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MourningView posted:I don't have a ton of faith in the hire but it's way too early to judge Lovie. The cupboard was completley bare and last year was basically a throwaway. He got hired late in the process and didn't have any time to recruit, so the freshman class was whatever a lame duck Cubit managed to cobble together after the Beckman disaster. This is his first actual class and they've started 13 true freshman already, including 4 on the offensive line and I think 3 on the DL I can judge Lovie -- he's done. Looked washed up in his last years with the Bears, looked washed up with the Bucs, looks washed up now. There's a reason he was available when Illinois had to "settle" for someone, because no NFL team was giving him a look again. He's not a long-term solution, certainly not a short-term solution, and nothing will come of his tenure other than Illinois having to start over yet again when he's gone in 1-2 years. It was a horrible hire from the start and I can't believe people are still trying to justify it.
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Benne posted:I can judge Lovie -- he's done. Looked washed up in his last years with the Bears, looked washed up with the Bucs, looks washed up now. There's a reason he was available when Illinois had to "settle" for someone, because no NFL team was giving him a look again. He's not a long-term solution, certainly not a short-term solution, and nothing will come of his tenure other than Illinois having to start over yet again when he's gone in 1-2 years. I literally said i didn't like the hire in the post you are quoting, you dork. That doesn't change that he walked into about as bad a situation as any coach could walk into. Trying to fire him in year 2 doesn't really solve anything. If he still sucks in a year or two when he's actually had more than one real recruiting class then sure. It's not like they're losing that much, they were already basically at rock bottom.
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Blue Raider posted:jim bob cooter imo His name alone would be a fantastic asset for recruiting.
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what the gently caress is happening at Maryland  quote:AD Kevin Anderson has been placed on administrative leave through August 2018, as first reported by Bobby Blanco of MASN. Maryland insists Anderson is still on staff as AD. Anderson has reportedly been on leave since Oct. 1 as Maryland president Wallace Loh is upset Anderson pursued the open AD job at Cal. Update: A Maryland spokesman told ESPN’s Adam Rittenberg that Anderson is not on leave and will not be fired although “there could be an update on the situation later this week.”
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I woke up to like 40 new posts in this thread and got excited. gently caress you guys
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Maybe big time college athletics is different, but it seems weird to suspend or fire someone for applying to a different job.
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So here's a thing from the Omaha World Herald. Obviously Riley's fate depends on this hire, unless the university president wants to fire him now and let Bob Diaco take over going into a bye week, gently caress if I know anymore.quote:LINCOLN — Look for Nebraska to introduce a new athletic director this week.
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I don't know if I'd like a Scott Frost hire. But this is likely to be the only year he's gonna be easy to pry away (I am sure he's not gonna be at UCF for long), so gently caress it. Not sure there's a better candidate out there--Joe Moorhead, maybe? I'd say Ken Niumatalolo should get a look but there's no way they hire a dude that runs the flexbone in 2017, no matter how good an idea it might be.
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LLCoolJD posted:Whoever Nebraska gets had better be a top-tier recruiter. Disagree. It'd be nice but it shouldn't be the top priority. There's gonna be a cap to how well they can recruit there regardless of who it is unless it's, like, Urban Meyer or something. They're far from any of the really talent rich states and no one in high school now remembers them as a super power. They need someone who is either really good/different tactically or someone in the Ferentz/Alvarez mold who can develop/scout like a motherfucker to get the most of the underrecruited talent in the area
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LLCoolJD posted:Whoever Nebraska gets had better be a top-tier recruiter. Nebraska isn't going to consistently pull in top 15 recruiting classes regardless of who's there; they're going to need to develop a unique offensive identity to try to mitigate the talent gap between them and the Ohio State's of the world.
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MourningView posted:Disagree. It'd be nice but it shouldn't be the top priority. There's gonna be a cap to how well they can recruit there regardless of who it is unless it's, like, Urban Meyer or something. They're far from any of the really talent rich states and no one in high school now remembers them as a super power. They need someone who is either really good/different tactically or someone in the Ferentz/Alvarez mold who can develop/scout like a motherfucker to get the most of the underrecruited talent in the area Dingdingding. (although Callahan did reel in a top 5 class in 2005  )
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And here it is https://twitter.com/huskerextra/status/919632888341114881 Had been at Wazzu since 2010; was at Oregon from 1995 to 2007. Anyone want to tell me how I should think about this E: From Wiki quote:Moos left Oregon in 2007 after a dispute with Nike founder Phil Knight, who was a big donor to the Oregon Athletics program.[2] He had signed an agreement which pays him $200,000 a year for not taking an administrative position at a BCS conference university west of the Mississippi River. During his hiatus between 2007 and 2010, Moos took to raising beef at his Valleyford, Washington ranch. The exact reasons for his resignation are unknown, but the dispute with Knight regarding funding for an arena to replace the aging McArthur Court "strained a bit toward the end." After Moos resigned, Knight donated $100 million towards the building of a new arena for Oregon. Real Name Grover fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Oct 15, 2017 |
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Real Name Grover posted:And here it is Snap judgement is a guy named Moos will know the farming community well
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Real Name Grover posted:And here it is
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Real Name Grover posted:Dingdingding. (although Callahan did reel in a top 5 class in 2005 They were only 4 years removed from being in the title game then! Also Kirk goddamn Ferentz had a top ten class that year, 2005 was loving weird
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DJExile posted:Moos is a solid AD. That's a good hire for Nebraska It is. However, anyone thinking that Moos is going to be a gateway for Mike Leach coming to Nebraska needs to think otherwise. I don't believe that Leach is going to want to put up with the political bullshit that would come with coaching a program like Nebraska, plus he's got the run of the place up at Wazzu. Whoever Wazzu hires to replace Moos is going to do so with the understanding that Leach isn't going anywhere unless he really wants to and I don't think that Leach does, and unless he's gonna lock any more of Craig James' kids in closets you can't fire him.
