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got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
Castle Doctrine

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Electromax
May 6, 2007
A black Punisher who exclusively kills corrupt police officers would get people talking, that's for sure. Or a Chris Kyle punisher who takes it upon himself to protect Houston WalMart inventories from minorities after Harvey, punisher types loved that little story.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
Christopher Dorner Punisher is the only Punisher I'll accept in 2017

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

quote:

Todd McFarlane Confirms February Start For “Dark, R-Rated” ‘Spawn’; Pledges Daily Facebook Updates – Comic Con

Todd McFarlane, Spawn creator and director of the upcoming feature film version, pledged at New York Comic Con today to post daily Facebook updates during filming to chronicle the day-in-day-out goings-on of life on the set.

And he promised that Spawn, which will go into pre-production after Christmas for a February production start, will be “dark and R-rated,” and not R-rated like Deadpool “with a couple F-bombs and a couple bare asses.”

“It’s going to be dark,” McFarlane said, explaining that Spawn won’t be a standard superhero movie and its darkness will spring from a realistic drama that will play on fear. “I will have a shark in black water,” he said metaphorically, “and if you’re swimming he will come and you’ll be gone and he will f*ck you up.”

McFarlane spoke about his love of dark drama – “Gorky Park over Star Wars” – and how the best supernatural thrillers contain one fantastical element set in an otherwise realistic environment. “John Carpenter’s The Thing minus the Thing is about dudes holed up in the North.”

The comic book vet dropped a couple non-Spawn (and vague) hints – he and Kevin Smith met yesterday with AMC about their Sam and Twitch series; he recently sold a script to Showtime that won’t be announced for five or six months, and his McFarlane Toys just landed a deal for a Stranger Things line – but most of the talk was about Spawn.

McFarlane completed the script for the new Spawn last year before joining up with Jason Blum’s production company Blumhouse on the project.

McFarlane said today that pre-production is expected to start just after Christmas, with production to begin in February. While Blum has a first-look deal at Universal, McFarlane does not – meaning, he said, that Universal is likely to “take it” but he wouldn’t rule out other studios.

“The only things we need from them,” he said, “are distribution and marketing. We don’t need your input, we don’t need your cash, we don’t need your creativity – and they don’t like those deals. They always want the budget to go up because then they have to put money in it and then they own it.”

McFarlane said the budget for Spawn will be $10 million, and that his financial control of the project allows for a couple perks – like getting to share on-set tidbits with Facebook fans (which studios, he said, would frown on) and that he gets to direct his first movie.

Asked by an audience member why he’s so confident he can direct a movie, McFarlane said, “I didn’t use to draw comic books and I drew comic books and I won awards. I don’t know how to read music and I have a Grammy Award.

“I’m spending my own money so who cares if it doesn’t work out. It’s a $10 million budget movie, and (a studio) would just get a 22-year-old punk director. I just want to be the old punk directing it.”


Flawless logic.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
A fitting end to a real rear end in a top hat.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Today I learned Todd McFarlane has a Grammy.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

There was an exhaustive list of every single possible event, situation, and character permutation that anyone could think of and all of them had already been done in actual comics except for one: Transgender Spider-Man.

Not really transgender, but Ultimate Spider-Woman was a gender-swapped clone of Ultimate Peter Parker.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






The MSJ posted:

Not really transgender, but Ultimate Spider-Woman was a gender-swapped clone of Ultimate Peter Parker.

Didn't that clone have Peter's memories installed into her, so from her perspective she just woke up one day in a girl's body? That's like scifi next-level transgendered.

Detective Dog Dick
Oct 21, 2008

Detective Dog Dick

teagone posted:

Today I learned Todd McFarlane has a Grammy.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Flawless logic.

I'm not sure if I want this to be surprisingly good or really, really bad.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
It's pretty much the ultimate vanity project.


Best of luck to him I guess, if nothing else we'll get something to laugh at

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.
Yeah I read an article saying that Jason Blum and him are making the movie so cheap because they aren't getting paid for it at all.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



teagone posted:

Today I learned Todd McFarlane has a Grammy.

So does The Tall Man, Angus Scrimm ...


... BOY.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
In addition to pulling The Punisher out of NYCC, Netflix and Marvel were planning a "surprise" launch of The Punisher on October 13th to be announced at NYCC.

They decided to push it back.

https://twitter.com/vernejgay/statu...er%3D430%23pti8

wyoming
Jun 7, 2010

Like a television
tuned to a dead channel.

teagone posted:

Today I learned Todd McFarlane has a Grammy.

The Spawn soundtrack was flawless. :v:

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

SATAN Satan satan satan

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
Punisher is fine as a character, was great in DD and makes perfect sense the way he's written. I can understand why Marvel backed off but just saying "he sucks" or arbitrarily changing his race seems kinda silly.

Although I have to admit I wonder how many bikers and wannabe tough guys would sport Punisher t-shirts & trick out their Harleys with skull logos and poo poo if the he wasn't white.

Serf
May 5, 2011


I'm more concerned with cops who sport his logo.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

BiggerBoat posted:

Punisher is fine as a character, was great in DD and makes perfect sense the way he's written. I can understand why Marvel backed off but just saying "he sucks" or arbitrarily changing his race seems kinda silly.

Although I have to admit I wonder how many bikers and wannabe tough guys would sport Punisher t-shirts & trick out their Harleys with skull logos and poo poo if the he wasn't white.
I'm gonna tentatively say that the guy who lives down the road from me, whose truck is decorated with a MAGA flag, a Thin Blue Line Flag, several Confederate flag stickers, and TRIGGERED? in block letters across the back window...would take off the American Flag Punisher sticker if that happened.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Gonna be sad when Stan is gone.

