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Today Trump threatened on multiple occasions to challenge the broadcast license of NBC because they're fake news. Broadcast licensing does not work like that, but that doesn't stop freep from being freep.
quote:To: z3n
Agree, but indirectly claiming that NBC’s conduct and use of radio spectrum isn’t in the public interest, convenience or necessity is a good pot stirrer!
Besides, this can also be a poke at the Democrats and the FEC’s (Fed Election Commission) whining about Matt Drudge and Sean Hannity and clamoring for regulation of internet and cable network content.
Hey, GOPe! This is how you fight back.
20 posted on 10/11/2017, 7:46:41 AM by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
quote:To: bryan999
TRUMP tweet: With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC... challenge their License?
Go Trump! YES!!!! This is exactly the attitude we should have been taking with these F***ing Democrat Propaganda networks. They need to be broken and smashed, and they need legal assaults against them from every direction possible.
We either destroy Liberal Control of the news services, or they will eventually destroy us.
Go Trump!
28 posted on 10/11/2017, 8:05:43 AM by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
From another thread
quote:quote:To: Boomer
This little authoritarian streak is the reason I’ve never fully trusted Trump.
7 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:08:53 AM by SSS Two
Thank you. If Obama said this, we’d rightfully be going berserk.
31 posted on 10/11/2017 12:00:44 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
And a third thread.
quote:To: E. Pluribus Unum
These hyperventilating twits have forgotten the Democrat “Fairness Doctrine” they used to silence conservatives before Reagan got rid of it.
26 posted on 10/11/2017, 2:08:47 PM by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
Almost every other reply across three threads, about a hundred posts total, was either a variation on "yeah, that's how you troll'em" or increasingly wrong explanations of how broadcast licensing works. I honestly expected lots more from these threads.
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The #1 topic on freep today was the Weinstein thing. The #2 topic was Las Vegas. The #3 topic?
Boy Scouts to admit girls into Cub Scouts, establish new program posted by freeper markomalley
quote:Frankly this is not surprising in the wake of the Boy Scouts admitting sodomites.
1 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:22:12 AM by markomalley
quote:To: markomalley
Is this not what the girl scouts are for?
What happens if the boys want to start selling cookies?
What happens when a BOY outsells all the girls selling cookies?
4 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:25:52 AM by woodbutcher1963
quote:To: markomalley
Just an action on the part of the Boy Scouts that will promote transgender scouts. . .what’s another “girl”?
6 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:26:47 AM by Maudeen (This world is not my home.)
quote:To: FlingWingFlyer
We return to normal when every last one of these perverts are purged from our land.
7 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:27:12 AM by Kalamata (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out - D. Horowitz)
Freep opinions: Girls being allowed to join the Boy Scouts is a sign of the impending apocalypse.
quote:To: Kalamata
We will return to better than normal when Jesus comes back and it maybe sooner than one thinks.
11 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:28:34 AM by Maudeen (This world is not my home.)
quote:Comment #12 Removed by Moderator
First paragraph: "Oh, they should love this then. I can't wait to put an actual positive post in the thread. I love contras-"
Second paragraph: "godfuckingdamnit"
quote:To: markomalley
I have to admit it, the Boy Scouts always seemed better of the two scouting groups, even back 30 years ago. The lefties destroyed the girl scouts with their feminists BS and stupid tea socials. I wanted to camp and fish and build cool things!!!
I don’t see this move to help girls at all but to load the Boy Scouts with Libtard feminists!!!
19 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:31:10 AM by dragonblustar (I love reading Trump tweets in the morning.)
quote:To: markomalley
This will make it easier for peds with diverse taste in children.
20 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:31:25 AM by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
quote:To: markomalley
Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Cub Scouts, Brownies, etc. have all been DESTROYED by the left.
It’s over! We LOST this one. Do NOT enroll your kids in Scouts. If they are in it already, pull them out immediately. Let it die.
THEN, MAYBE, we can start it over again, once we defeat, no annihilate, the liberals.
