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cochise posted:The breed that's causing the trouble was crossed with wild Russian hogs, so we're left with a hybrid that can shrug off point blank large caliber rounds. These beasts aren't small and they're smart. Murder the gently caress out of them and use artillery if necessary. Did not recall that detail. Russia really does ruin everything.  i will never apologize for murderpig chat
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Rigel posted:These aren't just hogs though, we're talking about roving hordes of carnivorous Texas murderpigs. This breed of swine is savage, ruthless, and deadly. We may need to consider allowing rocket launchers. We do allow rocket launchers.
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Oct 3, 2017 23:39
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evilweasel posted:when we're talking "hunting rifles" bolt-action or the like as compared to semi-auto is the distinction that's being drawn, not the paint This is utterly incorrect, as every "AWB" ever proposed or enacted has demonstrated. People see a wood stock and think "hunting rifle" and an all-black metal body as "assault weapon", even if they have the exact same firing mechanism. People, it turns out, are incredibly stupid. Don't play games with things like "hunting rifle" vs "assault whatever", just talk about semi auto and how it's gamed into full-auto with poo poo like bump-stock and whatever grinder the vegas guy used.
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Oct 3, 2017 23:45
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cochise posted:The breed that's causing the trouble was crossed with wild Russian hogs, so we're left with a hybrid that can shrug off point blank large caliber rounds. These beasts aren't small and they're smart. Murder the gently caress out of them and use artillery if necessary. Texas does have a Boar issue, but I sincerely doubt they are shrugging off large caliber rounds.
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Harik posted:This is utterly incorrect, as every "AWB" ever proposed or enacted has demonstrated. People see a wood stock and think "hunting rifle" and an all-black metal body as "assault weapon", even if they have the exact same firing mechanism. People, it turns out, are incredibly stupid. that is the distinction that we, the people using the term, are drawing and it is very obvious from the context and the repeated references to a bolt action rifle, in this online discussion. as literally none of us are the authors of the assault weapons ban, nor is that relevant to our point as generally we are seeking to categorically ban most guns while leaving a narrow exception for hunting rifles. given that context it's clear that we are not about to support allowing brown painted ar-15s
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What the heck just leave the pigs alone. Out there in the swamp eating mud or w/e who cares
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CommieGIR posted:Texas does have a Boar issue, but I sincerely doubt they are shrugging off large caliber rounds. Maybe they're not shrugging them off but if the legends are to be believed it pisses them off more than it slows them down.
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Rigel posted:So.... a prominent pro-life Republican in congress had an affair and then asked his mistress to get an abortion? He doesn't meet with his constituents, but he could find a mistress? 
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Fraction Jackson posted:You do know that stuff like this is self-evidently stupid, right?  This is some grade-A shading right here. The "specific set of feelings/state of mind" alcohol is meant to cause is "judgement impaired." The entire point of alcoholic beverages is to get you recreationally hosed up, it has no redeeming social value whatsoever. And your right to tie one on has a staggeringly high socal cost: the NIH estimates that 88,000 people die from alcohol-related causes annually. In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities alone accounted for 9,967 deaths, more than all firearm homicides put together and an order of magnitude higher than the less than 300 people killed with AR-15s."But I might need cooking sherry! Guns for hunting? Totally different." is really the cherry on top. Fraction Jackson posted:A car can be used as a weapon, but it isn't built for that. Its general intended use is to not hit things but instead just to get you from point A to point B and to maybe help you carry some stuff. Z. Autobahn posted:Regulating the right to own a gun the way we regulate the right to drive would be a great start! You do know that most things people do with guns in public, like hunting and concealed carry and working as an armed guard, are already licensed by the state in most jurisdictions? Ze Pollack posted:that you view mass murders as the equivalent of crackin' open a cold one with the boys is shockingly explanatory  Harik posted:If a democrat proposes a gun law that's not "you must remove your hand from the trigger and operate a separate mechanism to fire another bullet" it's a bad gun law and accomplishes nothing but raising the profits of gun manufacturers. evilweasel posted:when we're talking "hunting rifles" bolt-action or the like as compared to semi-auto is the distinction that's being drawn, not the paint
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Rockopolis posted:Is it reporting bias or something that makes it seem that despite widespread availability of firearms all we ever seem to get is pointless spree killings? Is it that by the time someone is in the right frame of mind to murder, they skip straight to spree killings? I'm always surprised that we don't have a commensurate amount of political and other kinds of purposeful violence to go with the semi-regular spree killings, like they're an outlier on the amounts of violence. Like, you never hear about people wasting their boss/landlord/bank/insurance or whatever has been tormenting them, just random strangers. Gun Violence Archive posted:2017 treasured8elief fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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BirdOfPlay posted:He doesn't meet with his constituents, but he could find a mistress? Did you offer to give him a blow job? I bet you just wanted to talk about health care.
