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mediadave
Sep 8, 2011
Thread's broken again - lets start a new one.

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dogboy
Jul 21, 2009

hurr
Grimey Drawer

lollontee posted:

What's wrong with the Typhoon?

It can't carry nukes (the ones on loan from the US), and those are required to fulfill NATO obligations.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene
Yikes that ode to fallen dreamers post is real as gently caress

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Death to all tyrants.

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

mediadave posted:

Thread's broken again - lets start a new one.

Agreed. Who wants to do the new op?

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo
You're broken!

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

Lascivious Sloth posted:

You're broken!

Holy poo poo OP's back!

E. Hi sloth, I didn't start posting in your thread until four years after you posted it.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Duckbox posted:

Agreed. Who wants to do the new op?

I'd like to do it, I'm trying to think of a way to summarize it without it becoming an epic poem.

Also I want to archive all of my posts here because holy poo poo this goes so far back.

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

Al-Saqr posted:

I'd like to do it, I'm trying to think of a way to summarize it without it becoming an epic poem.

Also I want to archive all of my posts here because holy poo poo this goes so far back.

I posted a summary of the Syrian situation a few weeks ago that I thought might be worth including, but holy poo poo if it doesn't already feel out of date. Ditto stuff like kurdchart.jpg

Probably just do your best and let thread regulars effort post to fill in the gaps. I don't think there's a poster here who has a handle on the whole MENA, so don't sweat it. Good luck.

PS. I'm half way to a decent "MENA girls" joke if you want to use it.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Just reading back through my old posts, finding some classic videos, like this one from August 2011 when poo poo started going sideways for Gadaffi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LtLoros6Uk

It was also around this time time 6 years ago that Caro was beaten up and arrested by a Benghazi militia after he attacked a professional photographer trying to help Caro's friend who had just been shot in the leg by a machine gun in Sirte.

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Oct 9, 2017

Bueno Papi
May 10, 2009

Brown Moses posted:

Just reading back through my old posts, finding some classic videos, like this one from August 2011 when poo poo started going sideways for Gadaffi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LtLoros6Uk

It was also around this time time 6 years ago that Caro was beaten up and arrested by a Benghazi militia after he attacked a professional photographer trying to help Caro's friend who had just been shot in the leg by a machine gun in Sirte.

Have you heard from Caro recently? I hope he finally got the help he needed and is living a good life after everything he's been through.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Duckbox posted:

I posted a summary of the Syrian situation a few weeks ago that I thought might be worth including, but holy poo poo if it doesn't already feel out of date. Ditto stuff like kurdchart.jpg

Probably just do your best and let thread regulars effort post to fill in the gaps. I don't think there's a poster here who has a handle on the whole MENA, so don't sweat it. Good luck.

PS. I'm half way to a decent "MENA girls" joke if you want to use it.

A friend of mine swears that the undiscovered perfect joke involves the phrase "schwa of Iran".

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

This won't get the reaction you want, if there's anything tankies love more than shilling for dictators it's dead socialists

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Bueno Papi posted:

Have you heard from Caro recently? I hope he finally got the help he needed and is living a good life after everything he's been through.

Didn't he get criminal charges for his stunt and is currently a normal insane homeless american?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Bueno Papi posted:

Have you heard from Caro recently? I hope he finally got the help he needed and is living a good life after everything he's been through.

Not since he messaged me after getting out, and I told him I didn't want to talk to someone who had previously ended up with 3 FBI agents visiting my office, or who had threatened me after saying I was part of the CIA.

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

Brown Moses posted:

Not since he messaged me after getting out, and I told him I didn't want to talk to someone who had previously ended up with 3 FBI agents visiting my office, or who had threatened me after saying I was part of the CIA.

Sounds like a...colorful individual, to put it politely.

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

CrazyLoon posted:

Sounds like a...colorful individual, to put it politely.

Do you not know who Caro is?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

The Kevin Dawes story:
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/syria-isis-kevin-dawes

Good piece on him post release:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...e-a6980021.html

Forum Legend.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Caro is an american hero. We should celebrate adventurous spirits, not.. lock them up.

ltugo
Aug 10, 2004

If there was a grading scale for torture I would give sleep deprivation and waterboarding a C-.

Libluini posted:

(Can Radium die of old age? Discuss.)

No, but half of him disappears every 1600 years.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
When that "American ISIS" story broke last week my first thought was Caro nooooooooo!

CrazyLoon
Aug 10, 2015

"..."

BattleMaster posted:

Do you not know who Caro is?

I know what he did and what happened to him, no idea what he's like as a person though. Other than pretty obviously batshit.

Radio Prune
Feb 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/p_vanostaeyen/status/917719110921981952

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo
Hawija is over, and now it's a chance (small?) that Iraq will become a "civil" war. What will happen now in Kirkuk is important, and how regional players react to Kurdistan. I wish this poo poo would go away, so bored of war.

edit; holy poo poo just realised this thread is 6 years old. I don't think I predicted this world..

Lascivious Sloth fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Oct 10, 2017

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/DavidADaoud/status/917838668571795456

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/917849779983605760

Also Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Liberman says Lebanon and Syria will be one front in the "next" war.

quote:

“The new reality also prepares new challenges for us. If once we spoke about the Lebanese front — there is no longer such a front. There is the northern front. In any development there may be, it will be one front, Syria and Lebanon together, Hezbollah, the Assad regime and all the Assad regime supporters.”

Bueno Papi
May 10, 2009

Brown Moses posted:

Not since he messaged me after getting out, and I told him I didn't want to talk to someone who had previously ended up with 3 FBI agents visiting my office, or who had threatened me after saying I was part of the CIA.