29 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:42:31 AM by faucetman (Ju"st the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
This post is apparently by the guy that posted deleted #12
quote:To: Reno89519
No, I’m tired of the gross ignorance on Free Republic concerning BSA. The fact the rules were changed has no bearing on queers as leaders or Scouts. There are thousand of good leaders who have taken the Youth Protection training and are very much aware of the spectre of queer leaders.
Church choirs have more molesters than BSA.
34 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:49:40 AM by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
quote:To: bert
Liberals are trying to turn the scouts into the Hitler Youth. Another organization where libs can get their mitts on large numbers of kids at one time to indoctrinate them.
That’s the only reason they are doing this.
35 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:52:53 AM by EQAndyBuzz (“The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.” - DJT)
#12: deleted. This: kept.
quote:To: markomalley
I thought the Boy Scouts closed. I haven’t seen a boy scout in 5 years.They took human being scout masters and i thought that was it.
37 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:54:12 AM by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, we’re building that wall.”)
 GIRL SCOUTS DON'T NEED TO BELIEVE IN GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quote:To: markomalley
I’ve seen a state’s girl scout permission form that actually makes it a point to state that a belief in God is not required to join. Also there is a site with suggestions for an ecumenical service during girl scout week offering sample prayers Muslim, Hindu, Indian, Christian, Catholic etc. and a statement that reads “it is a time to Honor God”. Well, in my case I serve a mighty God. . .There is but one God . . God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
To hold such a service in a church (of Christian Faith) would be blasphemous. Most parents have no clue what is going on behind the scenes.
hxxp://susumc.org/files/resources/mediaweekly/2017/Girl-Scout-Sunday-Sabbath-Service-Ideas.pdf
40 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:58:21 AM by Maudeen (This world is not my home.)
At this point the thread is discussing minutia of the loving Tribulation. No, really, this is the goddamn end of the world for freep.
Not the first to make this crack, just the first in this thread.
quote:To: markomalley
Do they have a cross dressing merit badge now?
49 posted on 10/11/2017, 11:02:44 AM by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a drat.)
Freep opinions: all gay men are child molesters therefore all lesbians are child molesters.
quote:To: markomalley
The little girls will be safe until lesbians are allowed to be scout masters.
53 posted on 10/11/2017, 11:07:13 AM by Uncle Sam 911
Man they're really upset about gay people being treated fairly.
quote:To: markomalley
Pathetic. First the faggots, now girls? I thought they had their own program? Time to establish a new version of the BS.
65 posted on 10/11/2017, 11:19:57 AM by beergarden
No really, it's the end of the world.
quote:To: markomalley
Then they will play the old game of show me yours and I will show you mine, and then we can decide which sex you are, or want to be, and also. Nothing is sacred anymore. God has turned America over to a reprobate mind. They believe the lie and He is letting them believe it. The Scriptures prophesied these days, and those days are HERE, RIGHT NOW!!!
75 posted on 10/11/2017, 11:43:41 AM by RetiredArmy (We are in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! Do U know Him?)
quote:To: FlingWingFlyer
There won’t even be such a thing as boys or girls eventually.
Satan at work.
84 posted on 10/11/2017, 12:04:55 PM by windowdude
And one from another thread:
quote:To: Blue House Sue
New patches:
Nail Polish
Hair Dye
Ear piercing
Needlecraft
Bracelets
Cookies
Jewelry
Color Coordination
Shoes
Pillowfight
16 posted on 10/11/2017, 3:37:50 PM by DannyTN
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From a thread on Roy Moore income shenanigains,
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King David committed adultery and murder. One of Jesus’s titles is what again? Son of David?
Not comparing the two really, just won’t condemn a man that’s being attacked by demons from hell.
8 posted on 10/11/2017, 10:17:43 AM by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King!)
I don't know how you meant that ... but I take it as literal truth. The 'Rats really are the "demonicRats" ... Their pro-death, pro-perversion, anti-Christ ideology comes from the pit of hell.
25 posted on 10/11/2017 10:37:19 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
quote:To: NRx
Said this yesterday or the day before..
