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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

TotalLossBrain posted:

Claims of 'reverse-engineering' are a bit dubious , though - if a board shop noticed the similar designs/hardware layout, then it's a pretty good bet it was a copy & paste job instead. In a proper reverse-engineered board, the layout would probably not be identical. The circuits, SOCs/ICs might be similar or identical. Silk screen & layout, though? Not a chance.
The trick is to convince the jury of that.

If Otto obtained the chip legitimately they can grind off the package and stick the thing under a microscope and go off and design copies of it and they're not guilty of a trade secret violation, which is what they're being sued for. They could conceivably be open to claims of another nature (like, the copyright), but they're in the clear in regards to trade secrets, which is what the lawsuit is about.

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

IamnotJoe posted:

Then everyone applauded.

He teleported behind them "nothing personal kids ;)"

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

LifeSunDeath posted:

He teleported behind them "nothing personal kids ;)"

While they were trying to start a business... he studied the blade.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




Wheat Loaf posted:

While they were trying to start a business... he studied the blade.

What if they were studying the blade, though?

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007





I'm glad this is clearly fake because that's a real dick move to pull on people trying to start a business and make a living

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

U-DO Burger posted:

I'm glad this is clearly fake because that's a real dick move to pull on people trying to start a business and make a living

But you see, he didn't like the way they were acting in a coffee shop. He's not the rear end in a top hat, they are!

Tarantula
Nov 4, 2009

No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.
Guess i'm the schadenfreude here, I bought dying light on steam a couple of days ago with some of my tax return money, it cost $60 usd. I just checked it today and it's on special for $20 usd. fuuuck me.

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

Tarantula posted:

Guess i'm the schadenfreude here, I bought dying light on steam a couple of days ago with some of my tax return money, it cost $60 usd. I just checked it today and it's on special for $20 usd. fuuuck me.

If you haven't played it you can usually get a refund within X days or under 2 hours play-time.
SOmetimes they can just straight up refund the sale difference if you ask for it.

Tarantula
Nov 4, 2009

No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.

DarkDobe posted:

If you haven't played it you can usually get a refund within X days or under 2 hours play-time.
SOmetimes they can just straight up refund the sale difference if you ask for it.

Huh that's pretty awesome, I knew steam gave refunds but I would have thought they would be stingy about something like this.

Writer Cath
Apr 1, 2007

Box. Flipped.
Plaster Town Cop

Imagine it in reverse: :smug: Top that, ladies.

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


https://i.imgur.com/ei1NjAb.mp4

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

Writer Cath posted:

Imagine it in reverse: :smug: Top that, ladies.

drat, good call.

Discount Dracula
Aug 15, 2003


Nap Ghost
Gas station attendant takes proactive measures to prevent a fire. :discourse:

https://giant.gfycat.com/ResponsibleJadedAmericancurl.webm

Discount Dracula has a new favorite as of 01:34 on Oct 4, 2017

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Tarantula posted:

Huh that's pretty awesome, I knew steam gave refunds but I would have thought they would be stingy about something like this.

Steam support is actually pretty chill and friendly. It tends to take time because it's done by whoever in the office has time to do it at the moment IIRC and not a dedicated support staff member. I've had a lot of friends complain about how much of a pain it was to deal with but every time I've dealt with it I've gotten the refund and they've been nothing but polite and quick about it as soon as they took the ticket.

epenthesis
Jan 12, 2008

I'M TAKIN' YOU PUNKS DOWN!

AlmightyBob posted:

Her family is rich as poo poo though and she went to college in Scotland then law school at William and Mary

If she hadn't been rich it wouldn't have been a good dose of schadenfreude. She didn't put herself on the street, she just lost the prestigious brand-name education she wanted and was publicly humiliated in a way that still haunts her today, all for a slightly enhanced credit in the program of a graduation ceremony she couldn't attend. She has a job today because her daddy gave her one, which is actually perfect for someone whose accomplishments are always going to be considered suspect.

Velocity Raptor
Jul 27, 2007

I MADE A PROMISE
I'LL DO ANYTHING

Tarantula posted:

Huh that's pretty awesome, I knew steam gave refunds but I would have thought they would be stingy about something like this.

I think Valve actually described your exact scenario, or someone asked them, regarding a valid refund.

Anything under 2hr played/ 2 weeks owned is usually an auto approved refund.

dumb.
Apr 11, 2014

-=💀=-

Discount Dracula posted:

Gas station attendant takes proactive measures to prevent a fire. :discourse:

https://giant.gfycat.com/ResponsibleJadedAmericancurl.webm

Yesssss.

