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Job retraining would've been good 20 years ago to prevent today, and likely will be helpful to try and moderate whatever shitstorm lies just over the horizon. What we need is a modern day labor rights movement before automation gets too big but yeah fuckin right
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Two Finger posted:Ethically frame my dick from the back Hey maybe we shouldn't keep pushing to turn this thread into a loving echo chamber?
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 15:42 |
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That's "things used to matter.png" right there
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 15:43 |
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Kawasaki Nun posted:What we need is a modern day labor rights movement before automation gets too big but yeah fuckin right With any luck the robots strike first and strike hard
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 15:48 |
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Pesticide20 posted:Maybe some sort of combination where people received educations and training as well as affordable housing, healthcare, and food. I will never not find that funny.
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http://amp.fox25boston.com/news/only-on-boston-25-exclusive-photos-of-las-vegas-shooters-weapon/618716556 A news station in Boston got some pics of the shooters gear. He was probably using Surefire MAG5 extended mags, not drum mags. http://www.surefire.com/tactical-equipment/high-capacity-magazines.html
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[quote="“Kawasaki Nun”" post="“477013249”"] Job retraining would’ve been good 20 years ago to prevent today, and likely will be helpful to try and moderate whatever shitstorm lies just over the horizon. What we need is a modern day labor rights movement before automation gets too big but yeah fuckin right [/quote] Do you mean in terms of refocusing employees into new jobs or blocking automation? [quote="“Gobbeldygook”" post="“477013448”"] http://amp.fox25boston.com/news/only-on-boston-25-exclusive-photos-of-las-vegas-shooters-weapon/618716556 A news station in Boston got some pics of the shooters gear. He was probably using Surefire MAG5 extended mags, not drum mags. http://www.surefire.com/tactical-equipment/high-capacity-magazines.html [/quote] I can remember are surefire supposed to be the only good ones or are they just slightly better then random stuff from Korea or Eastern Europe.
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Job retraining would've been good 20 years ago to prevent today, and likely will be helpful to try and moderate whatever shitstorm lies just over the horizon. Automation is the only reason American manufacturing is still competitive. If you try to implement a bunch of regulations to stop it, you'll just end up driving companies to offshore it.
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Job retraining would've been good 20 years ago to prevent today, and likely will be helpful to try and moderate whatever shitstorm lies just over the horizon. We had this exact problem in the UK before you did in the US, when our mining and heavy industry shut down from about 1970 -> 1980 (roughly). Any of our governments could have pushed some money to those communities for retraining, or better to get some tax breaks in (or whatever is similar) to get some new industry going. We didn't. We still aren't. Those places are still totally hosed up and on life support. Guess which bits of the UK voted for Brexit! Yep, different country, exactly the same poo poo you're going though.
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Surefire lights are the tits. Dunno about their other stuff.
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Proud Christian Mom posted:With any luck the robots strike first and strike hard I have no job and I must MAGA, a story by Harlan Elison the second.
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:has anyone said "peeontologist" yet It is pronounced "day-ontology", so the better joke is saying "gayontologist".
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Hexyflexy posted:We had this exact problem in the UK before you did in the US, when our mining and heavy industry shut down from about 1970 -> 1980 (roughly). Any of our governments could have pushed some money to those communities for retraining, or better to get some tax breaks in (or whatever is similar) to get some new industry going. We didn't. We still aren't. Those places are still totally hosed up and on life support. The US is the second biggest exporter of manufactured goods in the world. The manufacturing industry isn't dead here, they just replaced people with machines. For example, I just got done working at a mine that was almost completely autonomous. They had a few operators and maintenance personnel on each shift to oversee everything and that was it.
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[quote="“Godholio”" post="“477013610”"] Surefire lights are the tits. Dunno about their other stuff. [/quote] Yeah, I just never recall any really super mag being really reliable past 40 rounds or so, even from Surefire which is a reliable company by and large. [quote="“psydude”" post="“477013562”"] Automation is the only reason American manufacturing is still competitive. If you try to implement a bunch of regulations to stop it, you’ll just end up driving companies to offshore it. [/quote] This is extremely true.
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Godholio posted:Surefire lights are the tits. Dunno about their other stuff. The one I had died within a week. Switched to Streamlight and never l looked back.
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psydude posted:The US is the second biggest exporter of manufactured goods in the world. The manufacturing industry isn't dead here, they just replaced people with machines. For example, I just got done working at a mine that was almost completely autonomous. They had a few operators and maintenance personnel on each shift to oversee everything and that was it. It ends up as the same problem, you don't need 5000 dudes turning up to a plant every morning anymore. I can't raise my hand and say I'm not guilty in this, I must have written software that's automated the crap out of thousands of people's previous work. I think my point is that we're dealing with that step change really badly.