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CommieGIR posted:Texas does have a Boar issue, but I sincerely doubt they are shrugging off large caliber rounds. I seem to recall a goon that did an ask/tell about hunting hogs and even did an interview before drones became big about using drones with IR cams to spot hogs. He might have said it's easier to kill them with a giant gently caress off spear with a metal stopping bar near the middle. Apparently hogs still try to gore you even when they have a spear in them.
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I dunno about easier. I think he was just into medieval technology for murdering animals. That dude was the best.
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Can someone explain or link me to something explaining the Puerto Rico situation? I glean my news from a diversity of sources and I'm having trouble because they're saying completely different things. My uncle knows a family on the southern coast who claim the US media is blowing it out of proportion to make trump look bad...but then you get the reports that make it sound like everyone inland is dying. If there is some sort of comprehensive evidence based reporting I'm missing, please point it out to me. I desperately want to believe we're doing right by these people. Sorry if this isn't the right place to ask. If it matters, I'm not a trump supporter, though I thought his speech on the Vegas massacre was decent. Low bar probably
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Dead Reckoning posted:I don't think you thought this through. "LEFT HANDED BOLT ACTIONS AND TOGGLE LOCKS AND ALL PUMP ACTIONS ARE ILLEGAL NOW, REEEEEE". If you go down this route, you end up like Australia, where whether or not a manually cycled gun can be operated too quickly to be legal is a matter of serious discussion. I guess we'll have to ban all guns because lefties can use a right-handed bolt action illegally.
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Dead Reckoning posted:The Mauser action most often used in bolt action rifles today was developed for the Gewehr 98 military rifle and continues to be used in many sniper rifles. You can't draw a neat distinction between military and civilian firearms. what a stupid thing to say that you clearly thought was relevant for some idiot reason did you know that hunting rifles can still be used to kill people?!?!?!?!?!?! they are the type of weapon most ill-suited for the sorts of violence that we want to restrict and the best suited for the thin excuses to own a gun so they might be offered as a bone thrown to people who accept the need to regulate guns strictly but still want to hunt
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gowb posted:Can someone explain or link me to something explaining the Puerto Rico situation? I glean my news from a diversity of sources and I'm having trouble because they're saying completely different things. My uncle knows a family on the southern coast who claim the US media is blowing it out of proportion to make trump look bad...but then you get the reports that make it sound like everyone inland is dying. If there is some sort of comprehensive evidence based reporting I'm missing, please point it out to me. I desperately want to believe we're doing right by these people. the island has no power and basically all infrastructure destroyed and we actually don't even know how bad it is because we can't get into the island and find out
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Oh no g*d forbid we be like australia, what a nightmare
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evilweasel posted:what a stupid thing to say that you clearly thought was relevant for some idiot reason Also, the right to keep a gun for hunting purposes has never been litigated AFAIK and has not been held to be covered by the 2nd Amendment, so IDK why y'all are interested in it.
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Calibanibal posted:Oh no g*d forbid we be like australia, what a nightmare You think the murderboars in Texas are bad? Wait until the country gets invaded by murderboar-spiders.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Yeah, but we all understand your argument is completely insincere. Even if your wildest dreams came true and all semi autos were rounded up and destroyed, next time someone climbed a clock tower smoked a bunch of people with a Remington 700, you'd be talking about the need to regulate these military style sniper rifles that fire powerful, military caliber bullets. You're not fooling anyone. of course they'd be regulated. they'd be strictly regulated. just legal. but i don't care about your idiot opinion because you are one of those people who go "but you're lying and once we agree to reasonable things then you will demand unreasonable things, so i won't support preventing drunken toddlers from possessing fully automatic weapons because of my freedoms!!!!"
