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SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
You do not have to accept a rez immediately. There is something like a ninety second timer on it before it expires? Watch the fight, look for a quiet bit, or right after raidwide damage comes out, _then_ accept.

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The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



Also if you stay still after being ressed you get to keep your invulnerability for a bit longer than if you started moving immediatly, which can help if you simply must get up during raid damage.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?

SonicRulez posted:

That's actually super cool. The emphasis on the book made me feel like next go around was going to be influenced by Tactics Advanced.

Can't wait for Marche to show up to try to destroy everything in order to "wake us up" from this fantasy world.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

HOOLY BOOLY posted:

Also if you stay still after being ressed you get to keep your invulnerability for a bit longer than if you started moving immediatly, which can help if you simply must get up during raid damage.

Iirc you can move, just don't take actions

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I hugged Garuda during her ultimate and she dropped a Nightmare Whistle which I managed to roll successfully for.

:stare:

AngusPodgorny
Jun 3, 2004

Please to be restful, it is only a puffin that has from the puffin place outbroken.

jalapeno_dude posted:

What are your stats? Looks like I can do almost that well with bare minimum stats required to start the craft and 470 CP just from messing around with a Muscle Memory/Hasty Touch based rotation. I liked this method already in 3.x (macroable so much less of a chance to screw it up) rather than something Rath-like and Manipulation 2/Patient Touch/Hasty Touch 2 all make it seem even more appealing. If you have more CP or stats to play with it should be easy to get a much better HQ chance.

["muscleMemory","comfortZone","innerQuiet","manipulation2","steadyHand2","pieceByPiece","patientTouch","hastyTouch","hastyTouch","ha styTouch","steadyHand2","hastyTouch","hastyTouch","hastyTouch","hastyTouch","comfortZone","mastersMend2","steadyHand2","hastyTouch", "greatStrides","ingenuity2","carefulSynthesis2","byregotsBlessing","carefulSynthesis3","carefulSynthesis3","carefulSynthesis3","care fulSynthesis2"] is the import string for http://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net/#/simulator if you want to mess around. Can probably be optimized further even with these stats - I'm on mobile where editing is painful so all I did was make sure I could fit in 2 Comfort Zones and still have CP for Byregot's Blessing.
I'm at minimum craftsmanship/control and 457 cp before tempura/tea. Although this looks like a rotation for the original 2* recipes, since it ended up short with 5188/6377 progress and 11765/28506 quality on snailfish oil. For the original 2* recipes, I macroed everything using Muscle Memory, but it doesn't seem feasible for the new stuff. Especially since the crafts involve things like demimateria and vendor ingredients so I can't even start with all HQ components.

I see that the optimizer has been updated, which is going to be more convenient than messing with rotations in Excel.

jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015

AngusPodgorny posted:

I'm at minimum craftsmanship/control and 457 cp before tempura/tea. Although this looks like a rotation for the original 2* recipes, since it ended up short with 5188/6377 progress and 11765/28506 quality on snailfish oil. For the original 2* recipes, I macroed everything using Muscle Memory, but it doesn't seem feasible for the new stuff. Especially since the crafts involve things like demimateria and vendor ingredients so I can't even start with all HQ components.

I see that the optimizer has been updated, which is going to be more convenient than messing with rotations in Excel.

Oh GDI they added new specialist recipes, the assholes. gently caress.

AngusPodgorny
Jun 3, 2004

Please to be restful, it is only a puffin that has from the puffin place outbroken.
Yeah they tricked us by making us think things were going to be nice and pleasant and Maker's Mark would be no more, then unleashed recipes that take like 90 steps and a lot of luck.

jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015
So the 4.1 MSQ has you visit the Gold Saucer. Does anyone know how they handle this if you haven't done the quest to unlock it?

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Ran through Rabanastre with some buddies. Managed to get some godawful healers that were super opposed to rezzing anyone in the party for minutes at a time. Actually wanted to punch them when I saw them doting each other after a wipe.

And yet still not as awful as Alliance B(ad).

jalapeno_dude posted:

So the 4.1 MSQ has you visit the Gold Saucer. Does anyone know how they handle this if you haven't done the quest to unlock it?

I imagine it doesn't do anything special and you need to unlock it to continue the story.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

AngusPodgorny posted:

Yeah they tricked us by making us think things were going to be nice and pleasant and Maker's Mark would be no more, then unleashed recipes that take like 90 steps and a lot of luck.

The good news is that the new gear isn't necessary for anything yet. Making the new gear only makes making the new gear easier.

POLICE CAR AUCTION
Dec 1, 2003

I'm not a princess



Hi friends, enjoy a pleasant view of Mist and look for not-Waldo while the servers are down

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

jalapeno_dude posted:

So the 4.1 MSQ has you visit the Gold Saucer. Does anyone know how they handle this if you haven't done the quest to unlock it?

I imagine it wouldn't be too different from trying to do the Red Mage questline without it unlocked.

jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I imagine it wouldn't be too different from trying to do the Red Mage questline without it unlocked.

...and what happens then?

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



Does anybody have a screenshot of Theodoric's portrait from Skalla because I need to show my best friend the best hair in the game.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Vanderdeath posted:

Does anybody have a screenshot of Theodoric's portrait from Skalla because I need to show my best friend the best hair in the game.

I want that painting.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

Vanderdeath posted:

Does anybody have a screenshot of Theodoric's portrait from Skalla because I need to show my best friend the best hair in the game.

