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Melchiresa posted:Ok, which one of you did this i know the historical inaccuracies have been highlighted but like, that's completely believable for some C-grade liberal arts kids trying to out-nerd each other over dead poo poo nobody else cares about. like the dudes who never do the reading but try debating the professor anyway? y'all never interacted with that particular type of dweeb before?
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PetraCore posted:Zoos are essential organizations for animal preservation and help conserve species and breed them to be reintroduced into the wild, as well as designing enclosures to fit the animals' comforts and needs. Obviously it's still her choice, but disapproving of all zoos everywhere as opposed to low-budget zoos that can't properly care for their animals or zoos that train animals to perform isn't exactly the most logical. they also believe in and engage in mass euthanasia of dogs and cats, to the point where they will literally steal people's pets off their porch to put them down quote:The controversy dates to Nov. 5, when Jean Carey, 54, and Jennifer Lisa Woods, 52, of Virginia Beach were arrested and charged with larceny of a dog. Maya's owner Wilbur Cerate said they took his pet Chihuahua from his porch. you can't make this poo poo up Mirthless fucked around with this message at 04:01 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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ONE LAST PETA/ZOO COMMENT: People who argue that it's wrong to keep animals in zoos, even zoos that spend vast amounts of money making sure the animals are in the proper environment and mentally and emotionally stimulated, because it'd be wrong to do the same to a human, are people who vastly misunderstand the differences between human and animal cognition. 'Freedom' is a pretty abstract concept that most animals probably can't grasp and projecting onto them rather than studying animal cognition in an attempt to figure out what a specific animal needs to be happy is a fast track to widespread animal abuse, sadly. That's why PETA's over-anthropomorphizing of animals is actually super dangerous and slips fairly quickly into abuse, such as kidnapping and killing pets because 'death is better than slavery'.
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That being said, there are certainly cases where animals in captivity perform differently or worse than in the wild and that does need to be taken into consideration.
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fruit on the bottom posted:That being said, there are certainly cases where animals in captivity perform differently or worse than in the wild and that does need to be taken into consideration. tbh this is like 99% of cases. But animals in captivity perform better than animals dead from loss of habitat in 100% of cases, soooo... good job zoos?
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fruit on the bottom posted:That being said, there are certainly cases where animals in captivity perform differently or worse than in the wild and that does need to be taken into consideration. Anyway this is why captive orcas pretty often engage in self-harm or even kill their handlers, they're basically being kept in solitary confinement, it's not great. SeaWorld sucks and I don't think orcas should be kept in captivity for entertainment purposes, ever, and other purposes would REALLY have to outweigh the psychological damage caused by even the best attempts.
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therobit posted:I don't agree with PETA, but they get a bad rap from sensationalized reporting. I know someone who works for them and she is sane, smart, and level headed, even if she is a vegan and won't take her kid to he zoo. Really nice person. You know who else was a vegetarian who loved animals? Adolf Hitler No, really, he actually really loved animals, a lot more than people. as it turns out, this is a trait that is not unique to good people. they went so far as to make it illegal to boil crabs and lobsters and sent fishermen to concentration camps
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Straight White Shark posted:tbh this is like 99% of cases. But animals in captivity perform better than animals dead from loss of habitat in 100% of cases, soooo... good job zoos?
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Mirthless posted:they went so far as to make it illegal to boil crabs and lobsters and sent fishermen to concentration camps That escalated pretty drat fast
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it should probably be obvious that i'm being facetious but seriously the presence of one good person in a horrible organization does not make that organization good and just because something sounds good on paper (like PETA or tougher animal rights laws) doesn't mean that's how it operates in practice it doesn't help that Ingrid Newkirk is a terrible person who would probably gladly open up concentration camps for people if given the opportunity, she certainly has no problem making light of the holocaust on a regular basis
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Mirthless posted:it should probably be obvious that i'm being facetious but seriously the presence of one good person in a horrible organization does not make that organization good and just because something sounds good on paper (like PETA or tougher animal rights laws) doesn't mean that's how it operates in practice Doesn’t she also use animal-based insulin, insisting it’s because of how important to animal welfare she is?
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Doesn’t she also use animal-based insulin, insisting it’s because of how important to animal welfare she is? That's Mary Beth Sweetland.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Doesn’t she also use animal-based insulin, insisting it’s because of how important to animal welfare she is? it's not her, a couple of members of their board are insulin dependant though you're right about the rationale, they're opposed to any animal derived products except stuff they need/use/want because they're doing it "for the animals"
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Mirthless posted:it's not her, a couple of members of their board are insulin dependant though
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PetraCore posted:Wait, so they'd be okay with other diabetics dying? Eh, they probably eat meat or wear leather or have pets or look at deer funny, they don't deserve to live
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flick my Mr. Bean posted:My favorite part of the Pete story is the very end. quote:EDIT: OK I KNOW I hosed UP. What should I do? That can be the default title, for whenever the old one overstays its welcome. ps. quote:He told me that I should look to be with someone who wasn't so abusive. That's some master level sarcasm right there.
