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EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Like every single other box/app I've used. I love all my Apple gear and accept they usually come with at least one mind boggling feature per device, but the lack of frame rate and sdr/hdr sensing is pretty sucky.

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qirex
Feb 15, 2001

I'm hoping after all the bad feedback they'll enable mode switching as a user option.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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nate fisher posted:

Just curious what settings you are using for your KS8000? I just haven't been blown away by 4K HDR yet. The jump from 1080p just doesn't feel like the big of a jump. Maybe it's just me, and I haven't found the right settings yet. Please any advice is welcomed (I have 55 inch version).

Do you have UHD color enabled on your HDMI ports?

Generic Monk
Oct 31, 2011

EL BROMANCE posted:

Like every single other box/app I've used. I love all my Apple gear and accept they usually come with at least one mind boggling feature per device, but the lack of frame rate and sdr/hdr sensing is pretty sucky.

I think it's pretty impossible to do in a way that's graceful enough for Apple be happy with without TV manufacturers agreeing on a consistently implemented standard, or Apple making their own tv. Apple making their own tv is by far the more likely of those, and it's not even particularly likely.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Most other hardware reads the framerate of the incoming source and kicks out the signal at that frame rate and leaves it to the TV to adjust to the new one. In the same way, kicking out an HDR signal will tell the TV it needs to adjust too. Most other hardware deals with this stuff perfectly fine, and as it's not 1998 anymore the TVs deal with it without a hitch. I'm guessing Apple found trying to reverse engineer this into an existing framework wasn't as easy as hoped, and rushed it out in an 'almost works' state.

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

My understanding was that they didn't like the flicker that happens to most TVs when the resolution/mode changes so they figured they'd make it "seamless"

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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qirex posted:

My understanding was that they didn't like the flicker that happens to most TVs when the resolution/mode changes so they figured they'd make it "seamless"

Yes this is exactly it and its stupid because nobody gives a poo poo about a short flicker. I'd much rather take that then bullshit fake HDR being applied and incorrect frame rates.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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That's insane and totally believable. Also anyone who sees the flicker and gets annoyed with it blames the TV, not the individual device.

If that's the case, adding the extra option shouldn't be difficult and maybe in a point revision. I'll hold off on choosing a 4K box between the new ATV, Roku Ultra, and Amazon Fire until they're all in the wild and flaws are known/addressed.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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EL BROMANCE posted:

That's insane and totally believable. Also anyone who sees the flicker and gets annoyed with it blames the TV, not the individual device.

If that's the case, adding the extra option shouldn't be difficult and maybe in a point revision. I'll hold off on choosing a 4K box between the new ATV, Roku Ultra, and Amazon Fire until they're all in the wild and flaws are known/addressed.

That's the problem, nothing is really perfect right now. If I were to pick an option though and didn't care about Apple integration, I'd go back to the Shield hands down.

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

EL BROMANCE posted:

That's insane and totally believable.

blast0rama
Aug 13, 2003

Tingly.


Violator posted:

Is there a suggested site for movie codes? I just recently learned about this and it makes a lot of sense.

This is a pretty good repository of resellers.

https://uvspider.com/

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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As a fellow Brit, I feel a barrage of confusing localized slang directed his way will change everything for the best.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Generic Monk posted:

I think it's pretty impossible to do in a way that's graceful enough for Apple be happy with without TV manufacturers agreeing on a consistently implemented standard, or Apple making their own tv. Apple making their own tv is by far the more likely of those, and it's not even particularly likely.

The xbox one s handles it perfectly.

I think what isn't graceful is the TV looking like it's at half brightness the entire time 4k HDR is selected and the content being presented isn't HDR.

Or, I dunno, make it an option? Just like you have to enable the best modes (4:2:2 chroma), you could enable auto switching if you know what it does.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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Exactly, an auto option for people who don't know any better/don't care, and a 'these are the modes my tv is capable of' checkboxing for us motion and colorspace nerds.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

EL BROMANCE posted:

As a fellow Brit, I feel a barrage of confusing localized slang directed his way will change everything for the best.

Ah loo mini ummmm!

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Violator posted:

Is there a suggested site for movie codes? I just recently learned about this and it makes a lot of sense.

Was also wondering this.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Craptacular! posted:

Was also wondering this.

OGB posted:

This is a pretty good repository of resellers.

https://uvspider.com/

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I'm having an issue with Plex on AppleTV. If i'm watching a TV show, the 30-60 seconds drops out. It will start buffering around the 90 seconds left mark for a second which will increase exponentially until about 30-60 seconds left and then the file will just stop. The file plays fine on my Roku boxes, and I can finish the episode by using VLC on my phone and airplay.