In Nazi Germany they controlled the people through propaganda.
The Nazis are trying the same thing in the USA. Thats right, the Nazi party never was destroyed, it moved to the USA and is the US democrat party.
34 posted on 10/11/2017, 11:08:34 AM by crz
Too tired to continue tonight, so here are some possibly juicy threads if one of you is bored.
The title from that last one is from an actual article.
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Weren't we able to recover deleted posts in the past? How did that work, and is it still possible? I know some were exceptionally insane, while others seemed to be equally mundane.
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#12: deleted. This: kept.
Using the term "human being" hasn't been deletion-worthy for a while now. You see it pop up all the time in any "HomosexualAgenda" threads. It's one of the only slurs they can get away with using, and some people take all sorts of advantage of that.
Which begs the question, just how anti-gay do you need to be to get something deleted from this hellsite?
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Freeper posted:
To hold such a service in a church (of Christian Faith) would be blasphemous. Most parents have no clue what is going on behind the scenes.
It seems to me what's blasphemous is forcing non-believers to participate in a Christian service. You're forcing or encouraging them to pretend to believe something they don't. It's literally teaching them to take the Lord's name in vain.
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Some thoughts on how we might get from where we’re at now to a Second Civil War
Um... actually you'll find it was about state's rights...
quote:To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Our first Civil War was primarily about slavery”
Of course it had nothing to do with economics or states rights.
5 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 08:39:29 GMT-0700 (PDT) by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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A left wing troll (even though a retired LTC) dreams of a civil war to send the political right to “extinction.”
He has no idea how bloody and messy it would be and how badly the left would lose.
He can’t even get the cause of the Civil War correct.
6 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 08:40:52 GMT-0700 (PDT) by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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The Left always accuses their opposition of doing what they are doing. It tells me that the Left (and the Swamp in general) is dead-serious about declaring war on the American People.
Foreign Policy magazine is a place where these elites have talked to one another, signaling their intentions, for decades.
8 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 08:41:22 GMT-0700 (PDT) by Buckeye McFrog
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Hillary! 
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I think the NFL controversy answered it.
There are a few assholes out there that get way too much air time and America stood up and said...enough... to the industry. Those few spoiled it for owners, players and most of all the American customer.
I would think those few represent the over stated gangs of marxist muslim Hillary supporters which get way too much airtime from the medias. Also, I really doubt the dimension of her support base, we see it in the fraud, we saw it in her ability to fill stadiums when she was on the campaign trail. She’s too much horse poo poo.
10 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 08:42:48 GMT-0700 (PDT) by himno hero (hadnuff)
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First we send DREAMERS home.
Then we destroy the Democrat Party and replace them with the GOPE... Then we recruit conservative Hispanics to the GOPA (Grand Old Party Americans) and keep power...
Trump declares a ‘win’.
Result: No Civil War...
11 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 08:42:49 GMT-0700 (PDT) by GOPJ (IF Mexicans rob a bank should their "innocent DREAMERS" be allowed to keep the money?)
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Yep. It’s the left that’s getting radicalized. It’s the “social activists” who are getting whipped into a frenzy and fomented with hatred.
I posit, it’s the highest levels of foreign and anti-american puppet strings that are trying to start a civil war and they are doing it by making everyone that the democrat party has already isolated into groups into alienated victim groups.
This article telegraphs that strategy. They want to form a coalition of victim groups for power, and once that power is established, I don’t think they are going to get what they think it will be. None of those sub groups are going to get the reins. It’s the puppet-master that planned it all that will take over.
18 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 08:47:41 GMT-0700 (PDT) by z3n
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But not being murderous of mind like the left, it does not dawn on us that if the enemy leadership has enough “accidents” the leaderless rabble will disperse.
Or, to put it another way: Leftist leaders...can't live with 'em, can't kill 'em...YET.
37 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 09:11:15 GMT-0700 (PDT) by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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Soros!
quote:To: 2ndDivisionVet
This left-wing globalist traitor to America and the Constitution and is probably on Soros’ payroll. I wonder if he is friends on Facebook with the commie West Point grad, Spenser Rapone?