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Pretty sure every single other sane animal welfare organisation despises PETA because everything they do is basically actively detrimental to the cause, prioritising attention whore stunts over actual action and solutions, and actively killing pets at every opportunity, sometimes stealing them to do so.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Doesn’t she also use animal-based insulin, insisting it’s because of how important to animal welfare she is? Why not use biosynthetic insulin?
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Mirthless posted:they also believe in and engage in mass euthanasia of dogs and cats, to the point where they will literally steal people's pets off their porch to put them down Hm, don't tag your dog and let it roam free in the neighborhood while you know people are going around collecting stray animals? PETA screwed up here if the dog was chipped, but thats one irresponsible dog owner.
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Taking a leather purse that was a gift and damaging it for an instagram photo is top tier shithead behavior. If you are opposed to leather goods for animal rights reasons then sell the purse, that animal is already dead, and donate the money to something you care about. You just reduced demand for leather goods and made a donation in one go. Ripping it and coating it in tar for instagram likes is super childish.
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Thumbtacks posted:can someone repost this story, it's excellent I know it's pages back but I still loving love how she jumps immediately to declaring him abusive so she can do whatever she wants, and he actually does the rational thing and nopes the gently caress out. Also how "I hate ultimatums, they are the tools of abusers" reads like something a parody of a human being would say. Godspeed, Pete, thanks for everything.
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Werong Bustope posted:Ok this one's long as hell so I'm going to link it but here are the highlights. The plot thickens: quote:[–]AnonJohn112 [score hidden] 11 hours ago
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Tiny Bug Child posted:My [35 F] daughter [12 F] wants to wear an anime-themed Halloween costume. My husband [40 M] and I disagree on if it's appropriate or not.Non-Romantic I know this one's from a while back but it made me think of a blog link that used to make the rounds in the AUG threads where a person who'd been molested detailed how anime had been used to groom them by making them think the molestation was a normal thing. I can't find the link so for all I know it got pulled, but drat the otaku were in a tizzy over it because it dared to call into question their beloved animes. Barudak posted:Dude needs the hell clock i was gifted in college, designed, I assume, by argentian nazi clones. It had a non negotiable 3 senses wake up system consisting of a piercing alarm sound that when you hit snooze went to sleep for a random interval of minutes from 1-7, a light that slowly turned up the light intensity from on to somehow even more on, and wafted out your choice of smells like “moldering rear end” and “currently active house fire”. To turn off this mechanical hell beast you had to push snooze and flip a switch on it simultaneously as, guess what, it had battery backup cells so unplugging it did nothing. Or the vintage alarm clock I had in High School. It was one of those with the bells on top ones from the 30s, even had glow in the dark numbers so for all I know it might've been an actual radium clock. But it had the loudest ticking and the alarm was loud enough to be heard through the house. Only way to shut it off was forcing the lever arm on the top to stop the hammer strike and by that time there was no chance of going back to sleep.
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LadyPictureShow posted:The plot thickens: they both post exactly the same way, i think this person just likes being the center of drama and is sockpuppeting C.H.O.M.E posted:Hm, don't tag your dog and let it roam free in the neighborhood while you know people are going around collecting stray animals? PETA screwed up here if the dog was chipped, but thats one irresponsible dog owner. lol if you'd actually read the article the PETA members knew who the dog belonged to as the owner of the house had met with them about some feral cats earlier in the week apparently they lured the dog off the porch with treats imagine being this person, the kind of person who would smugly say "GOOD" when they hear somebody stole someone's pet solely to euthanize it PetraCore posted:Wait, so they'd be okay with other diabetics dying? Yes They genuinely believe that they are the only ones who have the moral standing to use it Mirthless fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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[quote="“Mirthless”" post="“477270212”"] lol if you’d actually read the article the PETA members knew who the dog belonged to as the owner of the house had met with them about some feral cats earlier in the week apparently they lured the dog off the porch with treats imagine being this person, the kind of person who would smugly say “GOOD” when they hear somebody stole someone’s pet solely to euthanize it [/quote] I did read the article, which is how i know that the dog owner knew they were in the neighborhood clearing out stray animals. If you know people are actively looking for stray animals in your neighborhood to euthanize them, you should not let your pet look like a stray, thats insanely irresponsible pet ownership. I never said "good", but the dog owner showed a remarkable lack of foresight.