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evilweasel posted:of course they'd be regulated. they'd be strictly regulated. just legal. Big ole flaw here is that you frame any and all expansion of gun control as "reasonable."
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Dead Reckoning posted:Big ole flaw here is that you frame any and all expansion of gun control as "reasonable." When the current standard is largely "none" you look like an idiot saying this.
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evilweasel posted:of course they'd be regulated. they'd be strictly regulated. just legal. 
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Puerto Rico is suffering and people have/are dieing, some of it due to a slower response than there should have been. I think there is an expectation is that there are going to be significantly more deaths than have been reported so far and as much as the focus is on the deaths life is going to be very very hard for a long time for most people who lived or remain on the island. The Trump administration, FEMA, whoever dropped the ball here for a while on the response and its unlikely from my position that Puerto Rico will get the continued support it needs to recover from Maria as it fades from public consciousness. On another note I know a bunch of people are just stirring the pot on the Las Vegas shooting and the inevitable gun control debate it inspires but I really hope outside of silly discussions on hunting and pedantic clarifications on how guns actually work most of you guys aren't lost in the forest on this issue. It won't satisfy you but I think its worth more than nothing to shoot a message to your reps contrasting their useless twitter prayers and their actual votes on gun control measures.
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Lord Hydronium posted:According to the movie "Lethal Weapon", people can be classified as lethal weapons, so what if after guns we start outlawing people? Checkmate, libs. RuanGacho posted:When the current standard is largely "none" you look like an idiot saying this.
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Remember kids, guns are an inalienable right that must not be infringed or limited by the government in any way because they're our last defense against government tyranny, also government agents have the unrestricted unquestionable right to summarily execute you at any time even if you're just peacefully sitting in a park as long as they say they thought you might have a gun.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Also, the right to keep a gun for hunting purposes has never been litigated AFAIK and has not been held to be covered by the 2nd Amendment, so IDK why y'all are interested in it. I can't think of a way the Dems could thoroughly gently caress themselves more quickly than to push a national ban on hunting with rifles. A lot of people in the middle would freak the gently caress out and run to the GOP. Its such a politically dangerous topic that even Pelosi quickly and emphatically insists that no one wants to get rid of hunting whenever gun control comes up for discussion. So, this is not a thing.
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guns are bad, but they also bring us some good things like this image: 
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Rigel posted:I can't think of a way the Dems could thoroughly gently caress themselves more quickly than to push a national ban on hunting with rifles. A lot of people in the middle would freak the gently caress out and run to the GOP. Its such a politically dangerous topic that even Pelosi quickly and emphatically insists that no one wants to get rid of hunting whenever gun control comes up for discussion.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I know you're being sarcastic, but more people die every year from bare handed beatings than AR-15s and AK-47s, so... maybe not as big a problem as they're made out to be? i hope future president gavin newsom takes away every single one of your guns and melts them down in front of you
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Gun control isn't possible in the US because it's the only country in the world where the concept of "hunting" exists.
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Instant Sunrise posted:i hope future president gavin newsom takes away every single one of your guns and melts them down in front of you He will probably blow his brains out before that has a chance to come to pass. I hope people keep engaging him in good faith though, its a good conversation to have, he brings up thoughtful meritorious points.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Right, so offering "you can keep the guns that we have deemed appropriate for hunting, why can't you agree to the rest of our ~reasonable~ demands?" as a sop, like it's some incredibly generous concession by those in favor of gun control, is hilarious and incredibly disingenuous. you're not part of the conversation, you'd be bound and gagged and used as an ottoman for the conversation
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I'm glad to see we're at that point in the discussion where people admit that they want to ban guns partly to spite gun owners for wrongthink.
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Banning guns would be good but they're far too intrinsic to too many voters' sense of self so we need to find another way.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'm glad to see we're at that point in the discussion where people admit that they want to ban guns partly to spite gun owners for wrongthink. Mostly just yours.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'm glad to see we're at that point in the discussion where people admit that they want to ban guns partly to spite gun owners for wrongthink. no, you'd be bound gagged and used as an ottoman to avoid you interjecting nonsense your guns would be confiscated because you personally clearly can't be trusted with anything more dangerous than a spork
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evilweasel posted:no, you'd be bound gagged and used as an ottoman to avoid you interjecting nonsense I would never allow my cat the disservice of loafing on DR. How dare you even suggest it.
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