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I don't think the potential for death/failure is ever what unnerves me about a good horror game, so I don't mind easy combat in general. I kinda prefer "easy" combat over stuff like Alien Isolation or Amnesia where you have to always be running.
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I've yet to play a "you are chased by an invincible scary monster" game that 100% gets it right. You either figure out its AI patterns or it just cheats and kills you anyway, and both extremes take you out of the experience.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:12
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It's very hard to sustain atmosphere when the player is repeatedly getting jerked out of the moment and forced to repeat the last bit of content. Plus fear of getting killed by a big monster you see running at you is the least interesting kind of fear.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:13
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"the scariest thing, is threat" - oddium
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Oct 9, 2017 17:14
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Oct 9, 2017 17:15
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I'm making a vr horror game where you have to make eye contact with people
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Oct 9, 2017 17:19
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Nate RFB posted:It's been over a decade since I played SH1-3, but my enduring memory of SH3 is that it is focuses an extraordinary amount on the cult storyline which even back then I thought was one of the lamest parts of the franchise. Sure, the story is a bit weak. (Heather is one of my favorite characters in video games though) But wasn't playing it for that. Was playing it for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0Im48hjRk I like how often you didn't know if something was a enemy, a sound effect, or the music.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:20
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Help Im Alive posted:I'm making a vr horror game where you have to make eye contact with people "Humanity is the real monster" I remark solemnly while searching for big-tittayed anime babes on pornhub.
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Help Im Alive posted:I'm making a vr horror game where you have to make eye contact with people
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I thought that both demos for Resident Evil 7 and Silent Hill P.T. did the horror right. The problem is that in full games the devs decide to ramp it up and end up giving the player guns and the tension somewhat goes away. It could probably work if they stuck to the original idea and kept the title 4-6 hours long but both of those things kill sales so I get why it's not happening.
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Palpek posted:I thought that both demos for Resident Evil 7 and Silent Hill P.T. did the horror right. The problem is that in full games the devs decide to ramp it up and end up giving the player guns and the tension somewhat goes away. It could probably work if they stuck to the original idea and kept the title 4-6 hours long but both of those things kill sales so I get why it's not happening. RE7 with a gun was fine I thought, especially due to being against an unstoppable madman in the first half and then a horrid bugwoman later on. The few enemies in the beginning mainly are clustered moldy fuckers and the tension is still there at this point, but the boat segment onward completely wrecks all the tension. The ending's ridiculous final encounter redeems things but there's a big third of the game where you are constantly fighting poo poo and then literally running through a gauntlet in the salt mines. The parts of RE7 before you leave the estate are really, really strong and legit terrifying, especially when the game has that hyper-real PT look to it. I'm convinced Capcom accidentally made a great horror game but then ran out of time and threw some RE5-esque poo poo to fill it out.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:42
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Don't forget that the boat starts with a short sequence where there are moulded enemies and you haven't found a gun yet. But yeah, it's turned into a free-for-all by the end.
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Oct 9, 2017 17:46
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silent hill 2 isn't very scary but i don't think that is literally ever the point of silent hill 2, it's not a scary game to play, it's a journey into a bunch of people's weird hosed up psyches where they have to confront their trauma that's eating them up inside, seeing how it breaks some of them and seeing what conclusion james ultimately comes toMr.Kattykat posted:I really hate it when people see something slightly out of the ordinary and go "whoa, the guy who made this must have been on drugs! The unwillingness to embrace something with a more esoteric structure is why a huge amount of media is just bland + homogenised + safe. did you know the guy who created famous TOTALLY DRUGGED UP video game series katamari damacy is just a stubborn goofy artist dad who doesn't really listen to higher-ups when he designs games
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exquisite tea posted:I've yet to play a "you are chased by an invincible scary monster" game that 100% gets it right. You either figure out its AI patterns or it just cheats and kills you anyway, and both extremes take you out of the experience. After the xenomorph of Alien: Isolation killed me one too many times she stopped being scary to me and instead just seemed like a trolling rear end in a top hat.