Foreign Policy mag is a pro-globalist propaganda rag.
41 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 09:24:51 GMT-0700 (PDT) by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis & other Totalitarians: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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It's around this point that the thread devolves into the inevitable "State's Rights vs Slavery" slap fight and the original topic is more or less forgotten.
quote:To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't think these people really understand the first Civil War. Commenting upon a new civil war, without understanding the last one, is the clear problem with this article. The South was not aggressive as portrayed by this author, and had no plans to destabilize or invade the Union. Fort Sumter was ‘Confederate land now illegally occupied by a hostile force that they asked to leave’. The Confederacy's plan was one of local defense and self governance. Lincoln antagonized the south to war, because he wanted to rejoin the nation. Longstreet's comment that “we should have freed the slaves and then fired on Ft. Sumter” demonstrates that the South's main goal was not slavery, but self determination.
I agree we are at an ideological division here in the United States. Trump doesn't represent a ‘dying’ group of individuals, but a often silent political majority. The evidence is all around the media, and they ignore the reality that America is actually conservative. Further, the howls from the left for gun ‘control’ are being seen as a prelude from socialists to then use the typical pattern of ‘regulate’ then ‘confiscate’ then ‘genocide’ people whom do not agree with them. Left wing nuts, (Democratic Socialists, Communist Socialist) have used this pattern to seize and commit mass murder over the last century (Hitler, Stalin, Mao). Which is why I frequently say “Guns don't kill people, Socialists with Guns kill people.”
I don't want a Civil War, 6% of the US population died in the last one with primitive weapons. The inability to force socialism, progressivism, and ultimately an elite socialist state, will lead to further left wing nut frustration and violence. They are stacking failures, usually funded or supported by George Soros, and the ‘liberals/socialists/left wing nuts’ are now considering violence. This is a ‘trial balloon’ for left wing nuts to accept that violence will be needed to strong arm the ‘violent and racist right’.
We are entering dark times, brought on not by the election of Donald Trump, but by a previous POTUS who felt no obligation to rule of law or the Constitution. Washington DC has become power and money drunk, and the three letter acronyms have become corrupt and dangerous. This is where the real conflict lies, not on demographics, but on a belief that ‘elite’ forces can impose their will upon a free people.
48 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 09:40:15 GMT-0700 (PDT) by Pete Dovgan
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“Our first Civil War was primarily about slavery . . .”
That is an interesting comment.
I have to ask: If the South was fighting for slavery, who was fighting against slavery?
56 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 10:04:14 GMT-0700 (PDT) by jeffersondem
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quote:For those of us who love reading about American Indians, there is lots and lots of original literature written by first person observers from the time, including the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries.
Modern scholarship on Native Americans is a joke, it’s just a weapon in the ideological jihad against America by radical faculty. It’s all intended to support the genocide and racism narrative for modern political goals of open borders, redistribution, anti-white racism and ending national self-government.
6 posted on 10/11/2017, 5:44:53 PM by Meet the New Boss quote:Read “Empire of the Summer Moon”, an excellent history of the Comanche Indians in Texas and Oklahoma during the 1800’s.
I’ve read a lot of history books which dealt with wars, conquests, and tribal warfare. When it came to savagery, cruelty beyond imagination, and atrocities, the Comanches were absolutely the worst American Indian tribe by far.
After I read this book, it confirmed for me that some cultures/societies throughout human history deserved to be defeated and exterminated. The Comanches were one of these cultures.
12 posted on 10/11/2017, 5:52:20 PM by RooRoobird20 ("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
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Not every culture is equal and deserving to survive.
18 posted on 10/11/2017, 5:58:40 PM by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.) quote: They weren't called savages for nothing.
Now, they just scalp palefaces at the casinos.
42 posted on 10/11/2017, 7:37:11 PM by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!) quote:
I’ve studied the Indian Wars for decades; it has been a passion of mine ever since I was a kid.