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I am not a fan of PETAs tactics, but that guy is a lovely dog owner.
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Was there any update to the anime/daughter post? That one was legit scary and made me cringe.
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once a dog leaves its yard and enters greater suburbia, it's guaranteed a slow death from exposure. killing it early is a mercy.
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If it's the Norfolk Zoo your friend who works for PETA won't take her kid too, she's loving dumb and missing out on a great zoo and organization.
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C.H.O.M.E posted:I did read the article, which is how i know that the dog owner knew they were in the neighborhood clearing out stray animals. If you know people are actively looking for stray animals in your neighborhood to euthanize them, you should not let your pet look like a stray, thats insanely irresponsible pet ownership. they literally sat on the porch with the owner while the dog was there way to play devil's advocate for people who knowingly murdered somebody's dog for no reason btw they were rounding up strays because the strays were attacking cattle, why in the gently caress would they round up a chihuahua? pretty sure a chihuahua would collapse in a puddle of it's own piss if a cow got anywhere near it. i'm just not seeing a pack of chihuahuas taking down a cow. i mean, i'm seeing it in my head, and that's hilarious, but it's probably not a realistic scenario. these were people with an agenda and that agenda was relieving people of their pets Mirthless fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Does it count if the worst dog bite I ever got was from a chihuahua? Looking back I can kinda laugh at having been around german shepards, dobermans, and pitbulls without a problem, but it's the chihuahua that I get bit and needed stitches from.
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Chihuahuas aren't dogs. They're little balls of hate and fear.
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[quote="„blarzgh“" post="„477271871“"] Chihuahuas aren’t dogs. They’re little balls of hate and fear. [/quote] They are so superior, that they get carried instead of walking themself. Preferable in a little handbag.
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Mirthless posted:they literally sat on the porch with the owner while the dog was there PETA were there with him 3 weeks ago to remove cats, they easily could have not remembered this was his dog, and the article doesn't even state that the workers who cleared out the cats three weeks earlier were the same workers that took the dog, you just don't know that they knowingly took someones dog to murder it, sorry, not from that article. Seems to me like if he'd been a responsible dog owner and had a tag or tied up the dog, it would be fine, like his other dogs that weren't taken because they were tied up. Also, if you think small dogs cant be aggressive because they're small, thats just wrong. No dog "took down" any cow, but the udders were bitten, which sounds exactly like something a small dog thats not contained or tied up could easily do.
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C.H.O.M.E posted:PETA were there with him 3 weeks ago to remove cats, they easily could have not remembered this was his dog, and the article doesn't even state that the workers who cleared out the cats three weeks earlier were the same workers that took the dog, you just don't know that they knowingly took someones dog to murder it, sorry, not from that article. you are Mirthlessing harder than i have ever Mirthlessed in this thread and i'm Mirthless
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itt i learned that the people that took a dog, euthenised it and then apologised to the owner with flowers are not the bad people
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Fil5000 posted:itt i learned that the people that took a dog, euthenised it and then apologised to the owner with flowers are not the bad people it was a fruit basket they were makin' it right, because Jesus wants them to have a clean slate Mirthless fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Ham Sandwiches posted:This is amazing I just searched on Amazon and seems like some real poo poo running around the room swearing chasing an alarm that is literally fleeing from you first thing in the morning There are also flying alarm clocks, it has really low reviews, I have yet to read them, but I am hoping some of the zero/1 stars are "This thing chopped off my finger when I attempted to turn it off" https://www.amazon.com/Northwest-80...0_&dpSrc=detail *edit* sadly the thing is just a piece of poo poo apparently, breaks easily, doesn't fly/alarm, this is the most disappointed I've been with regards to amazon reviews, ever. MF_James fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Oct 11, 2017 |
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Mirthless posted:it should probably be obvious that i'm being facetious but seriously the presence of one good person in a horrible organization does not make that organization good and just because something sounds good on paper (like PETA or tougher animal rights laws) doesn't mean that's how it operates in practice Yeah I just want to add that my sister worked for PETA, did several protests, and was in one of their stupid strip videos (which we heard about from friends after they saw it on late night TV). She's a good person, she doesn't shove her veganism in people's faces, doesn't make faces when we eat meat in front of her, doesn't mind zoos, but even she is still a moron when it comes to PETA despite having worked for them. This is literally the only argument she and I still get into, about whether or not they do any good. These days I don't bother to fight her on it because it's not worth the hassle. She was even working for them during that whole van full of dead animals fiasco. In short PETA is horrible and they exploit young women. You can make your lovely message heard without telling girls they need to strip to their underwear in public. EDIT: Oh god I forgot that there was a thread about her here when it happened. Holy gently caress it was so hard not to post in that thread.
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