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Lightbulb Out
Apr 28, 2006

slack jawed yokel
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/917883751295791107

curious to know more about this re:kaspersky

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Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We
lol you can count on the FSB to completely implode the russian tech sector with their grubby fingers

i bet yandex provided the search tech

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord
TL;DR: The FSB hacked into the Kaspersky product and used the network of 400 million installs as it's own search engine; it could search by user name or by any particular file they were interested in. The antivirus software would then upload the desired "sample" and deliver it to the Russians. That's goddamned brilliant.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

cis autodrag posted:

neat, but lol at the man with kinda bad english writing thinking that putting a period inside the quotes at the end of a sentence was incorrect and worth putting in his FAQ.

i'd put money on there being a big discussion at app[le about whether to put the trailing punctuation inside the quotes (because it looks better) or outside the quotes (because it's better syntactically)

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

https://kev.inburke.com/kevin/circleci-is-hopelessly-insecure/

quote:

When you navigate to your project in CircleCI's UI, Javascript from eight different analytics companies gets loaded and executed in your browser.

This is a problem because the CircleCI browser context has full access to the CircleCI API, which is hosted on the same domain, so all eight of those companies' scripts can make requests to CircleCI API endpoints. Furthermore CircleCI customers frequently either include credentials in source code or as environment variables in CircleCI. Set these, and you are trusting that CircleCI won't get compromised, or at least, your application is at most as secure as CircleCI is.

However, with eight different companies running Javascript in your browser with access to the CircleCI API, your source code and secrets are at most as secure as the union of eight different analytics companies' Javascript environments. If any of those eight gets compromised, it's trivial to execute Javascript that creates a new API token for your account. Once that token is created, an attacker can easily export it to a domain controlled by the attacker. Once an attacker has the token, they can use the "Test Commands" API to add new commands that will dump your environment variables and/or all files in source code to the logs, then download your logs or artifacts via the same API.

mrmcd
Feb 22, 2003

Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).


Secfuck as a service is the hot new trend in tech, friend!

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:

TL;DR: The FSB hacked into the Kaspersky product and used the network of 400 million installs as it's own search engine; it could search by user name or by any particular file they were interested in. The antivirus software would then upload the desired "sample" and deliver it to the Russians. That's goddamned brilliant.

Where'd this come from? the NYT article doesn't have it

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

lol you can count on the FSB to completely implode the russian tech sector with their grubby fingers

i bet yandex provided the search tech

makes u think about putin's recent personal visit to yandex office

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

whenever i hear the name yandex i think it's some anime thing

that's all i have to say thanks for reading my post guys

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



its times like these where you need credibility to make claims like these, and the amount of third-hand sources in there isn't helping anything

geonetix
Mar 6, 2011


mrmcd posted:

Secfuck as a service is the hot new trend in tech, friend!

I'm not entirely sure what the surprise is, loads of SaaS things have been doing this, especially the free ones. lots of HR SaaS is doing this too, because for some reason HR doesn't think privacy or protection of sensitive personal data is important :v:

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

Main Paineframe posted:

Where'd this come from? the NYT article doesn't have it

What gave the Russian hacking, detected more than two years ago, such global reach was its improvised search tool — antivirus software made by a Russian company, Kaspersky Lab, that is used by 400 million people worldwide, including by officials at some two dozen American government agencies.

...by turning the Kaspersky software into a sort of Google search for sensitive information, is not yet publicly known.

Like most security software, Kaspersky Lab’s products require access to everything stored on a computer in order to scour it for viruses or other dangers. Its popular antivirus software scans for signatures of malicious software, or malware, then removes or neuters it before sending a report back to Kaspersky. That procedure, routine for such software, provided a perfect tool for Russian intelligence to exploit to survey the contents of computers and retrieve whatever they found of interest.

burning swine
May 26, 2004



drat it's been a busy couple of days in the secfuck world

anyway, heres another tragic wide-open S3 bin story:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/accenture-left-a-huge-trove-of-client-passwords-on-exposed-servers/

quote:

Each server contained a range of different types of credentials, including private signing keys that could be used to impersonate the company, and passwords -- some of which were stored in plaintext. Vickery said he also found Accenture's master keys for its Amazon Web Service's Key Management System (KMS), which if stolen could allow an attacker full control over the company's encrypted data stored on Amazon's servers.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



http://www.zdnet.com/article/secret-f-35-p-8-c-130-data-stolen-in-australian-defence-contractor-hack/

quote:

In November 2016, the Australian Signals Directorate (ASD) was alerted by a "partner organisation" that an attacker had gained access to the network of a 50-person aerospace engineering firm that subcontracts to the Department of Defence.

Restricted technical information on the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft, the C-130 transport aircraft, the Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) smart bomb kit, and "a few Australian naval vessels" was among the sensitive data stolen from a small Australian defence contractor in 2016.

Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/10/pre-release-google-home-mini-goes-rogue-starts-recording-247/

don't know why google is storing the recordings

lol, of course i do, for data mining

Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007



geonetix posted:

I'm not entirely sure what the surprise is, loads of SaaS things have been doing this, especially the free ones. lots of HR SaaS is doing this too, because for some reason HR doesn't think privacy or protection of sensitive personal data is important :v:

It's not even a free vs paid service thing; POs, managers, and executives just want More Analytics. I guarantee you that no one involved has even considered the privacy and security risks.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

COACHS SPORT BAR posted:

drat it's been a busy couple of days in the secfuck world

anyway, heres another tragic wide-open S3 bin story:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/accenture-left-a-huge-trove-of-client-passwords-on-exposed-servers/

gently caress accenture

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Hahahaha right on time for the EU to skullfuck them

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




evil_bunnY posted:

Hahahaha right on time for the EU to skullfuck them

the eu that uk is leaving?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
that isn't going to happen for a few more years, so yes. only sad thing is GDPR isn't going to be enforced for another ~220 days.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

COACHS SPORT BAR posted:

drat it's been a busy couple of days in the secfuck world

anyway, heres another tragic wide-open S3 bin story:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/accenture-left-a-huge-trove-of-client-passwords-on-exposed-servers/

man its always upguard finding this stuff

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Truga posted:

that isn't going to happen for a few more years, so yes. only sad thing is GDPR isn't going to be enforced for another ~220 days.

i was mostly just kidding, i dont think gdpr will care much since it does concern itself with its area of coverage as of incident (much like any other legal thing)

Wiggly Wayne DDS
Sep 11, 2010



part 3 is up: https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/over-air-vol-2-pt-3-exploiting-wi-fi.html

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

cinci zoo sniper posted:

the eu that uk is leaving?
Not loving yet they haven't. And it's not like May's gonna be in charge of anything much longer

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




evil_bunnY posted:

Not loving yet they haven't. And it's not like May's gonna be in charge of anything much longer

cinci zoo sniper posted:

i was mostly just kidding, i dont think gdpr will care much since it does concern itself with its area of coverage as of incident (much like any other legal thing)

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

its times like these where you need credibility to make claims like these, and the amount of third-hand sources in there isn't helping anything

Yeah. Still, if this turns out to be true, it confirms Israel being behind Duqu 2.

Phlag
Nov 2, 2000

We make a special trip just for you, same low price.


More details on Kaspersky are dribbling out.
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/918174932139462658

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






quote:

Germany: "No evidence" Kaspersky software used by Russians for hacks


http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL8N1MM4ZV

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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re: kaspersky
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/918171990875402240

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

well that'd be a problem if internet-computers with classified data on them had software running on them that could freely call home, but uh

wait i was going somewhere with this

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


flakeloaf posted:

well that'd be a problem if internet-computers with classified data on them had software running on them that could freely call home, but uh

wait i was going somewhere with this

But my nephew said he was good with computers and could help stop those porn popups that you get from facebook.

LinYutang
Oct 12, 2016

NEOLIBERAL SHITPOSTER

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VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO!!!
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Installing Russian software on sensitive computers seems dumb but what do I know I don't work for the CIA's IT division

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

LinYutang posted:

Installing Russian software on sensitive computers seems dumb but what do I know I don't work for the CIA's IT division
as other people have mentioned any machine with kaspersky on it is almost guaranteed to belong to a contractor due to domestic preference laws requiring that the government buy products that originate in the us, which was a policy long before someone wrote a memo mandating the removal of kaspersky products from government computers

Maximum Leader
Dec 5, 2014
but their kgb educated founder pinky promised they didn't do bad things with the Russian government??? I don't think they'd still be around if they didn't tbh. iirc the vk.com founder had to flee russia because he didn't want to cooperate

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

Maximum Leader posted:

but their kgb educated founder pinky promised they didn't do bad things with the Russian government??? I don't think they'd still be around if they didn't tbh. iirc the vk.com founder had to flee russia because he didn't want to cooperate

there are certainly a number of layer sin place to allow plausible deniability by top brass

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Maximum Leader posted:

but their kgb educated founder pinky promised they didn't do bad things with the Russian government??? I don't think they'd still be around if they didn't tbh. iirc the vk.com founder had to flee russia because he didn't want to cooperate

yeah durov did repeatedly get in big troubles

anthonypants posted:

as other people have mentioned any machine with kaspersky on it is almost guaranteed to belong to a contractor due to domestic preference laws requiring that the government buy products that originate in the us, which was a policy long before someone wrote a memo mandating the removal of kaspersky products from government computers

how is kaspersky considered a domestic software in the states

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

cinci zoo sniper posted:

how is kaspersky considered a domestic software in the states
it











isn't

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

I thought they split their corporate and have a huge US headquarters presence

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

cinci zoo sniper posted:

yeah durov did repeatedly get in big troubles


how is kaspersky considered a domestic software in the states

Contractors aren't bound by the sourcing requirements the feds are.

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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013





then what the hell are you trying to say

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