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The Colonel posted:silent hill 2 isn't very scary but i don't think that is literally ever the point of silent hill 2, it's not a scary game to play, it's a journey into a bunch of people's weird hosed up psyches where they have to confront their trauma that's eating them up inside, seeing how it breaks some of them and seeing what conclusion james ultimately comes to David Lynch needs to make a video game instead of just inspiring all the best ones.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:12
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exquisite tea posted:David Lynch needs to make a video game instead of just inspiring all the best ones. i think he's actually tried a few times but like a lot of games like that it's always fallen through
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Oct 9, 2017 18:13
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exquisite tea posted:David Lynch needs to make a video game instead of just inspiring all the best ones. Only if its a 100 hour JRPG experience because boy I would want to make that last.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:14
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The perfect David Lynch would have no tutorial or ingame information, a manual that only hints at mechanics, and an anticlimatic final boss that comes out of nowhere.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:22
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tap my mountain posted:The perfect David Lynch would have no tutorial or ingame information, a manual that only hints at mechanics, and an anticlimatic final boss that comes out of nowhere. Hellblade was a pretty good game.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:26
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A Twin Peaks rpg where during the day you explore the town and do quests for the weird npcs and at night you fight the black lodge.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:29
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Palpek posted:A Twin Peaks rpg where during the day you explore the town and do quests for the weird npcs and at night you fight the black lodge. So, yeah, Deadly Premonition
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Oct 9, 2017 18:30
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Nah it should have a tutorial should we can get the video game equivalent of this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ2Nfvc8WMw but with the tutorial fading in and out
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Oct 9, 2017 18:31
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Someone help me recreate Mullohand Drive as a visual novel.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:33
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When people talk about "good bad games" I don't really know what they mean because if the product is unsalvageable in some respect it's usually enough to cast a shadow over the rest of it. Except for Deadly Premonition.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:34
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The Stranger Things mobile game is pretty dope, it's an 8bit Zelda-like game with a decent amount of content (I'm like 7 hours in and around 3/4 done) for free with no microtransactions. And if you're a fan of the show it hints at some stuff that I assume is going to be in season 2.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:36
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Killer 7 is pretty close to "what if Lynch but Japanese." The stories and premises are absolutely batshit. It's probably one of the craziest non-Kojima games in existence.
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DLC Inc posted:Killer 7 is pretty close to "what if Lynch but Japanese." The stories and premises are absolutely batshit. It's probably one of the craziest non-Kojima games in existence. Nah Killer7 is Kojima if he had a less money, more style, and cared a hell of a lot less about explaining his supernatural elements
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Oct 9, 2017 18:47
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I've been enjoying killer7 but the promise of beauty that I felt in Episode 0 quickly got overshadowed by how many cutscenes there have been since that have been monumentally boring
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Oct 9, 2017 18:49
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Lynch's work inspired a lot of what went into Silent Hill 2, but SH2 in turn inspired a whole lot of other games so some are only Lynchian by proxy.
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exquisite tea posted:I've yet to play a "you are chased by an invincible scary monster" game that 100% gets it right. You either figure out its AI patterns or it just cheats and kills you anyway, and both extremes take you out of the experience. I think the 2 smallest colossi in Shadow of the Colossus (Celosia and Cenobia) did this pretty well. ...other than sometimes stunlocking you while you try to get up 
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some guy on the bus posted:Sure, the story is a bit weak. (Heather is one of my favorite characters in video games though) But wasn't playing it for that. Was playing it for I want to applaud Resi7's audio engineers, whoever they are. They must've made an hour's worth of scrapes, thumps, creaking, and poo poo toppling over. Every so often I do a quick 180 to see if something weird spawned behind me. Palpek posted:A Twin Peaks rpg where during the day you explore the town and do quests for the weird npcs and at night you fight the black lodge. Alas, the original concept for Alan Wake would've taken another 10 years. exquisite tea posted:When people talk about "good bad games" I don't really know what they mean because if the product is unsalvageable in some respect it's usually enough to cast a shadow over the rest of it. Except for Deadly Premonition. There's a line to cross into unsalvageable. I've truly played very few games I'd call unplayable. Usually bad games are just boring.
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al-azad posted:I want to applaud Resi7's audio engineers, whoever they are. They must've made an hour's worth of scrapes, thumps, creaking, and poo poo toppling over. Every so often I do a quick 180 to see if something weird spawned behind me. Any examples you can think of? I've experienced many bad games in my life but the only one I can think of that is unplayably bad is Drakengard 1
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Oct 9, 2017 18:55
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i tried playing ninja blade once expecting something really cheesy and dumb and i got that but i also got one of the most unplayably bad action games i've ever played in my life
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Oct 9, 2017 18:59
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Ninja Blade lets you turn off QTEs so it's a-okay in my book.
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Sweetgrass posted:also don't be shy about using magic mirrors if you have any of them in your items, even one round of repelled damage can be the difference maker megid- spells aren't blocked by magic mirror. i have the resources, the spells, the levels, the defenses, everything i need to fight it. the point is that i'm just not willing to spend the effort necessary to fight a boss where only half my party gets to attack because you have to heal twice every round the rng decides to use it. with this boss, the illusion is stripped away and p3 has just stopped being fun and if you aren't playing video games to have a good time then why are you playing video games
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even without qtes i don't think i've played a lot of action games that feel as terrible to play on a basic level also persona 3's combat is bad
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Actually, isn't Mizzurna Falls pretty much a David Lynch game?
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