Solo Wing Pixy
Aug 5, 2008

It's an amanojaku!
And it hates you so much!

jalapeno_dude posted:

So the 4.1 MSQ has you visit the Gold Saucer. Does anyone know how they handle this if you haven't done the quest to unlock it?

I'm not sure, but there must be some sort of workaround, because the Chinese version of the game doesn't have the Gold Saucer at all because of Chinese laws about showing gambling in video games. Unless that changed recently, but I can't see the Party revising laws for some two-bit Japanese game developer for some reason. Of course, they may just have a special version of the quest in the CN version.

Extremely minor spoiler for the 4.1 dungeon: I always feel really bad when your character frowns or looks sad at the end of a dungeon. :smith:

x1o
Aug 5, 2005

My focus is UNPARALLELED!

Vanderdeath posted:

Does anybody have a screenshot of Theodoric's portrait from Skalla because I need to show my best friend the best hair in the game.



then someone sent me this and I'm dying

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Rhymenoserous posted:

I want that hair.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


I think the shattered statue of Theodoric in the Lochs has the same hair but it really is more magnificent in that painting.

Astroniomix
Apr 24, 2015



jalapeno_dude posted:

...and what happens then?

IIRC you have to go do the quest that unlocks it.

Farg
Nov 19, 2013
i thought that the mad king was au ra because of that hair

Tenik
Jun 23, 2010


This is a shot in the dark, but does anyone know what happens in the Chinese version? It doesn't have the gold saucer in it.

Kobata
Oct 11, 2012

Tenik posted:

This is a shot in the dark, but does anyone know what happens in the Chinese version? It doesn't have the gold saucer in it.

They don't have 4.1 yet. I think they just launched 4.0 a week or two ago there.

Rhonne
Feb 13, 2012

Do you want to know what we do to artists?
You would think that that hair would be people's first clue that their king wasn't all right in the head.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas
After nearly two years of blithely ignoring PVP I've gotten the Garo stuff done and developed a mania for getting the blue Shatter orb. My worry, though, is that once the new Frontine mode hits, Shatter is going to dry up-- lord knows I've barely ever seen either of the other two modes in roulette. I'm at 71/100 wins and was planning on just portioning out a few wins a day between now and the next update. However, I guess people are occupied with the patch because queues have gotten pretty long.

Should I really just drop everything and grind out my last 29 in the next couple of weeks, or do you think Shatter will still be relatively popular for a bit? Should I give up on my orb dreams?

Edit: fwiw I think I'm pretty decent at PVP, not wonderful-- on a team that's functional I pull my weight but I'm certainly not good enough to carry people being lazy or distracted, which is what a lot of Maelstrom teams I've gotten lately have been. Late night in particular it seems that 8v8v8 matches are largely Maelstrom vs. 16 bots, and people still manage to lose.

How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Oct 12, 2017

Note Block
May 14, 2007

nothing could fit so perfectly inside




Fun Shoe
Is the one-per account restriction on Tales of Adventure books lifted? I remember reading that it would be lifted in 4.1 but didn't see it in the patch notes.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo
Didn't a brand new pvp mode just land? The moba-like one? That's probably where everyone's gone.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Note Block posted:

Is the one-per account restriction on Tales of Adventure books lifted? I remember reading that it would be lifted in 4.1 but didn't see it in the patch notes.

It absolutely is.

Go buckwild. Or not. It's your money.

How Wonderful!
Jul 18, 2006


I only have excellent ideas

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Didn't a brand new pvp mode just land? The moba-like one? That's probably where everyone's gone.

Not yet, I think it's coming with the next patch.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:

Hi friends, enjoy a pleasant view of Mist and look for not-Waldo while the servers are down



How long until Shirogane wards are laden with meme houses.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Archyduke posted:

Not yet, I think it's coming with the next patch.

Then I would suggest to the goon seeking to farm the thing to put the pedal to the medal.

I also found that several macros with canned phrases made winning almost automatic for each of

* North Big Ice
* Center big ice
* SE big ice
* SW big ice
* don't get sandwiched
* fall back to A
* we need bodies back at base

Add <se.1> at the end to make them harder to ignore. FFS, so many people use danger bongos instead, nobody can hear those things in PVP, don't use danger bongos.

And be quick about calling out ices, and you generally should win more games than lose.

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Danger bongos get easily drowned out which is why you add five+ of them to every macro :colbert:

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
Patch notes

no reference to the ARC squadron members' insane damage being changed/fixed so people still have some time to milk that for quick dungeon clears

HiKaizer
Feb 2, 2012

Yes!
I finally understand everything there is to know about axes!
I'm not on the same data centre as you but please use sound effect macros in Shatter sparingly. I've had matches with people who would spam them five times in a row and it gave me a headache on top of just making me spiteful. Oh I'm sorry no healing for you anymore.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Gives me flashbacks to
BERSERK ENDING IN 5 <se.1>
4 <se.1>
3 <se.1>
2 <se.1>
1 <se.1>
ESUNA NOW !!!! !!!! !!!! !!!!!! !!!! !!!! !!!!!!!! !!! <se.1>


"nah <se.fuk u buddy>"

HiKaizer
Feb 2, 2012

Yes!
I finally understand everything there is to know about axes!
Good news. That still exists in living dead macros.

Reiterpallasch
Nov 3, 2010



Fun Shoe
/p <se.1> i see your berserk macro, and will not cleanse you because you do less damage per gcd than me.
/p <se.2> maybe bother the bard?

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Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Servers are up

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