The Indians were sadistic savages, towards other tribes and towards the hated Americans and the utterly despised Mexicans. The Indians reveled in the torture and debasement of captives; they saw it as entertainment.
If you ever have a chance, read “The Wild Frontier” by William M. Osborn. It will put to rest any fiction about “the Noble Red Man.”
43 posted on 10/11/2017, 7:47:57 PM by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.) quote:
People who identify as Americans don’t care much about concerns of Eurasian identity or American Indian identity.
46 posted on 10/11/2017, 8:24:02 PM by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy") quote:Seems to me I recall something about the tragedy of the Donner party being brought on in part at least because Indian tribes in the areas through which they had traveled had deliberately been killing their livestock as they went - apparently was only to harass the travelers whom they didn’t want moving through their region - thus when the Donners were eventually stranded in the deep mountain snows, they had less food available to them than they had contemplated - not very friendly on the part of those Indigenous Americans.....
47 posted on 10/11/2017, 8:31:59 PM by Intolerant in NJ quote:
I spent two years with the Indians of Western Canada. The Stoney tribe near Banff had a term for the Cree tribe just to the east of them, which was interpreted as “Wild Indians”. IOW, only the Stoney were civilized human beings, all the others were savages. No different that most every other culture has believed or currently believes.
48 posted on 10/11/2017, 8:33:56 PM by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!) quote:
Excellent post. Native Americans are just like all other humans and succumbed to the rule of nature, "survival of the fittest".
The Universities in this country need to be shut down. The nonsense they are teaching is criminal.
49 posted on 10/11/2017, 8:41:07 PM by Chgogal (Sessions recused himself for shaking an Ambassador's hand. Shameful!) quote:
56 posted on 10/11/2017, 9:26:22 PM by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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As the saying goes in the history field, if you know only a little bit about the American Civil War, you know it was about slavery. If you do some reading and learn about the ACW and how it started, you know it was a complex conflict tied up in conflicts of economics, state vs federal government, and race. If you know a lot about the ACW, you know it was about slavery.
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ACW was totally about economic concerns and state's rights. Specifically, it was about the economic pressures of trying to maintain a slave-based agrarian society in an age of increasingly mechanized manufacturing, and the question of weather or not states had the right to chose to be free societies or slave societies.
The answers were determined to be "unpleasant," and "no."
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and why peaceful manumission was impossible.
And, indeed, made increasingly harder and in places flat-out illegal by antebellum laws in several slave states (South Carolina most notoriously, it hardly needs to be said).
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Today Trump threatened on multiple occasions to challenge the broadcast license of NBC because they're fake news. Broadcast licensing does not work like that, but that doesn't stop freep from being freep.
The funny thing is Fox spent a good portion of time debating whether free speech was being restricted or not because everyone else was talking about Trump's fuckups while they were dancing around it trying to keep clear of the disaster
To: NRx
Said this yesterday or the day before..
In Nazi Germany they controlled the people through propaganda.
The Nazis are trying the same thing in the USA. Thats right, the Nazi party never was destroyed, it moved to the USA and is the US democrat party.
34 posted on 10/11/2017, 11:08:34 AM by crz
No, they're those "very fine people" Trump likes. They even state this themselves, they are NAZIS. You are allied with NAZIS
To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Our first Civil War was primarily about slavery”
Of course it had nothing to do with economics or states rights.
5 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 08:39:29 GMT-0700 (PDT) by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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No, it really didn't. It was pissed off southerners that were stirred up by politicians because the US government would not admit new states to the union that supported slavery. It was literally about people wanting to have slaves not getting their way.
"States rights!" sugar coat it all you want, both the situation before war and the Confederacy's own damned constitution were all about slavery and how to ensure it continued
quote:To: 2ndDivisionVet
“Our first Civil War was primarily about slavery . . .”
That is an interesting comment.
I have to ask: If the South was fighting for slavery, who was fighting against slavery?
