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marshmallow creep posted:Now I am wondering if there are many examples of properties that are much more popular in the US than in their own country of origin. The US normally adapts things, so it usually ends up with a US copy (like Wilfred, The Slap, Kath & Kim, or The Office) Oddly, The UK adores Australian soap opera, but that may just be due to their hunger for all english-language soap content.
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Super Fan posted:I found it infantile and and not in a charming way like a Waters film. That's why it's funny
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Oct 10, 2017 14:47
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Desperado Bones posted:Here in Mexico, I guess, mainly the reasons why those are so popular is because of the endless reruns on TV. Also, the dubbing cast in the original old Top Cat series had some very popular comedians from the era if I recall correctly. So, many people my age and way older remember it fondly.
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Oct 10, 2017 14:51
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marshmallow creep posted:Now I am wondering if there are many examples of properties that are much more popular in the US than in their own country of origin. A good amount of anime. For example, Cowboy Bebop bombed pretty hard in Japan, to my understanding, and Gundam Wing is the most popular Gundam series here while Japan sees it as just kind of an oddity.
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Oct 10, 2017 15:06
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Super Fan posted:I found it infantile and and not in a charming way like a Waters film. Comparing yourself to an impatient child is kind of a poor argument.
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Oct 10, 2017 15:21
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:A good amount of anime. For example, Cowboy Bebop bombed pretty hard in Japan, to my understanding, and Gundam Wing is the most popular Gundam series here while Japan sees it as just kind of an oddity. Big O too. Cartoon Network even paid to have a second season made. Toonami was pretty influential with popularizing particular animes of a certain generation.
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Casimir Radon posted:In the US it's probably one of the most forgotten Hanna-Barbara properties. I know what it is because Cartoon Network still showed that stuff when I was a kid, but kids today probably don't. I don't know that it's even shown on Boomerang. Top Cat is kind of an unintentional period piece that's near incomprehensible if you're not familiar with somewhat sanitised 60s New York. I'm guessing the Spanish dub took some creative liberties that aged better.
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Oct 10, 2017 15:53
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Super Fan posted:I found it infantile and and not in a charming way like a Waters film. It all actually happened. They really were a bunch of dumb meatheads who inexplicably got away with their stupid poo poo for way longer than they should have.
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Oct 10, 2017 16:08
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How can you not find the Rock funny in that film. Hell Marky Mark was pretty hilarious too, especially his MERICA monologues at the start. Cmon man. Not everything can be pink flamingos
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Oct 10, 2017 16:12
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Punkin Spunkin posted:How can you not find the Rock funny in that film. Hell Marky Mark was pretty hilarious too, especially his MERICA monologues at the start. You’ve never seen Pink Flamingos
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Oct 10, 2017 16:14
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Super Fan posted:You’ve never seen Pink Flamingos I haven't either 
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Oct 10, 2017 16:17
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I've never seen Pink Flamingos, but people who do all say "piece of poo poo".
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Oct 10, 2017 16:26
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Super Fan posted:I found it infantile and and not in a charming way like a Waters film. I wouldn't characterize Waters' films as 'charmingly infantile.' And while there's a nominal thematic overlap between P&G and PF, there's no significant dramatic or aesthetic overlap. Preferring the latter doesn't provide any clarity as to the qualities of the former and how you appreciate them. P&G features the Rock trying to dispose of a dismembered body by grilling it. It's hilarious.
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Super Fan posted:You’ve never seen Pink Flamingos Not everything can be a john waters movie
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Oct 10, 2017 16:54
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The scene where they try to run over Monk is pitch perfect black comedy.
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weekly font posted:The scene where they try to run over Monk is pitch perfect black comedy. My favorite is when they are trying to kill him in the hospital, disguised as doctors, but keep getting lost and confused.
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Oct 10, 2017 16:57
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Baron von Eevl posted:I've heard of exactly nobody involved in this, so I looked up the writer/director. His last theatrical movie was Chairman of the Board. Oof. I believe it is spelled B-o-r-e-d.