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/915924418693554176

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

BiggerBoat posted:

Punisher is fine as a character, was great in DD and makes perfect sense the way he's written. I can understand why Marvel backed off but just saying "he sucks" or arbitrarily changing his race seems kinda silly.

Although I have to admit I wonder how many bikers and wannabe tough guys would sport Punisher t-shirts & trick out their Harleys with skull logos and poo poo if the he wasn't white.

Yeah, I think the MCU Punisher is fine, but the comics absolutely need to play with this a little.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

Yeah, I think the MCU Punisher is fine, but the comics absolutely need to play with this a little.
Just have him kill corrupt cops and PMCs instead of street level petty criminals

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
There's a non-white Ghost Rider in Agents of Shield. I imagine tough guys and bikers probably like Ghost Rider too.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

There's a non-white Ghost Rider in Agents of Shield. I imagine tough guys and bikers probably like Ghost Rider too.

He's not the real Ghost Rider, even in the context of the show.


And by that I mean he has a car, so he's a Ghost Driver. But Ghost Driver sounds more like some hosed up sequel to Ghost Dad.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
Ghost Rider and Ghost Chauffeur

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Burkion posted:

He's not the real Ghost Rider, even in the context of the show.


And by that I mean he has a car, so he's a Ghost Driver. But Ghost Driver sounds more like some hosed up sequel to Ghost Dad.

Or a late Baby Driver sequel.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

TV news: Fast & Furious' Neal Moritz and Crank's Brian Taylor is making a new Syfy adaptation of a Grant Morrison comic where Christopher Meloni is a suicidal ex-cop assassin and Patton Oswalt is an imaginary cartoon horse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4gFlDn6c0c

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Burkion posted:

He's not the real Ghost Rider, even in the context of the show.


And by that I mean he has a car, so he's a Ghost Driver. But Ghost Driver sounds more like some hosed up sequel to Ghost Dad.


Schwarzwald posted:

Ghost Rider and Ghost Chauffeur

I can't be arsed finding a pic, but the comics have occasionally had it canon that the Ghost Rider can be the driver, rider, or crew of any vehicle or mount, which includes trucks, tanks and elephants.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

achillesforever6 posted:

Just have him kill corrupt cops and PMCs
The problem here is that the Avengers are a PMC. So they now have to film one of those wanky Ennis one-shots where the Punisher kills the Avengers.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Halloween Jack posted:

I'm gonna tentatively say that the guy who lives down the road from me, whose truck is decorated with a MAGA flag, a Thin Blue Line Flag, several Confederate flag stickers, and TRIGGERED? in block letters across the back window...would take off the American Flag Punisher sticker if that happened.

it is your duty as an american citizen to key the gently caress out of that truck

edit; bonus points if you spell out "snowflake" on the side

The D in Detroit
Oct 13, 2012

Inescapable Duck posted:

I can't be arsed finding a pic, but the comics have occasionally had it canon that the Ghost Rider can be the driver, rider, or crew of any vehicle or mount, which includes trucks, tanks and elephants.

Nic Cage Ghost Rides a Bagger 288 in the second movie, so it's definitely canon.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Oh? You've never been?

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

achillesforever6 posted:

Just have him kill corrupt cops and PMCs instead of street level petty criminals

This is more or less the theme of Ennis' incredibly bleak run. He just keeps killing his way up the food chain.

Seriously, it's great. It's fully aware of what a horrifying concept and nihilistic figure Frank is.

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo
There are some really, really hosed up Punisher comics out there. Like, graphic incest levels of hosed up. I don't feel like looking up the details but I vaguely recall someone loving his Aunt or something. In the same comic a mobster sucks another mobsters dick for some reason.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
There's also ones where the Punisher goes after slavers and white supremacists. It's pretty equal-opportunity revenge porn for the most part.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



SolidSnakesBandana posted:

There are some really, really hosed up Punisher comics out there. Like, graphic incest levels of hosed up. I don't feel like looking up the details but I vaguely recall someone loving his Aunt or something. In the same comic a mobster sucks another mobsters dick for some reason.

"Up is Down, Black is White" where insane gangster Nicky Cavella demands control of all the New York mafia families in exchange for taking out the Frank. His plan involves what he believe will drive Frank insane, leading him to make a mistake that will result in his death.

Cavella digs up the remains of Frank's family and films himself pissing on them.

This does not go well for Cavella or the rest of the mafia.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

achillesforever6 posted:

Just have him kill corrupt cops and PMCs instead of street level petty criminals

In the Netflix show, he's killing the CIA, former Marines, army contractors, mercenaries, and gangsters.

Renoistic
Jul 27, 2007

Everyone has a
guardian angel.

Davros1 posted:

"Up is Down, Black is White" where insane gangster Nicky Cavella demands control of all the New York mafia families in exchange for taking out the Frank. His plan involves what he believe will drive Frank insane, leading him to make a mistake that will result in his death.

Cavella digs up the remains of Frank's family and films himself pissing on them.

This does not go well for Cavella or the rest of the mafia.

I adore the reaction shot of Frank watching the video, which is broadcast on television. You know his next move isn't going to be pretty.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

SleepCousinDeath posted:

Nic Cage Ghost Rides a Bagger 288 in the second movie, so it's definitely canon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDzQddhYmJs

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I really hope they somehow get Cage as Ghost Rider in a Marvel movie, just to have everyone else wonder what the gently caress.

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