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Hexyflexy posted:It ends up as the same problem, you don't need 5000 dudes turning up to a plant every morning anymore. I can't raise my hand and say I'm not guilty in this, I must have written software that's automated the crap out of thousands of people's previous work. I think my point is that we're dealing with that step change really badly. It's kind of repeating history, but at a far more massive level and the fed just aren't picking up the ball
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 16:17 |
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Hexyflexy posted:It ends up as the same problem, you don't need 5000 dudes turning up to a plant every morning anymore. I can't raise my hand and say I'm not guilty in this, I must have written software that's automated the crap out of thousands of people's previous work. I think my point is that we're dealing with that step change really badly. Depends on who the 'we' in this situation is. Pretty sure the 1% are absolutely loving how things are being dealt with. Working out pretty drat good for them.
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CommieGIR posted:Lol. What ethical framework. Arguing that laws won't solve anything because criminals are devoid of laws isnt a logical argument. Its a poor mans attempt to end run around a point you disagree with by nullifying it. That's not giving DR's ethical* philosophy** enough credit. It's not just the people who voice disagreement when he expresses his opinions: no real world consequences of his views can ever force him to change his mind. It must feel quite pleasantly secure, especially ever since he learned a fancy-sounding word for it. Finally, a label with which to focus and solidify his contempt for people who admit fault and error, and people who ever take practical action to try to make anything better for anyone but themselves. Hats off, DR: you've cracked the code. You found an excuse for never having to try. e: CommieGIR posted:Even better: He labels it an ETHICAL framework, so that anyone in disagreement is 'Unethical' A breathtakingly convenient misunderstanding. "Other people might flail around, trying to figure out what's good and bad and how we then should consistently live, but I have an ethical framework." Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Godholio posted:Surefire lights are the tits. Dunno about their other stuff. I had a 6P when they first came out. It died within a month, also went the Streamlight route.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 16:29 |
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I've only used their LED products. I've had one for almost a decade, the other for about 7 years.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 16:39 |
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If I remember correctly, Mattis pissed off Obama because Mattis was more hardline about Iran, so Obama ended up canning him. https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/915233152389574657 Everything has been turned on its head.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 16:44 |
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Doc Hawkins posted:That's not giving DR's ethical* philosophy** enough credit. It's not just the people who voice disagreement when he expresses his opinions: no real world consequences of his views can ever force him to change his mind. It must feel quite pleasantly secure, especially ever since he learned a fancy-sounding word for it. Finally, a label with which to focus and solidify his contempt for people who admit fault and error, and people who ever take practical action to try to make anything better for anyone but themselves. Even better: He labels it an ETHICAL framework, so that anyone in disagreement is 'Unethical'
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 16:47 |
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It's more like capitalism is the problem in all these situations
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 16:52 |
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The Economist has had several pieces on the changes brought by then Internet, including the focusing of capital (Internet companies create fewer jobs than they destroy) and increased automation of menial/tedious/repetitive jobs. I think they are moving in the direction of being in favor of a universal basic income but I haven't had a chance to catch up since grad school started.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 16:55 |
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https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/915182783370285056 Lol deficits are good now
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 16:58 |
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They've already straight up admitted that deficit talk was to go after obama. The unspoken part of course is that they're playing their voters for idiots and convinced them that sovereign debt is like personal debt.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 17:05 |
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Yeah but those people won't go after republican deficits cause they will just say trump doesn't have one (even though he does)
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 17:12 |
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Hey ElMaligno, I hope your freeloading family members in Puerto Rico are feeling suitably chastened for throwing the budget out of whack. https://twitter.com/ABC/status/915249340809043971
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suboptimal posted:Hey ElMaligno, I hope your freeloading family members in Puerto Rico are feeling suitably chastened for throwing the budget out of whack. It's ok, they can be proud of their death toll. https://twitter.com/christinawilkie/status/915249090027548672
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 17:23 |
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I feel like I'm on repeat when I say "what the ever-living gently caress".
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suboptimal posted:Hey ElMaligno, I hope your freeloading family members in Puerto Rico are feeling suitably chastened for throwing the budget out of whack. Alzheimer's is kicking in pretty hard.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 17:25 |
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Is this it? Is this the pivot? Is he presidential now? ...but for real impeachment now. I'd take the 25th but I think it's the cowardly way out.
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LingcodKilla posted:I feel like I'm on repeat when I say "what the ever-living gently caress". It gets better. He rambled on about the F-35. https://twitter.com/dave_brown24/status/915250261177794565 He is in Puerto Rico right now and decided to talk about the F-35.
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https://twitter.com/dave_brown24/status/915250261177794565 vvvvvv Bolow fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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facialimpediment posted:It gets better. He rambled on about the F-35. This guy is amazing. I think I might have an aneurysm if he keeps going
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What in the gently caress?
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 17:28 |
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I mean, I know it's sort of getting old to post Trump poo poo, but I still recognize how loving nuts it is to brag about unknown death toll numbers and ramble on about the F-35 to a bunch of people THAT JUST WANT loving DIESEL FUEL DELIVERED TO THE HOSPITALS SO THEY DONT DIE OVERNIGHT. By the way, he hasn't had the tour of the island yet.
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# ? Oct 3, 2017 17:32 |
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https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/915191812691828736 The police response was great, but sheesh
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Hey guys this one time obummer cried when talking about some crisis children actors got allegedly gun downed (but we know the truth) so it could be worse! #maga #TRUMP2020 #TRUMP2024
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