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Oct 10, 2017 16:59
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“I don’t just want everything you have. I want you not to have it.” The closest aesthetic and thematic counterparts to P&G are Evan Goldberg/Seth Rogen comedies like This Is the End and The Interview. To wit, P&G is a better than/actually good version of said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeIN8qiXc2k edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diiaCw3frzo K. Waste fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Oct 10, 2017 |
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Desperado Bones posted:Here in Mexico, I guess, mainly the reasons why those are so popular is because of the endless reruns on TV. Also, the dubbing cast in the original old Top Cat series had some very popular comedians from the era if I recall correctly. So, many people my age and way older remember it fondly. Top Cat is hugely popular here in Mexico for two major reasons: because people identify themselves with the characters (at some point or another every single of us wanted to be a smooth, con man like Top Cat or a Casanova like Fancy Fancy) and the dub. Is not as much as having popular comedians as the dub team being incredibly talented and making the characters theirs. Like is not rare for children to assume Top Cat is happening on one of Mexican City barrios rather than NY. marshmallow creep posted:Now I am wondering if there are many examples of properties that are much more popular in the US than in their own country of origin. The Big O got a second season entirely due its popularity on the states.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Not everything can be a john waters movie And that's why the universe is terrible 
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marshmallow creep posted:Now I am wondering if there are many examples of properties that are much more popular in the US than in their own country of origin. A lot of anime titles from the Golden Age of the 80s and 90s. For example, Cowboy Bebop only got a movie largely because of it's international audience. The Bubblegum Crisis remake and second season of The Big O where funded by American production companies, they had fans in Japan, but never as big as in America. E:fb
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Oct 10, 2017 17:23
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PenguinKnight posted:And that's why the universe is terrible with Waters after so many decades & cool movies I already get his shtick and don't really need more of it
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Bringing the two discussions together with cartoons, dubs, urban cats and regional popularity, I think Samurai Pizza Cats is at least somewhat more fondly regarded by Western audiences for its entertaining dub, which the dubbers had to come up with wholecloth because the anime's original makers neglected to send scripts along with the show.
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Oct 10, 2017 17:28
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PenguinKnight posted:And that's why the universe is terrible If every movie was as weird as john waters movies, how would john waters distinguish himself?
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Oct 10, 2017 17:33
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P&G is in my top 10 for the decade.
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Oct 10, 2017 17:35
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well why not posted:I love it, this just goes to show that great storytelling doesn't require an understanding of the language. Who did Danny Trejo voice in this? The mean pony? Yeah, the one who gets eaten 
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Oct 10, 2017 17:49
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Renoistic posted:Yeah, the one who gets eaten That was a pretty dark goddamn scene.
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Oct 10, 2017 18:03
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Yeah Bay has the sense of humor of like a moderately intelligent 12 year old boy, so it's somewhat hit and miss. Also the True Story chyron gag is stolen from South Park.
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Inescapable Duck posted:Bringing the two discussions together with cartoons, dubs, urban cats and regional popularity, I think Samurai Pizza Cats is at least somewhat more fondly regarded by Western audiences for its entertaining dub, which the dubbers had to come up with wholecloth because the anime's original makers neglected to send scripts along with the show. I think there was one anime, Ghost Stories, that they redubbed in the US because they were told, "just make up whatever will make this sell." So it's lots of crude jokes and ad-libbed humor because they had to just make up whatever they could to make people interested in what was apparently a poorly selling show on its own.
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Are we seriously arguing RML aren't racist edgelords? This is the same show that had Rich Evans leave a ching chong voice-message. And I'm pretty sure it was the third time that happened. The Get Out excuse is missing the point. They're totally fine with black people in black targeted movies. Once it's in a mainstream movie all of a sudden its pandering. https://youtu.be/3XCFjN80BO8
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Thundercracker posted:Are we seriously arguing RML aren't racist edgelords? This is the same show that had Rich Evans leave a ching chong voice-message. And I'm pretty sure it was the third time that happened. They all gave Rich poo poo for it.
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Oct 10, 2017 18:41
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CelticPredator posted:They all gave Rich poo poo for it. 
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DBZ is surely made mostly for Amercian audiences too, right?
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well why not posted:DBZ is surely made mostly for Amercian audiences too, right? Mexicans actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N85YNZVVgZc 
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CelticPredator posted:They all gave Rich poo poo for it. It's pretty easy to build a strawman when you ignore them tearing down poo poo like discriminatory practices in Hollywood in every other botw.
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K. Waste posted:P&G features the Rock trying to dispose of a dismembered body by grilling it. It's hilarious. PF has a similar scene 😀 I dunno, I just don’t like The Rock all that much
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Super Fan posted:I found it infantile and and not in a charming way like a Waters film. I feel like if you told John Waters his films were infantile but charming he'd probably shank you in a bathroom stall K. Waste posted:“I don’t just want everything you have. I want you not to have it.” Mind expanding on that comparison? porfiria posted:Yeah Bay has the sense of humor of like a moderately intelligent 12 year old boy, so it's somewhat hit and miss. Also the True Story chyron gag is stolen from South Park. Notably, if you've read the article the movie is based on, the cards are mostly lies. The thrust of the film is accurate but as with any movie it's heavily fictionalized with characters being collapsed into each other and so forth. I'd have to rewatch it but I read the article just before watching it and noticed the cards being right after several of the bigger changes
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Super Fan posted:I dunno, I just don’t like The Rock all that much What's wrong with you?
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He makes me feel inadequate
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:It's pretty easy to build a strawman when you ignore them tearing down poo poo like discriminatory practices in Hollywood in every other botw. Pacific Rim 2 is doing something right. John Boyega belongs as a leading man. Not a secondary character to boring white son of old western man.
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