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Rigel posted:So.... a prominent pro-life Republican in congress had an affair and then asked his mistress to get an abortion? is there anything more expected? aside from homophobic republicans having rentboys?
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Rigel posted:So.... a prominent pro-life Republican in congress had an affair and then asked his mistress to get an abortion? We already knew it wasn't about the parasites existence.
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Oct 3, 2017 21:35
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The Kingfish posted:I'll admit its kinda hosed up people can buy guns with bullets that can only kill people and not aminals. People are animals. Makes you think.
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Oct 3, 2017 21:35
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Is it reporting bias or something that makes it seem that despite widespread availability of firearms all we ever seem to get is pointless spree killings? Is it that by the time someone is in the right frame of mind to murder, they skip straight to spree killings? I'm always surprised that we don't have a commensurate amount of political and other kinds of purposeful violence to go with the semi-regular spree killings, like they're an outlier on the amounts of violence. Like, you never hear about people wasting their boss/landlord/bank/insurance or whatever has been tormenting them, just random strangers.
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Oct 3, 2017 21:53
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Rockopolis posted:Is it reporting bias or something that makes it seem that despite widespread availability of firearms all we ever seem to get is pointless spree killings? Is it that by the time someone is in the right frame of mind to murder, they skip straight to spree killings? I'm always surprised that we don't have a commensurate amount of political and other kinds of purposeful violence to go with the semi-regular spree killings, like they're an outlier on the amounts of violence. Like, you never hear about people wasting their boss/landlord/bank/insurance or whatever has been tormenting them, just random strangers. Those happen fairly frequently but yeah it doesn't make beyond the local news unless they kill bigly.
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Oct 3, 2017 21:55
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The Kingfish posted:I'll admit its kinda hosed up people can buy guns with bullets that can only kill people and not aminals. Obviously all guns can kill anything. But who goes hunting with a handgun or semiautomatic weapon?
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Oct 3, 2017 21:55
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Rockopolis posted:Is it reporting bias or something that makes it seem that despite widespread availability of firearms all we ever seem to get is pointless spree killings? Is it that by the time someone is in the right frame of mind to murder, they skip straight to spree killings? I'm always surprised that we don't have a commensurate amount of political and other kinds of purposeful violence to go with the semi-regular spree killings, like they're an outlier on the amounts of violence. Like, you never hear about people wasting their boss/landlord/bank/insurance or whatever has been tormenting them, just random strangers. There are a lot of the kind of killings you describe. Someone shoots their spouse and kids and a random guy who tried to help, and it makes page 3 of the local newspaper. The casino killer knew that if you want to be on p1 of the New York Times, you need a body count.
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Rockopolis posted:Is it reporting bias or something that makes it seem that despite widespread availability of firearms all we ever seem to get is pointless spree killings? Is it that by the time someone is in the right frame of mind to murder, they skip straight to spree killings? I'm always surprised that we don't have a commensurate amount of political and other kinds of purposeful violence to go with the semi-regular spree killings, like they're an outlier on the amounts of violence. Like, you never hear about people wasting their boss/landlord/bank/insurance or whatever has been tormenting them, just random strangers. you literally have a shooting for every day of the year. ask yourself how many of those you've heard something about in the news. the smaller ones don't get reported anymore because they're that depressingly common.
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Oct 3, 2017 21:58
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BarbarianElephant posted:Obviously all guns can kill anything. But who goes hunting with a handgun or semiautomatic weapon? You realize you're just giving them an excuse to rule 34 you on this and link a YouTube right?
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Oct 3, 2017 22:00
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That makes more sense, thanks. Based on national news, it seemed like a disproportionate amount of the shootings are ones where the perpetrator is unrelated to the victims and selects them randomly. I would have expected some proportion to be less random and more grudge based, that explanation makes sense - they happen, they don't get coverage.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:01
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BarbarianElephant posted:Obviously all guns can kill anything. But who goes hunting with a handgun or semiautomatic weapon? People hunt with semiautomatic weapons all the time.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:05
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The Kingfish posted:People hunt with semiautomatic weapons all the time. That doesn't seem sporting, somehow.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:06
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A fuckton of people hunt with AR-15s
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BarbarianElephant posted:That doesn't seem sporting, somehow. That somehow is your brain desperately trying to justify your baseless opinions
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Oct 3, 2017 22:11
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BarbarianElephant posted:That doesn't seem sporting, somehow. They're to take out today's modern super animals, such as the flying squirrel
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Oct 3, 2017 22:13
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You literally do need a semi auto to hunt wild hog.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:14
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Office Pig posted:The headline of that article is insanely bad in the sense that it already makes immediately obvious the knavery of this vote, but leaves it somewhat unfulfilled. Here, let me flesh it out: quote:It attacked the use of execution against persons with “mental or intellectual disabilities, persons below 18 years of age at the time of the commission of the crime, and pregnant women”. Ahh, the Texas clause.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:20
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And how slow do people think a bolt action is? Like you can still drop 4 shots on a deer in under 4 seconds with a bolt action, the main difference is depending on type of bolt action that may be all the rounds it has compared to the whatever the hell size mag you want to put into an AR. And even *that* isn't a given, because there are plenty of bolt actions with external magazines too.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:22
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Office Pig posted:The headline of that article is insanely bad in the sense that it already makes immediately obvious the knavery of this vote, but leaves it somewhat unfulfilled. Here, let me flesh it out: i had a friend post an article with the same basic content, but the headline was "TRUMP VOTES FOR DEATH PENALTY FOR GAYS" which is hilarious in how much it distorts the actual news. like, the thing was bad enough as it was, don't exaggerate to something that's not really true just because it sounds bad. That's how you get poo poo like "OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE OUR GUNS".
