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Doing Alexander Raid for the first time. How do the goofy goblins have a better boss theme than most of the enemies in this game?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cKy5Qk0QMM
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Trainmonk posted:This is the one game I've ever played where I'm completely satisfied with my created character, a highlady. I'd make an alt character before changing her to another race.  my duskie is perfect and cool and good thank you very much.Also the concept Au Ra were cooler than the ones we got but they're fine like they are too. I just kinda wish the girls were 6 inches taller or so to match midlander women and catgirls.
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Oct 13, 2017 21:41
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gently caress godbert mandeville
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Oct 13, 2017 21:42
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shas posted:gently caress godbert mandeville Hell, This.
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Oct 13, 2017 21:43
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had a heartbreaker of an enrage yesterday when the left wing finished casting with 2% on it. fight's good.
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Oct 13, 2017 21:45
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shas posted:gently caress godbert mandeville What's wrong with Godbert?
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Oct 13, 2017 21:53
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Nothing. He's a big beautiful man. Maybe they are trying to spoil the 4.1 part, dunno
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Oct 13, 2017 21:56
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Diabetic posted:I'd be down for them to add the Bangaa and the Viera. The original makers of FF14 were mostly being lazy in that they copied the same races over to the game just with different name. I'm surprised we even got Miquote males in the first place. Weren't they a 2.0 addition? Them and female roes?
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Oct 13, 2017 21:59
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:What's wrong with Godbert? 
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hihifellow posted:Weren't they a 2.0 addition? Them and female roes? Yeah catboys and femroes came together although the best femroe has been around since 1.0.
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Oct 13, 2017 22:02
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They want to make love to him and give Hildy some brothers to discover accidentally during an investigation. Some people seem to think Godbert went Full Libertarian rear end in a top hat during 4.1 but I don't think that's quite a fair take on what he said.
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Oct 13, 2017 22:02
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Size difference aside, I never liked the Au Ra horn-ear thing. That's just really weird looking.
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Oct 13, 2017 22:04
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Thundarr posted:They want to make love to him and give Hildy some brothers to discover accidentally during an investigation. The idea is pretty clearly Godbert going "Hey, you can give these people money, but until you rebuild their infrustructure and make them self-sufficient they won't actually recover." Which is a direct comparison to things he did in other plotlines and him being one of the people willing to go out of his way to hire and support refugees. The 'they will grow dependent' thing isn't 'they are lazy slackers' but that without a self-sufficient Ala Mhigo they will end up unable to support themselves. Which is the reason the entire plot is "how can Ala Mhigo start recovering for themselves?" It may have been phrased poorly but it is trying to argue in favor of Ala Mhigo independence economically and socially, not 'lol, charity sucks and makes parasites.'
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Oct 13, 2017 22:07
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Thundarr posted:They want to make love to him and give Hildy some brothers to discover accidentally during an investigation. The "you can't spoil people with handouts" part was a bit much but the "uldans will resent having their taxes spent to help foreigners" part was absolutely grounded
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Oct 13, 2017 22:09
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ImpAtom posted:The idea is pretty clearly Godbert going "Hey, you can give these people money, but until you rebuild their infrustructure and make them self-sufficient they won't actually recover." Which is a direct comparison to things he did in other plotlines and him being one of the people willing to go out of his way to hire and support refugees. The 'they will grow dependent' thing isn't 'they are lazy slackers' but that without a self-sufficient Ala Mhigo they will end up unable to support themselves. Which is the reason the entire plot is "how can Ala Mhigo start recovering for themselves?" It may have been phrased poorly but it is trying to argue in favor of Ala Mhigo independence economically and socially, not 'lol, charity sucks and makes parasites.' Of course then (4.1) you go work out a contract with lolorito to rebuild It’s a good reminder of what Ul’dah was supposed to be
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hobbesmaster posted:Of course then you go work out a contract with lolorito to rebuild Yeah, I don't have much to say about that except that I fully expect it to backfire horribly.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, I don't have much to say about that except that I fully expect it to backfire horribly. Well the last time someone tried to gently caress us over in that situation they ended up cleaved in two, so... really wouldn't mind it happening to Lolorito
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Axle_Stukov posted:Well the last time someone tried to gently caress us over in that situation they ended up cleaved in two, so... really wouldn't mind it happening to Lolorito I think Lolorito's savvy enough to realise he's hosed you around enough at this point.
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Oct 13, 2017 22:20
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:I think Lolorito's savvy enough to realise he's hosed you around enough at this point. and he now has an entire new country to grift now
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Oct 13, 2017 22:22
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, I don't have much to say about that except that I fully expect it to backfire horribly. Quite possibly, but we've tread that ground already and it seems the point of the subplot is that the characters are gaining some maturity. In theory, with genuinely benevolent leaders like Nanamo and Lyse overseeing the deal and being aware of where they stand with Lolorito, it should be possible to keep it mutually beneficial rather than lean towards exploitive. It's a fantasy world, after all.
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Oct 13, 2017 22:23
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It could just be a janky translation because the ultimate scope of Godbert's advice, and what Nanamo ends up doing, is pretty sound.
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Axle_Stukov posted:Well the last time someone tried to gently caress us over in that situation they ended up cleaved in two, so... really wouldn't mind it happening to Lolorito Also to paraphrase an earlier quote in this thread, making one merchant two half merchants didn't really solve our problems.