Tarantula
Nov 4, 2009

No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.

Velocity Raptor posted:

I think Valve actually described your exact scenario, or someone asked them, regarding a valid refund.

Anything under 2hr played/ 2 weeks owned is usually an auto approved refund.

Certainly hope the refund comes in before the sale expires.
Content: the cuphead game is out, and some people are getting a little mad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaYKOQWooaU

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Dizz
Feb 14, 2010


L :dva: L

Tarantula posted:

Certainly hope the refund comes in before the sale expires.
Content: the cuphead game is out, and some people are getting a little mad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaYKOQWooaU

DSP was able to beat it. Also these guys are just hamming it up because 'lol angery gamer die hard game new dark souls'

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




Tarantula posted:

Certainly hope the refund comes in before the sale expires.
Content: the cuphead game is out, and some people are getting a little mad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaYKOQWooaU

It sure is hilarious watching people overact

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Nuebot posted:

Steam support is actually pretty chill and friendly. It tends to take time because it's done by whoever in the office has time to do it at the moment IIRC and not a dedicated support staff member. I've had a lot of friends complain about how much of a pain it was to deal with but every time I've dealt with it I've gotten the refund and they've been nothing but polite and quick about it as soon as they took the ticket.

Or, you bought a title back before Steam offered refunds that has NEVER worked, and basically get told, "Meh. Yeah, no refund, buddy."

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Tarantula posted:

Certainly hope the refund comes in before the sale expires.
Content: the cuphead game is out, and some people are getting a little mad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaYKOQWooaU

I also love people acting

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Samizdata posted:

Or, you bought a title back before Steam offered refunds that has NEVER worked, and basically get told, "Meh. Yeah, no refund, buddy."

I bought a game shortly before it went on sale in 2012, and they refunded the sale price back to me. I also bought a game in 2014 that (and this is 100% my fuckup and I never expected anything) was refunded to me because I bought the wrong game (Starforge instead of Starbound). I just asked Steam Support nicely each time and said "I totally understand that you have no obligation to help me out but I would be really grateful if you did".

The joke was on me because Starbound was a feature-incomplete Terraria-in-space game when it came out and now it's a loving hot mess, and has been good for exactly zero of the time I have owned it.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Samizdata posted:

Or, you bought a title back before Steam offered refunds that has NEVER worked, and basically get told, "Meh. Yeah, no refund, buddy."

I don't know how old that would be. The oldest "Last Played" date on my steam library is back in 2012 and I can't recall ever having issues. :shrug: I'm always just polite to them and never try to abuse the refund system compared to my friends who try to get refunds every other week and lose their poo poo with steam support if there's any kind of delay.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
Yeah it's pretty great. I've used it twice over the years without troubles. Both times I didn't like the game and that was a good enough reason I guess. (Universe Simulator and Stalker)

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧



Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

TotalLossBrain posted:

I didn't like the game
(Stalker)

Blasphemy!

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilekd7_Kodw

A Disney cruise ship crashing

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I thought it was standard procedure to have someone standing at the stern of the ship for exactly this reason?

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
https://i.imgur.com/KSz5D0C.mp4

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

Sagebrush posted:

Blasphemy!

the shadenfreude there is not being able to appreciate the single greatest open world fps with rpg elements ever made

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
One day I'm gonna play stalker just to see how the gently caress they turned that movie into a video game

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Nuebot posted:

I don't know how old that would be. The oldest "Last Played" date on my steam library is back in 2012 and I can't recall ever having issues. :shrug: I'm always just polite to them and never try to abuse the refund system compared to my friends who try to get refunds every other week and lose their poo poo with steam support if there's any kind of delay.

I was polite and I have NEVER gotten any refunds from Steam either before or since.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

This is fantastic. I particularly like the casual "oh wait I think I have somewhere else to be" walk off at the end.

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti
https://i.imgur.com/0Z7YmIi.gifv


https://zippy.gfycat.com/BossyAgitatedGalapagosdove.webm

Clitch
Feb 26, 2002

I lived through
Donald Trump's presidency
and all I got was
this lousy virus

Oh poo poo. Did he just saw through a beehive?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Clitch posted:

Oh poo poo. Did he just saw through a beehive?

Yes he did!

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

Gum posted:

One day I'm gonna play stalker just to see how the gently caress they turned that movie into a video game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpSxgvchas

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Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

I don't think that part happened in the film

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