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So I wonder what the fallout is going to be if it is proved the PG&E was responsible for the current series of wild fires due to failure to comply with regulations about tree trimming near power lines? They've already been severely fined and sued for it in the past, and a lot more discussion in newspapers is pointing them out as a likely culprit http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/PG-E-power-lines-explored-as-possible-cause-of-12270749.php quote:Wildfires triggered by power lines have been an issue for PG&E before. The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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As if blowing up neighborhoods isn't bad enough, they also burn down cities. Monopolies really are the best.
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The Glumslinger posted:So I wonder what the fallout is going to be if it is proved the PG&E was responsible for the current series of wild fires due to failure to comply with regulations about tree trimming near power lines? They've already been severely fined and sued for it in the past, and a lot more discussion in newspapers is pointing them out as a likely culprit Judging by the last time they killed some people, a slap on the wrist.
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yep pretty much, if they can blow up an entire neighborhood and get a paltry $90 million fine, then welp. also doesnt help they basically bought and own PUC which is spineless and more powerless than my lasts night burrito poo poo from getting flushed down the toilet. weird goood thing is have several friends who work at pg&e's san ramon office and they basically do nothing but collect their six figures and go on vacation a lot. so i guess they pay their workers well at least
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Utilities should really not be privatized. The most hassle free (and affordable) electric company I ever had to deal with was the City of Santa Clara. PG&E and SDG&E are shady and poo poo companies that get away with loving over their customers because it's not like you can take your business elsewhere. Plus, having shareholders to answer to leads to cutting corners and explosions and fire.
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But seriously how many times does California have to get bent over the table and hosed by energy companies before we just nationalize this poo poo?
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Sydin posted:But seriously how many times does California have to get bent over the table and hosed by energy companies before we just nationalize this poo poo? Short of a revolution and the collapse of American capitalism, it's never going to happen. Too many people are brainwashed that government is useless and wasteful and only a private for-profit company can responsibly serve the people. Schools, hospitals, and prisons are all for profit - why shouldn't electricity be?
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I'm in Anaheim and we have publicly owned utilities, it's great. 10/10 would advocate for public utility ownership again.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Short of a revolution and the collapse of American capitalism, it's never going to happen. Too many people are brainwashed that government is useless and wasteful and only a private for-profit company can responsibly serve the people. Schools, hospitals, and prisons are all for profit - why shouldn't electricity be? Defeatist bullshit, join the DSA and help us do something about it.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Defeatist bullshit, join the DSA and help us do something about it. Oh, I'm plenty active politically. Just because I've lost hope doesn't mean I've stopped trying. EDIT: I should also note that I currently live in an extremely "red" part of California, so I'm especially jaded.
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I would say that it will be interesting to see how the crowd saying things like Oroville Dam should be handed over to a private company to run will reconcile that with PG&E burning down a few towns, but I know they will blame it on having too many regulations for poor overworked PG&E to keep up with.
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Its staggering how little the defacto electrical power company monopolies get talked about in this country.
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when will silicon valley finally disrupt the energy industry?
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FCKGW posted:when will silicon valley finally disrupt the energy industry? Peter Thiel would have you know that monopolies are good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6K8PZxyQfU Well, I mean, if you are the monopoly. Longpig Bard fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Oh, I'm plenty active politically. Just because I've lost hope doesn't mean I've stopped trying. Apologies, comrade. Just consider what I said as directed at anyone who isn't active, and give yourself some credit. 
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cheese posted:Its staggering how little the defacto electrical power company monopolies get talked about in this country. They’re often de jure!
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Xaris posted:weird goood thing is have several friends who work at pg&e's san ramon office and they basically do nothing but collect their six figures and go on vacation a lot. so i guess they pay their workers well at least
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My home of 10 years has burned down. Thank hod for insurrance honestly. Im pretty excited about moving to the tip of Idaho.
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Sorry to hear that, dude.
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LeoMarr posted:My home of 10 years has burned down. Thank hod for insurrance honestly. Im pretty excited about moving to the tip of Idaho. I grew up in the tip of Idaho ama
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Mordiceius posted:Idaho udaho?
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Mordiceius posted:I grew up in the tip of Idaho ama What are there more of: Mormons or white supremacists
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Grand Prize Winner posted:What are there more of: Mormons or white supremacists Can't it be both? Northern Idaho? White supremacists. Southern Idaho? Mormons. Barely more.
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i was unpleasantly exclusionary to the mormon white supremacists apologies all round!
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Grand Prize Winner posted:i was unpleasantly exclusionary to the mormon white supremacists Whoah now they repudiated that doctrine decades ago and the entire congregation has purged all hints of racism from their minds.
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Fun fact: this quote is still used in one of the current LDS Church manuals (specifically for teaching young men).Aaronic Priesthood Manual posted:“We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally, and of somewhat the same economic and social and educational background (some of those are not an absolute necessity, but preferred), and above all, the same religious background, without question” I still remember being very surprised to hear this when I was a teenager in class a decade and a half ago (I'm biracial so it was particularly awkward for me), and I'm positively shocked it's still in there today. Cicero fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Oct 13, 2017 |
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Grand Prize Winner posted:i was unpleasantly exclusionary to the mormon white supremacists In my experience i'ts more of a subset thing.
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Why move to Idaho? You can just move to Yolo County and get just as many white supremacists and tweakers snorting meth off the hood of their cars.
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Panfilo posted:Why move to Idaho? You can just move to Yolo County and get just as many white supremacists and tweakers snorting meth off the hood of their cars. Why move to Yolo County when they're practically all over this state? There's a reason I no longer take the back roads in my home town. 
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My brother used to rent a place in Yolo county and tweakers there were like raccoons in that they'd only come out at night, rummage through the trash and communicate in a chittering, squeaking manner. You could be going down a country road with no domicile in thirty miles in either direction and have to swerve to avoid some bug eyed Skeletor of a man with a shaved head and no pants playing hopscotch in the middle of the road in total darkness 
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Riverside Public Utilities handles my water, sewer, and electric, and do a good job of it.
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These fires did make me realize how much worse poo poo would be if we didn't have a strong centralized governmental response to firefighting. poo poo would be a lot worse without Cal Fire coordinating and mobilizing statewide resources.
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Trabisnikof posted:These fires did make me realize how much worse poo poo would be if we didn't have a strong centralized governmental response to firefighting. poo poo would be a lot worse without Cal Fire coordinating and mobilizing statewide resources. Massive amounts of https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/31/magazine/the-incarcerated-women-who-fight-californias-wildfires.html
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Panfilo posted:My brother used to rent a place in Yolo county and tweakers there were like raccoons in that they'd only come out at night, rummage through the trash and communicate in a chittering, squeaking manner. You could be going down a country road with no domicile in thirty miles in either direction and have to swerve to avoid some bug eyed Skeletor of a man with a shaved head and no pants playing hopscotch in the middle of the road in total darkness This is simply sad. Drug addicts need help not scorn.
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Agreed. Let's start with universal healthcare so they aren't bankrupted by medical costs and can see psychologists and go to rehab for free.
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LeoMarr posted:My home of 10 years has burned down. Thank hod for insurrance honestly. Im pretty excited about moving to the tip of Idaho.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Riverside Public Utilities handles my water, sewer, and electric, and do a good job of it. Yup. I don't think I've ever really had to complain.
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Cicero posted:Are there any progressives that are already talking about running? First serious challenger to Feinstein just announced he’s running California Senate leader Kevin de León telling people he will challenge Sen. Dianne Feinstein
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