you don't grind, you'll realize there's nothing else in this game. At all.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:10
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One might say that the combat (and space truckin w/ podcast??) is fun enough to do in its own right and not just to grind? But yes the reward structure is off.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:16
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Strategic Tea posted:One might say that the combat (and space truckin w/ podcast??) is fun enough to do in its own right and not just to grind? Sure. And I have plenty of fun not caring, but that's after I got a bunch of money and ships through Quince. Now I can just have fun instead.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:19
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I'm just about to make Exploration Elite in a barely modded Sidewinder and will have more money than I care to ever use. Meanwhile there are CMDRs who spent that whole time in a Nav Beacon and might just be able to afford a basic Vulture. The risk/time/reward calculation is FUBARed. The number of newbies in Quince-funded Anacondas that are burnt out on the game is really funny though.
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Sep 30, 2017 19:33
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ubergnu posted:drat. This might be the only SA games thread that's worse than the official forums. drat, it's not that bad. I can bear to read this thread, so it's better than the forums.
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Sep 30, 2017 20:22
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Knifegrab posted:This seems to be the new way to make money: 
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Sep 30, 2017 20:24
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Wolfechu posted:drat, it's not that bad. I can bear to read this thread, so it's better than the forums. Nah, I can get actual information from there. Not just low level bitching. I'm helping!
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Sep 30, 2017 20:33
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ubergnu posted:Nah, I can get actual information from there. Not just low level bitching. This post is low level bitching.
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Sep 30, 2017 20:44
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A. Beaverhausen posted:This post is low level bitching. That was the joke, yes. Good work there.
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Sep 30, 2017 21:03
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I like the update. Route plotting is dope. Gonna put The Pig up for a bit and get my DBX, Sherpa's Soul, back out! Time to go somewhere weird! By the time I get back the Thargoid meta should have settled down and I'll get back in the 'vette and  on some DF raids!
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Sep 30, 2017 23:45
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You don't need to level up on rep for Rhea/LQ runs as even neutrals will drop six million offers to haul some people next door after a bit of board scrubbing. People are hammering this hard tho as the mission board is flaking out.
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I was wondering about some of the technical aspects of how this game is run; obviously it doesn't render everything in the galaxy at once because that's impossible, so how does it simulate an open galaxy with stars and whatnot exactly where they're supposed to be surrounding you depending on your position? Is it a series of instances that are generated the moment a player enters? Are the stars and whatnot just some sort of skybox wizardry? Is it actually possible to fly between stars without jumping and going through a disguised load screen if you left the game running for long enough and cheated yourself infinite fuel? Or is there an invisible barrier a billion LS's out?
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