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Oct 3, 2017 22:23
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The Kingfish posted:You literally do need a semi auto to hunt wild hog. With a suppressor and thermal optics from a hot air balloon. Anything less will mean a porkalypse.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:27
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We don't need congress to pass a law banning X type of gun, instead congress can pass a law empowering regulators to ban, license, restrict or charge fees to both manufacturers and individuals as the regulator determines best balances the needs of communal and individual safety along with constitutional rights and using the normal rule making process.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:27
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:A fuckton of people hunt with AR-15s if they hunted with sarin, would you support their choice? The Kingfish posted:You literally do need a semi auto to hunt wild hog. People literally hunt wild hog all the time without semi auto. You know a country is doing badly when its tough hunter guys can't take down a pig without a battalion's worth of weaponry.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:31
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Trabisnikof posted:We don't need congress to pass a law banning X type of gun, instead congress can pass a law empowering regulators to ban, license, restrict or charge fees to both manufacturers and individuals as the regulator determines best balances the needs of communal and individual safety along with constitutional rights and using the normal rule making process. Allowing federal dollars to go back into public health research on firearm violence too!
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steinrokkan posted:if they hunted with sarin, would you support their choice? Don't be silly. That would probably make the meat toxic.
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Trabisnikof posted:We don't need congress to pass a law banning X type of gun, instead congress can pass a law empowering regulators to ban, license, restrict or charge fees to both manufacturers and individuals as the regulator determines best balances the needs of communal and individual safety along with constitutional rights and using the normal rule making process. problem occurs when a republican president waives all the restrictions and the country is flooded with those guns before they can be rebanned
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steinrokkan posted:if they hunted with sarin, would you support their choice? Only if they're rich and gas themselves.
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steinrokkan posted:if they hunted with sarin, would you support their choice? People forget the glory days when goons hunted the wild boar with nothing more than their bare hands, a spear, and a small fleet of airborne drones
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BarbarianElephant posted:These guys need hunting guns, not handguns or military-style guns. You can ban them without banning hunting guns. yeah, don't do this. It turns out that the exact same physics required to turn a deer into venison work perfectly well turning concertgoers into corpses. This is the stupid "a gun is legal or illegal depending on wood or plastic trim" poo poo that changes exactly nothing about the lethality but exists entirely to poke at people who vote their guns. Everyone's dancing around the actual feature that they want to ban but can't due to popularity: semi-auto. Mag size laws are trying to get at it indirectly. legislating tacti-cool/intimidating (depending on your dicksize) features do nothing about the fact that the weapon they attach to can kill people as fast as you can point and pull the trigger. If a democrat proposes a gun law that's not "you must remove your hand from the trigger and operate a separate mechanism to fire another bullet" it's a bad gun law and accomplishes nothing but raising the profits of gun manufacturers. I'm not particularly against long-guns either - this poo poo is horrific but rare compared to handgun deaths. But let's all be honest about what the actual issue at hand really is. Harik fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Trabisnikof posted:That's ok, he didn't get the abortion so is her sin not his. Actually it is his. But I am not going to get at how this man should be denied commmunion. Oh and for any committed Socialist I will remind you what these committed Socialists and men committed to racial justice thought of attempts to disarm the populace.  Gun control will only happen when the forces of Capital see more and more groups like the Huey P. Newton gunclub and the John Browns out in the open. They care nothing for those murdered largely from the losers of their system. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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evilweasel posted:problem occurs when a republican president waives all the restrictions and the country is flooded with those guns before they can be rebanned True, but if the EPA CO2 endangerment finding survives Trump, that might show a way that we can craft regulations that are challenging to undo quickly.
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https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/915336576405790721 No word on whether there are exceptions for secret mistresses of GOP politicians.
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Harik posted:yeah, don't do this. It turns out that the exact same physics required to turn a deer into venison work perfectly well turning concertgoers into corpses. This is the stupid "a gun is legal or illegal depending on wood or plastic trim" poo poo that changes exactly nothing about the lethality but exists entirely to poke at people who vote their guns. when we're talking "hunting rifles" bolt-action or the like as compared to semi-auto is the distinction that's being drawn, not the paint
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/Yamiche/status/915336576405790721 Also before anyone asks, there's no way in hell that bill passes the Senate.
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Rigel posted:Also before anyone asks, there's no way in hell that bill passes the Senate. I would expect someone like Manchin to vote yes on it since his vote won't matter. Which should please McMagic to no end.
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The Kingfish posted:You literally do need a semi auto to hunt wild hog. Nahhh. My dad used to bow hunt boars before I was born. One can also do it with dogs. (But I personally find that option off putting and cruel)
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The Kingfish posted:You literally do need a semi auto to hunt wild hog. Or they kick it up a notch and go for explosives after baiting a bunch into a group with food.
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steinrokkan posted:People literally hunt wild hog all the time without semi auto. You know a country is doing badly when its tough hunter guys can't take down a pig without a battalion's worth of weaponry. These aren't just hogs though, we're talking about roving hordes of carnivorous Texas murderpigs. This breed of swine is savage, ruthless, and deadly. We may need to consider allowing rocket launchers.
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Rigel posted:These aren't just hogs though, we're talking about roving hordes of carnivorous Texas murderpigs. This breed of swine is savage, ruthless, and deadly. We may need to consider allowing rocket launchers. this but unironically
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steinrokkan posted:People literally hunt wild hog all the time without semi auto. You know a country is doing badly when its tough hunter guys can't take down a pig without a battalion's worth of weaponry.
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