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DJExile posted:Yeah Leach and Nebraska would be a hilariously bad fit You say that until you look out over the horizon in Nebraska and see black masts in the sky, despite no water being anywhere near by.
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MourningView posted:Disagree. It'd be nice but it shouldn't be the top priority. There's gonna be a cap to how well they can recruit there regardless of who it is unless it's, like, Urban Meyer or something. They're far from any of the really talent rich states and no one in high school now remembers them as a super power. They need someone who is either really good/different tactically or someone in the Ferentz/Alvarez mold who can develop/scout like a motherfucker to get the most of the underrecruited talent in the area so chip kelly to nebraska confirmed wishbone spread hybrid is coming
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MourningView posted:Disagree. It'd be nice but it shouldn't be the top priority. There's gonna be a cap to how well they can recruit there regardless of who it is unless it's, like, Urban Meyer or something. They're far from any of the really talent rich states and no one in high school now remembers them as a super power. They need someone who is either really good/different tactically or someone in the Ferentz/Alvarez mold who can develop/scout like a motherfucker to get the most of the underrecruited talent in the area Iowa has a good, stable program, but I thought that Nebraska fancied itself as a blueblood. If they were okay with endless 8- or 9-win seasons they'd have kept Solich and, later, Pelini. I figure they need someone who can fly away from the cornfields and poach some 4-star recruits. I'm not saying they will achieve this.
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LLCoolJD posted:Iowa has a good, stable program, but I thought that Nebraska fancied itself as a blueblood. If they were okay with endless 8- or 9-win seasons they'd have kept Solich and, later, Pelini. I figure they need someone who can fly away from the cornfields and poach some 4-star recruits. I'm not saying they will achieve this. Nebraska will probably never return to its former prominence, but I suspect most Nebraskans--at least from my experience--have made their peace with that. 9-10 win seasons with a breakthrough now and again would be fine.
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LLCoolJD posted:Iowa has a good, stable program, but I thought that Nebraska fancied itself as a blueblood. If they were okay with endless 8- or 9-win seasons they'd have kept Solich and, later, Pelini. I figure they need someone who can fly away from the cornfields and poach some 4-star recruits. I'm not saying they will achieve this. I mean they can fancy themselves whatever they want but Iowa's finished the season in the Top 10 5 times since the last time Nebraska did it. At some point they should probably accept that they aren't going to be OSU. Bo didn't solely get fired for his record, it was as much him being an rear end in a top hat and huge embarrassment to the program off the field as much as anything. And if you've kept up with him recently it was probably a good call (not that looking the other way toward violence against women would be out of character for Nebraska's football history)
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DJExile posted:what the gently caress is happening at Maryland Anderson routinely ignores donors and alumni, doesn't bother to attend even bowl games/tournament games most of the time (insert Maryland bowl games joke here), works like a 20 hour week and makes the deputy AD do 75% of the work, and rumor has it is drunk most of the time when he actually does do anything. But because this is Maryland and they're allergic to doing anything right, they don't bother firing him but instead put him on some form of paid leave for a year. Disclaimer: I am a Maryland basketball fan, not an alumni, this is just all stuff I've heard from other people.
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In general, I think most Nebraska fans' expectations are to play in the Big Ten Championship game on a regular basis, make a New Year's Six bowl once every few years, and almost never drop out of the top 25. The nature of the losses is important too, Nebraska fans will tolerate losing by a field goal but the blowouts have got to stop.
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Simplex posted:He's playing a bunch of young players who are all presumably "his" guys. But, I wonder a lot of time in those situations if those guys are playing because they actually are better, or if they are just playing because they are his guys. There are cases like Rutgers where 90% of the players the old regime recruited are garbage. But it doesn't seem like he's recruiting that well? Like I would bet millions of dollars on Lovie failing at Illinois, beyond just that most people do. DJExile posted:what the gently caress is happening at Maryland They've been a complete dumpster fire for years. Their AD is deep in debt because of spending on basketball facilities after they won the national title 15 years ago. Their football program has been bad for decade since Fridge left, and even then it wasn't that good late in his tenure. Kim Jong Il fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Oct 15, 2017 |
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