56 posted on Wed Oct 11 2017 10:04:14 GMT-0700 (PDT) by jeffersondem
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Hurr hurr Lincoln/republicans....so tell me shitbird, if you're all for the "negro", why does your party spend resources purposely targeting blacks and other minorities and why do you yourself and others on your trailer trash site spend your time belittling and wishing harm on them?
They weren't called savages for nothing.
*pic of monument*
Now, they just scalp palefaces at the casinos.
42 posted on 10/11/2017, 7:37:11 PM by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
Well gee, I wonder what this says about White people with poo poo like Wounded Knee...ah hell, I know what the canned response from freep is on this
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You could split hairs and say that the North was initially fighting to preserve the Union and that had the South capitulated right then and there slavery would have survived the war, but by the point of Lincoln's re-election and the Emancipation Proclamation the North was very much fighting to end slavery.
The Republican party was founded with a complete focus on anti-slavery legislation. It barely even had any other policies before it got power. It wasn't going to let the slavers live and let live.
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Oh sure, slavery was on its way out even without the war, no argument there. Just saying the initial rallying call for the North was "Preserve the Union!" rather than "Free all the slaves!" - though they moved towards the latter cry as the war went on.
That's not incorrect, but you have to be careful about contextualizing it as Lost Causers looooove to point to it as (yet another) a reason why the war wasn't really about slavery but instead Northern tyranny which had forced the brave South to reluctantly seek its independence much as had the patriots of 1776 (whom they also willfully misunderstand).
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Oh sure, slavery was on its way out even without the war, no argument there. Just saying the initial rallying call for the North was "Preserve the Union!" rather than "Free all the slaves!" - though they moved towards the latter cry as the war went on.
The initial rallying cry for the North was "what the gently caress those crazy Southerners have actually fired on Federal troops on Federal installations". Because always remember, the confederacy started the loving war.
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- SocketWrench
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by Fritz the Horse
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Oh sure, slavery was on its way out even without the war, no argument there. Just saying the initial rallying call for the North was "Preserve the Union!" rather than "Free all the slaves!" - though they moved towards the latter cry as the war went on.
Even then I'm not as sure it was as much for the morality of freeing slaves as it was Lincoln being political and finding a way to keep France and England from sending the South aid.
Don't get me wrong, Lincoln and lots of others hated slavery, but the Emancipation Proclamation made the war strictly about slavery, something European powers couldn't get behind supporting the south for
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Oct 14, 2017 10:29
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- Corsair Pool Boy
- Dec 17, 2004
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College Slice
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Even then I'm not as sure it was as much for the morality of freeing slaves as it was Lincoln being political and finding a way to keep France and England from sending the South aid.
Don't get me wrong, Lincoln and lots of others hated slavery, but the Emancipation Proclamation made the war strictly about slavery, something European powers couldn't get behind supporting the south for
True, but by passing it, the war sort of de facto became about that.
To clarify: It was absolutely a political decision: waiting until after the 'victory' at Antietam, two years or so into the war, not freeing slaves in areas under federal control, etc. But by passing it, he made the war explicitly about slavery.
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Oct 14, 2017 11:32
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- SwingShift
- Apr 27, 2013
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It's always a bit gratifying to read up on their thoughts on Natives. Deep down those fuckers a still afraid of us, just enough to turn us into boogeymen like all the other people they're afraid of.
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Oct 14, 2017 16:21
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- evilmiera
- Dec 14, 2009
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Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
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I'm a bit sad almost, skimming Freep right now. The few threads I've seen on the EO stuff is pretty barebones.
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Oct 14, 2017 23:36
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- Jurgan
- May 8, 2007
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Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut
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No, it really didn't. It was pissed off southerners that were stirred up by politicians because the US government would not admit new states to the union that supported slavery. It was literally about people wanting to have slaves not getting their way.
"States rights!" sugar coat it all you want, both the situation before war and the Confederacy's own damned constitution were all about slavery and how to ensure it continued
And saying it was about "economics" is just a dodge. Sure, there were conflicts over economic matters, but when slaves are the single most valuable "commodity" in the country and the entire economy is intimately tied to the practice of slavery, you can't treat "economics" as an abstract issue.
