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PantsBandit posted:I am finally getting around to watching TNG. I don't have a whole lot to say other than it is very good and I can't believe they exploded a dude's head. Those villains will definitely play a major role moving forward.
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We started watching DS9 again from the start, got to episode 3. Pilot 2 parter and 3rd episode are actually great. I forgot Garak was introduced so early.
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PantsBandit posted:I am finally getting around to watching TNG. I don't have a whole lot to say other than it is very good and I can't believe they exploded a dude's head. They rarely do anything remotely so graphic. That was a very odd effect considering the tone of the show overall, but I'm kind of glad the first season was directionless enough to give us that.
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Was Rick and Morty's Roy based on The Inner Light.
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Good question. Considering how big a nerd Dan Harmon is, I think there's a good chance that Roy and The Inner Light at least share a common inspiration. There's a DS9 episode with a similar premise as well.
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Yeah but Sisko got inner lighted to the 1950s where everybody was racist instead.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Yeah but Sisko got inner lighted to the 1950s where everybody was racist instead. Did he? Or did Benny Russell get inner lighted to a future where a black man could run a space station?
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Did he? Or did Benny Russell get inner lighted to a future where a black man could run a space station? If it wasn't for Shadows and Symbols using the Pah-Wraths to bring the Benny Russell plot back in an awkward hamfisted way that destroyed any ambiguity to Far Beyond The Stars, I would have said it was deliberately ambiguous.
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VitalSigns posted:The 29th Century mobile emitter that Voyager gets is starting to bug me. The Doctor is the only good character on the show but the concept of walk around holograms corrodes the whole show because you can just replace any old poo poo with holograms, like Neelix' lungs. They should have just made him a flesh and blood dude. Tom or Harry should have been an alien, because another thing Voyager lacks is good alien cast members. The doctor should have had the everyman human role.
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When a console exploded on the Enterprise-D's bridge, it was almost always the Conn because that's usually where an expendable redshirt sat.
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Inescapable Duck posted:I still like that show has a Vorta basically say that engineering is Starfleet's biggest strength, and that makes a lot of sense given how Starfleet technology and tactics are portrayed throughout the show. (and the Dominion's biological weapons are its counterpart; having factories that can pump out super-soldiers and clone your key staff is probably a big strength) I wonder how reliable that cloning really is. Was pacifist Weyoun just a super rare one-in-a-million fuckup? Or is the Dominion's dirty secret that like half the time the clones come out all "whoa this conquest and genocide is really hosed, are we the baddies?" and have to be quietly eliminated. Same with ketracell white. That one Jem'Hadar who was born not addicted to it didn't find out until he crashed on an uninhabited world and ran out. It would be interesting if the genetic addiction is not as reliable as the Dominion claims, and part of their paranoia about ensuring the supply isn't that they won't have enough to ration and some soldiers will have to die, but that the Jem'Hadar will start finding out just how many of them don't really need it.
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Oct 11, 2017 02:15
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You see, the real ketracel white was *inside you all along.*
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Inescapable Duck posted:I still like that show has a Vorta basically say that engineering is Starfleet's biggest strength, and that makes a lot of sense given how Starfleet technology and tactics are portrayed throughout the show. That was Dukat warning Weyoun not to get overconfident against Starfleet. 
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Lord Hydronium posted:You see, the real ketracel white was *inside you all along.* Is ketracel a type of celibacy like incel and volcel?
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VitalSigns posted:Same with ketracell white. That one Jem'Hadar who was born not addicted to it didn't find out until he crashed on an uninhabited world and ran out. It would be interesting if the genetic addiction is not as reliable as the Dominion claims, and part of their paranoia about ensuring the supply isn't that they won't have enough to ration and some soldiers will have to die, but that the Jem'Hadar will start finding out just how many of them don't really need it. I really, really like the relationship between the Founders, Vorta, and the Jem'Hadar in general. I love the idea that the Jem'Hadar want to fight for the Founders, but resent following the Vorta even though the Jem'Hadar would be unmanageable without the Vorta acting as administrators. It's not perfect world building or anything, but it's so much better than what Star Trek usually pulls off.
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Oct 11, 2017 03:21
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Watching Times Arrow. Extraterrestrials on earth five centuries ago? Is this some ancient aliens poo poo?
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Watching Times Arrow. Extraterrestrials on earth five centuries ago? Is this some ancient aliens poo poo?
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Nessus posted:Trek quietly accepts some kind of ancient-astronauts poo poo but I don't think it's ever been said that they built Earth stuff, more like they hung out with us and shot the breeze. Lucien's people for instance. Apparently it was just a single-celled organism hanging out with us.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Apparently it was just a single-celled organism hanging out with us.
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Didn't they change the past in Yesterday's Enterprise? Or was that a perfect loop because of the alternate timeline?
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Paradoxish posted:I really, really like the relationship between the Founders, Vorta, and the Jem'Hadar in general. I love the idea that the Jem'Hadar want to fight for the Founders, but resent following the Vorta even though the Jem'Hadar would be unmanageable without the Vorta acting as administrators. It's not perfect world building or anything, but it's so much better than what Star Trek usually pulls off. One of the best statements of DS9's depth was how even the Jem"Hadar, a race of engineered aliens that have no purpose whatsoever except efficient, remorseless murder, got a decent amount of development and layers written into them.
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Geordi: "We don't have the thing." Data: "Yes we do. It is built into my positronic decompiler." Aw, man
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Nessus posted:Trek quietly accepts some kind of ancient-astronauts poo poo but I don't think it's ever been said that they built Earth stuff, more like they hung out with us and shot the breeze. Lucien's people for instance. That Apollo guy took credit for creating the Greek civilization. Voyager made it clear that aliens taught Native Americans how to use tools.
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VitalSigns posted:Voyager made it clear that aliens taught Native Americans how to use tools. And then different aliens took some Native Americans to another planet where Kirk lost his memory and married one.
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Oct 11, 2017 04:01
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All those poker games with the officers are actually gonna prove useful.
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This is so good that I retroactively forgive the show for every fakeout cold open that started in the holodeck.
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Oct 11, 2017 04:06
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The miner beggar really makes me pine for the post-scarcity future where we've eliminated homelessness and stuff. I wonder if that was the intent
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Worf says all of their remains would be lost five hundred years later if they died too, but what about the communicators
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Time's Arrow is a pretty divisive episode in this thread but it's one of my favorites. Possibly because it's one of the earliest ones I can remember seeing.
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I don't see what could be so divisive about it so far, other than the plot holes that inevitably come with every time travel plot ever. Well, except Homestuck.
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