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ImpAtom posted:The idea is pretty clearly Godbert going "Hey, you can give these people money, but until you rebuild their infrustructure and make them self-sufficient they won't actually recover." Which is a direct comparison to things he did in other plotlines and him being one of the people willing to go out of his way to hire and support refugees. The 'they will grow dependent' thing isn't 'they are lazy slackers' but that without a self-sufficient Ala Mhigo they will end up unable to support themselves. Which is the reason the entire plot is "how can Ala Mhigo start recovering for themselves?" It may have been phrased poorly but it is trying to argue in favor of Ala Mhigo independence economically and socially, not 'lol, charity sucks and makes parasites.' It's literally Nation Building 101 poo poo people are getting angry about 
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Bolow posted:It's literally Nation Building 101 poo poo people are getting angry about Lolorito is probably going to make Halliburton in Iraq look good
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Oct 13, 2017 22:29
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hobbesmaster posted:Lolorito is probably going to make Halliburton in Iraq look good Well he does have a personal vested interest in the Saltery being well run since he seemed to legitimately miss it when Garlemald was in charge
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Thundarr posted:Quite possibly, but we've tread that ground already and it seems the point of the subplot is that the characters are gaining some maturity. This. Also, shame on anyone who doesn't talk to the other NPCs before talking to the one with the thing above their head, because Alphinaud expressly suggests that the Ala Mhigans themselves also front a equivalent share from the Mad King's trove in order to limit their liabilities to East Aldenard.
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Bolow posted:Well he does have a personal vested interest in the Saltery being well run since he seemed to legitimately miss it when Garlemald was in charge That's face-talk for 'I remember that and how famous it was' since the saltery has come up several times before. Thundarr posted:Quite possibly, but we've tread that ground already and it seems the point of the subplot is that the characters are gaining some maturity. One in particular. Getting Juliet'd really helps someone gain some perspective 
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My understanding of Lolorito is that he's an absolutely ruthless rear end in a top hat of a businessman, but he's not a monster. Pretty much everything he does is done to ensure he's the richest man in the room, no more, no less. As shamelessly underhanded as his actions from 2.5 to 4.0 were, it ends up saving Nanamo's life, and was planned to save the Scions too (except they ran away before he could get them pardoned), and he wasn't wrong in the side stories when he said Nanamo hiding her intent to abolish the Sultanate was a boneheaded move that caused most of that incident. He gains nothing and loses nearly everything from a destabilized Ul'dah, after all. As for Ala Mhigo, to Lolorito it's a long-term investment and he loses nothing in the venture, so he has no reason to say no or alter the deal (at least not yet). As for the whole Godbert thing, to me it was less of a "mutually beneficial or gently caress off" speech, but more that Nanamo needs to think about the long-term consequences of her actions for both her own nation and the nation she wants to help, not just one or the other. The whole assassination plot in 2.5 was kicked off because she didn't do this, and Godbert is trying to push her in a direction where she can get what she wants without history repeating itself.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:This. Also, shame on anyone who doesn't talk to the other NPCs before talking to the one with the thing above their head, because Alphinaud expressly suggests that the Ala Mhigans themselves also front a equivalent share from the Mad King's trove in order to limit their liabilities to East Aldenard. I think you get that as part of the quest dialog, because I remember him saying that and I only click on quest markers.
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Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Then provide the man a set of fishing gear and a boat under promise he'll give you 5% of all fish caught and you have yourselves a mutually beneficial investment.
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Gruckles posted:Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Then provide the man a set of fishing gear and a boat under promise he'll give you 5% of all fish caught and you have yourselves a mutually beneficial investment. I've only been getting paid in experience..,
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More like the intern of light.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:This. Also, shame on anyone who doesn't talk to the other NPCs before talking to the one with the thing above their head, because Alphinaud expressly suggests that the Ala Mhigans themselves also front a equivalent share from the Mad King's trove in order to limit their liabilities to East Aldenard. All that money is totally going to end up in lolorito’s hands because he’s infinitely better at trade deals.
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Oct 13, 2017 23:07
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The deal didn't say anything about swimsuits I get from desynthesis.
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Gruckles posted:Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. Then provide the man a set of fishing gear and a boat under promise he'll give you 5% of all fish caught and you have yourselves a mutually beneficial investment. Plus expenses that add up to ~90% of earnings
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ImpAtom posted:The idea is pretty clearly Godbert going "Hey, you can give these people money, but until you rebuild their infrustructure and make them self-sufficient they won't actually recover." Which is a direct comparison to things he did in other plotlines and him being one of the people willing to go out of his way to hire and support refugees. The 'they will grow dependent' thing isn't 'they are lazy slackers' but that without a self-sufficient Ala Mhigo they will end up unable to support themselves. Which is the reason the entire plot is "how can Ala Mhigo start recovering for themselves?" It may have been phrased poorly but it is trying to argue in favor of Ala Mhigo independence economically and socially, not 'lol, charity sucks and makes parasites.' Yeah, it's pretty clear what Godbert is trying to say.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I think you get that as part of the quest dialog, because I remember him saying that and I only click on quest markers. Hm, could be, I won't argue strongly that it wasn't. But shame on you anyways! =P
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the real issue is that all of those conversations ignore the reality of people's current suffering. no successful plan for economic revival ignores the immediate need for charity and social programs - people who are sick, malnourished, demoralized, and lack any purchasing power need immediate, direct aid in addition to larger structural reform. godbert (or anyone else in those chats except the guy who is portrayed as well-meaning but ignorant to the realities economics and politics) never makes any mention of this and instead gives some old adage about teaching thousands and thousands of people to fish. the best thing you could say is that it's a bad translation.
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