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Oct 15, 2017 03:06
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- KiteAuraan
- Aug 5, 2014
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JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!
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Maybe the Hopi weren’t so bad in comparison with the Comanches, but fricking Adolph Hitler wasn’t so bad in comparison with the Comanches.
83 posted on 10/12/2017, 5:32:57 PM by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
How in the gently caress do you spin the Pueblo Revolt as a bad thing? Just a sampling of what the Spanish did.
In 1655 Friar Salvador de Guerra poured turpentine over Juan Cuna, a Hopi of Oraibi, and then lit him on fire, after beating him. Reports indicate he did this multiple times to other Hopi.
Hopi were forced to labor and build missions to house their conquerors.
The encomienda system was introduced, this was forced labor, on both women and men, divided by the gender roles the imperialist Spanish deemed "correct". It destroyed the Pueblo-Plains trade network and led directly to Apache raiding on Pueblos.
The same system forced Pueblo men, including Hopi into being enslaved in Spanish mines in Mexico and being used as porters on expeditions. Most men who left their villages died before returning.
Spanish tribute demands in cloth, hides, meat, produce and even ceramics led to famine and material scarcity for the very Pueblo people producing the goods.
These fucks worship the loving revolution against the British and the treason of the CSA, despite in both cases there being far, far, far, far less abuse. gently caress them. The Pueblo Revolt was a noble and justified one, far more than the American Revolution and the cessation by the South and equal to John Brown's revolt and other revolts against slavery.
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Oct 15, 2017 06:45
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- Georgia Peach
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SECESSION IS FUTILE
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How in the gently caress do you spin the Pueblo Revolt as a bad thing? Just a sampling of what the Spanish did.
In 1655 Friar Salvador de Guerra poured turpentine over Juan Cuna, a Hopi of Oraibi, and then lit him on fire, after beating him. Reports indicate he did this multiple times to other Hopi.
Hopi were forced to labor and build missions to house their conquerors.
The encomienda system was introduced, this was forced labor, on both women and men, divided by the gender roles the imperialist Spanish deemed "correct". It destroyed the Pueblo-Plains trade network and led directly to Apache raiding on Pueblos.
The same system forced Pueblo men, including Hopi into being enslaved in Spanish mines in Mexico and being used as porters on expeditions. Most men who left their villages died before returning.
Spanish tribute demands in cloth, hides, meat, produce and even ceramics led to famine and material scarcity for the very Pueblo people producing the goods.
These fucks worship the loving revolution against the British and the treason of the CSA, despite in both cases there being far, far, far, far less abuse. gently caress them. The Pueblo Revolt was a noble and justified one, far more than the American Revolution and the cessation by the South and equal to John Brown's revolt and other revolts against slavery.
Here's a commentary from Christopher Columbus XX that argues, "What about all the good stuff the Spanish did for the natives?"
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/10/09/christopher-columbus-xx-my-ancestor-wasnt-evil-column/744333001/
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Oct 15, 2017 06:50
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- Corsair Pool Boy
- Dec 17, 2004
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College Slice
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Was this taken down already? I'm getting a bad gateway error.
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Oct 15, 2017 07:37
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- Fathis Munk
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It's still up for me.
Also you know why freep doesn't like that revolution. The only good Revolution is my revolution.
E:
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These same people blame him for the deaths of Native Americans when the overwhelming majority of those deaths were due to disease, caused by their different degree of immunity compared with the Europeans.
Fathis Munk fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Oct 15, 2017
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Oct 15, 2017 07:48
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- Jagged Jim
- Sep 26, 2013
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I... I can only look though the window...
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Vegas Shooting Survivor Who Claimed Multiple Shooters Dies Suddenly
Man, even Matthew "CWII Cube" Bracken is getting tired of these conspiracy nutjobs...
quote:To: gaggs
BEWARE OF BOGUS “TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE” LAS VEGAS REPORTS FROM BOGUS “NEWS” SITES.