Anyone else see this before?

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



FCKGW posted:

I'm having an issue with Plex on AppleTV. If i'm watching a TV show, the 30-60 seconds drops out. It will start buffering around the 90 seconds left mark for a second which will increase exponentially until about 30-60 seconds left and then the file will just stop. The file plays fine on my Roku boxes, and I can finish the episode by using VLC on my phone and airplay.

Anyone else see this before?

Live OTA or DVR'd shows?

I'll have to look later, since I pretty much use Channels for OTA stuff.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Proteus Jones posted:

Live OTA or DVR'd shows?

I'll have to look later, since I pretty much use Channels for OTA stuff.

Nope, plain old mkv files.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



FCKGW posted:

Nope, plain old mkv files.

Then no. I have a boatload of uncompressed BluRay mkvs on my NAS and they all play fine using the Plex client.

Have you tried Infuse? It should be able to access your Plex library so you can test playback.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Those digital copy clearinghouses are great.

I got a digital copy of Cabin in the Woods for Halloween and Nick Cage's Season of the Witch for every day viewing because it really is one of his best works.

EDIT: well, until the code doesn't work because you have to insert the disc to redeem. loving A.

Krispy Wafer fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Oct 5, 2017

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Got one of the 4ks. Everytime I switch to a different input on my TV and back, HDR turns itself off. Any idea why?

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


Anybody who's trying to convince themselves to buy/upgrade to an ATV 4K should read this fairly detailed review:

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1507035457

Almost every feature examined, even stuff about the HDR and connections and what you can expect to find as far as 4K media..

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
Are these available physically anywhere other than an Apple Store? I kind of casually want one and it'd be much easier for me to pull the trigger on it if I could just walk into Best Buy and get one, but checking online every single store near me doesn't carry any stock (although they can be ordered online).

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Cobalt Viper posted:

Are these available physically anywhere other than an Apple Store? I kind of casually want one and it'd be much easier for me to pull the trigger on it if I could just walk into Best Buy and get one, but checking online every single store near me doesn't carry any stock (although they can be ordered online).

Best Buy is stocking them. Whether they have any physically in stock is a different question.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Costco.ca has the 32GB for $219CAD plus there is or was a $25 off coupon off $100 if you use MasterCard masterpass or whatever. Seemed like a good deal

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
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Cobalt Viper posted:

Are these available physically anywhere other than an Apple Store? I kind of casually want one and it'd be much easier for me to pull the trigger on it if I could just walk into Best Buy and get one, but checking online every single store near me doesn't carry any stock (although they can be ordered online).

I got mine from Target but they all appear to be out of stock right now too.

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
Went to my local Best Buy just looking for an optical cable and came across this.



Except it wasn't a 4k it was just a regular old 4th generation. I looked at the packaging and it just said [1080p] on the back which was a red flag but also saw the picture of the remote having a white circle around it which made me think it was a new one (It was a new one, a new 4th gen).

Needless to say I didn't really want one in the first place but now that I thought I could get one and didn't get one I want it even more and no one has it. RIP.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



The 4K one also says 4K on it very prominently.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Yeah, Apple stuff is never branded as "iPhone" or "iPad" or whatever, it's always iphone 8+ or iphone ecks or iPad Pro 9.8 and such, clear markings of its version

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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It could definitely be picked up by someone who doesn't know what the correct packaging looks like though.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Has anyone proposed we pronounce it "Apple TV Fork" yet?

EngineerJoe
Aug 8, 2004
-=whore=-



Some could buy that thinking its 4k and literally never know.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
C'mon, if you're savvy enough to specifically want the 4K Apple TV, you're not gonna not know that you got the wrong one. By the time you get to the register you're gonna realize that's it's ringing up for the wrong price.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

I can tell none of you has worked retail if you're freaking out this much about a box being in the wrong place

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo

FCKGW posted:

I can tell none of you has worked retail if you're freaking out this much about a box being in the wrong place
I'm not even freaking out, it was just especially curious since they didn't even have a spot/sign for the 4th gen version. The white ring on the remote on the packaging did throw me off though because I didn't realize that they apparently made new 4th gens to ship alongside the 4K.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Is Plex real wonky on AppleTV? My local server is fine, but connecting to a remote server barely works. It'll play usually around 15-30 minutes of something, then stop, say "connection isn't fast enough", then buffer for forever to play like 1 min. Seems pretty obvious the connection is fast enough since it'll play a solid half hour easily...any way to fix this?

gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak


I've had Plex tell me the connection isn't fast enough when playing from my local server.

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Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

gret posted:

I've had Plex tell me the connection isn't fast enough when playing from my local server.

Same, when connected to the same switch even.

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