Wow, sorry to hear about that. If there were a case for involuntary institutionalization, this would be the cherry.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Brown Moses posted:

Not since he messaged me after getting out, and I told him I didn't want to talk to someone who had previously ended up with 3 FBI agents visiting my office, or who had threatened me after saying I was part of the CIA.

Wait arent you British? I didn't know the FBI had the jurisdiction to visit you in Britain.

Also quick update, I wrote a preamble for the OP of the next thread, which is more of a subjective statement/editorial of the overall state of affairs in the Arab world, next I will write up a quick word summary on the Gulf, specifically Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Tunisia and I'm going to write a bit on Syria, I will announce when I'm done with the new OP a week before I post it so I can give everyone here time to archive their posts for posterity.

However for the actual summaries of each countries state of affairs I want to be as objective as possible, I would like to have volunteers to help contribute and write a summary on:-

- Yemen.
- Syria, Specifically Kurdish affairs in both Iraq and Syria.
- Iraq
- Iran

thanks.

Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Oct 11, 2017

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Al-Saqr posted:

Wait arent you British? I didn't know the FBI had the jurisdiction to visit you in Britain.

Also quick update, I wrote a preamble for the OP of the next thread, which is more of a subjective statement/editorial of the overall state of affairs in the Arab world, next I will write up a quick word summary on the Gulf, specifically Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Tunisia and I'm going to write a bit on Syria, I will announce when I'm done with the new OP a week before I post it so I can give everyone here time to archive their posts for posterity.

However for the actual summaries of each countries state of affairs I want to be as objective as possible, I would like to have volunteers to help contribute and write a summary on:-

- Yemen.
- Syria, Specifically Kurdish affairs in both Iraq and Syria.
- Iraq
- Iran

thanks.

I would imagine the FBI, pursuant to applicable treaties, can visit persons of interest in other countries for non-detention interview purposes. Brown Moses probably would have had every right to tell them to bugger off but they certainly wouldn't have had any authority to do much more than ask if he wanted to talk.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

FAUXTON posted:

I would imagine the FBI, pursuant to applicable treaties, can visit persons of interest in other countries for non-detention interview purposes. Brown Moses probably would have had every right to tell them to bugger off but they certainly wouldn't have had any authority to do much more than ask if he wanted to talk.

I've had that a couple of times, one with the FBI and again with the JIT investigating MH17. The JIT meeting was more official as they interviewed me as a witness, and the FBI visit was more informal. It was just after my James Foley execution geolocation so two of them kept getting sidetracked asking me about that. We've helped them with a couple of other cases where they wondered if we could help figure something out for them, so I've got a positive relationship with them, not like they were slamming my fingers in desk drawers asking me where Caro was.

Bueno Papi posted:

Wow, sorry to hear about that. If there were a case for involuntary institutionalization, this would be the cherry.

Half the reason I kept in touch with him was just in case he ever started to tell me how the kids at the local kindergarten were spying on him and he was going to make them pay. From what I last heard he was homeless, and was unable to access any kind of support because his Libya and Syria activities disqualified him from it. Next time we hear about him he'll probably have tried to kill someone. He's the Rickety Cricket of the Something Awful Forums.

Duckbox
Sep 7, 2007

Bellingcat is in league with the feds, you heard it here first folks.

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011
I'm wondering what his time in Assad's prison was like. Did they treat him ok because he's American or did he get the normal treatment?

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Dr.Radical posted:

I'm wondering what his time in Assad's prison was like. Did they treat him ok because he's American or did he get the normal treatment?

I remember after his release, he started writing a blog somewhere. When he got to the part where he was captured, he stopped writing. He was allegedly spotted in Branch 215, which was the only information regarding his whereabouts that anyone had to work with for a good year or so. Branch 215 is not a normal treatment prison, even by Syrian standards. VDC has a comprehensive report on the place that came out years ago, and I'd imagine a lot of the stories are from the time when Caro might've been there. Should give an idea.

http://www.vdc-sy.info/index.php/en/reports/1380463510#.Wd3jGGlOnqA

Being American might've saved Caro's life, but I don't think it would've spared him any suffering.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

He sent me some pictures of pretty large scars around his ankle, so I'm guessing they certainly had a few goes torturing him. He also would have been poorly fed as usually you have to bribe guards to feed people properly.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Al-Saqr posted:

Also quick update, I wrote a preamble for the OP of the next thread, which is more of a subjective statement/editorial of the overall state of affairs in the Arab world

How many times are you using the words "neanderthal" and "animal"?

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

Duckbox posted:

Bellingcat is in league with the feds, you heard it here first folks.

More like confirmation of the claims that he's a tool of NATO and the CIA. Still waiting on him to admit the lizard people have visited his office too.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Cat Mattress posted:

How many times are you using the words "neanderthal" and "animal"?

None.

mediadave
Sep 8, 2011
https://twitter.com/ArianeTabatabai/status/918102487051186177

https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/status/918109239826173952

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005


Well if TRUMP watches that report on Fox then decertification is a done deal.

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Brown Moses posted:

He sent me some pictures of pretty large scars around his ankle, so I'm guessing they certainly had a few goes torturing him. He also would have been poorly fed as usually you have to bribe guards to feed people properly.

was he upset with you for working to convince everyone that he was dead

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Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

paul_soccer10 posted:

was he upset with you for working to convince everyone that he was dead

Did anyone think he was still alive after he suddenly went silent for a year after attempting to smuggle himself into a warzone?

At the point BM posted about people seeing him in the torture hole (turned out to be legit) and that he may have died in there (turned out incorrect but not at all unreasonable) it seems like everybody was pretty sure he was dead.

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