Many are worse than click-bait, they are launching pads for malware and virus attacks.
2 posted on 10/15/2017 6:40:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Lately FR seems to becoming a clearinghouse for every fringe conspiracy theory out there. I wish the admins would put a lid on this crap. It makes us all look like a bunch of tinfoil hat nut jobs.
4 posted on 10/15/2017 6:42:33 AM PDT by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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Is this sarcasm? I've spent so long on Freep I don't even know anymore.
quote:To: NRx
Completely agree with you. At a time when our country is under attack from Russian internet trolls on a huge number of fronts, it is literally unpatriotic to post this crazy conspiracy stuff without taking 5 minutes to debunk what is obviously a totally bogus story first. The headline alone is a troll creation.
7 posted on 10/15/2017 6:51:57 AM PDT by babble-on
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>>It makes us all look like a bunch of tinfoil hat nut jobs.
10 years ago, people on FR used to say that about the “fringe nutjobs” who believed that there was actually only one UniParty that was playing us all for fools and that a secret government made up of bureaucrats (now known as Deep State) was running it for shadowy masters.
14 posted on 10/15/2017 7:00:40 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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Wow, they even let someone post Snopes without immediately screaming "Fake News!" They really are sick of these conspiracy theories.
quote:To: gaggs
SNOPES
Suchomel, 28, who was not injured during [the] shooting, died early [October 9] at her Apple Valley home, according to her grandmother, Julie Norton, the co-founder of the High Desert Phoenix Foundation.
Norton found Suchomel just after 8:30 a.m. when she arrived to care for her 3-year-old great-granddaughter, Scarlett. She believes Suchomel may have died in her sleep after her husband, Mike, left for work at 4:30 a.m.
“Kymberley had epilepsy and she’s always been prone to seizures — she told her friend that she recently had three focal seizures,” Norton told the Daily Press. “I believe the stress from the shooting took her life.”
Suchomel, who was taking medication for a pituitary tumor, shared her fear of trying to fall sleep at night as the “sounds of gunfire” become louder in her head and the images of “broken and bloody bodies” flashed through her mind.
15 posted on 10/15/2017 7:00:56 AM PDT by LouisianaJoanof Arc (#I'mWithHim #MAGA)
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“Lately FR seems to becoming a clearinghouse for every fringe conspiracy theory out there. I wish the admins would put a lid on this crap. It makes us all look like a bunch of tinfoil hat nut jobs.”
I agree with you. It’s as if FR is sounding like DU.
31 posted on 10/15/2017 7:34:35 AM PDT by willk (everyone)
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Oct 16, 2017 00:05
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- evilmiera
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Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
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What is DU? Also, "recently".
That thread is way too self-aware.
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Oct 16, 2017 01:13
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- Mustached Demon
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What is DU? Also, "recently".
That thread is way too self-aware.
Democratic underground.
Take uspol and multiply it by 50.
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Oct 16, 2017 01:17
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- CharlestheHammer
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YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
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"Democratic Underground"? I think it's like a left wing freep?
Eh more like democrat freep.
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Oct 16, 2017 01:39
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- Adbot
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ADBOT LOVES YOU
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May 12, 2024 22:52
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- McGlockenshire
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GOLLOCKS!
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Is this sarcasm? I've spent so long on Freep I don't even know anymore.
Doesn't look like it. From a brief review of freeper babble-on's recent posts, we've stumbled upon the one freeper that actually understands and accepts Russia was and is loving around with our social media and news cycle. 2000 regdate.
quote:So you like the idea of Putin introducing political advertisements for and financing Antifa and Black Lives Matter? Cause that’s what he’s doing. Every time some anonymous troll says “Soros is financing this or that... “ look again, because often as not it’s Putin, not Soros.
His goal is to radicalize and thereby weaken or destroy our society. To tolerate this internet activity is to help Putin. Maybe that doesn’t bother you. It bothers me.
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Oct 16, 2017 02:00
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Oct 12, 2017 05:46
That's not even cognitive dissonance, that's having two independent brains at once.
