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Rainuwastaken posted:Syrcus needs a lower item sync badly. No, not really.
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ActionZero posted:I want you all to imagine being a Bard when Straighter Shot procs, you hit Barrage and go to fire off Refulgent Arrow and then the boss goes away. Straighter Shot never procs for me until after I use Barrage 
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Mordiceius posted:Squadron Stone Vigil is kind of nuts. 400k xp every 8 minutes. Took me from 42 to 49 in about an hour.  Guess I'll uh..put piercing debuff on this guy and then go stand in a corner or something.
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OneDeadman posted:My personal bane of existence as a BLM is hard casting flare and watching as my target dies right before I finish casting flare. It should at least set the corpses on fire.
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Oct 21, 2017 00:00
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Oct 21, 2017 00:09
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We (6 PCD members and two randos) got to the bottom of the hidden canals on our first try!
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Oct 21, 2017 00:09
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SonicRulez posted:Is there any worse feeling than trying to figure out when to Ten Chi Jin on a new boss and getting it wrong every single time? Party healer dies when the boss has ~8% health left, but you hit LB2 and fire it off as a melee. Right as the boss throws an AOE under you, that explodes and kills you right before the limit break actually fires off. Also, while it didn't do any damage, it did eat the limit break meter so the other DPS can't fire one off to save the day. gently caress you charibert
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drat it. I got the ghost candelabra and the pumpkin tower but now I'm thinking I need like four of each now and getting an apartment was a bad idea...
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SonicRulez posted:Is there any worse feeling than trying to figure out when to Ten Chi Jin on a new boss and getting it wrong every single time? That ability just feels bad to use regardless
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When you press Trick Attack the very instant the boss spins around to blow up somebody that isn't the tank. And then it *keeps happening*.Fister Roboto posted:No, not really. Poor Glasya hasn't had a chance to do his signature mechanic in three years, and Scylla in almost as long.
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:We (6 PCD members and two randos) got to the bottom of the hidden canals on our first try! I hate you.  I was talking to one dude that had been to the bottom 3 times in the first week. Meanwhile, I've been there 10 time now and never past room 4.
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SirPhoebos posted:very pleased that Rabanaste concludes with dunking on Argas rude
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Thundarr posted:When you press Trick Attack the very instant the boss spins around to blow up somebody that isn't the tank. And then it *keeps happening*. I honestly can't remember the last time I've used Trick Attack as a Ninja because that happens so often.
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slev posted:That ability just feels bad to use regardless It made me stop playing ninja
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Oct 21, 2017 02:33
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Why is it so hard to find Party Finder parties for Heavensward's EX fights that don't disband? I finally learned Nidhogg, but everyone disbands due to the newbies that join. And I still haven't done Sephirot or Sophia, because those are always put up as Duty Complete. I found a practice party for Sephirot today and they disbanded after the first wipe.
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Man, whose bright idea was it to require fishing retainers to have just as much Gathering as miner/botanist need to get rare stuff from quick ventures. I would pretty much have to outfit my fisher entirely with yellow scrip gear to get it that high while the others are in mostly NQ crafted gear with a few melds. The magic number appears to be somewhere between 930 and 940 Gathering, by the way. On his first trip out, my botanist stole somebody's mogwall.
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Solo Wing Pixy posted:Party healer dies when the boss has ~8% health left, but you hit LB2 and fire it off as a melee. All of the things said are bad, but this made me shed a full tear. Charibert is the worst. Thundarr posted:When you press Trick Attack the very instant the boss spins around to blow up somebody that isn't the tank. And then it *keeps happening*. Yeah I just started popping the thing that ignores directionals before 90% of Trick Attacks now. Especially in stuff like 24 mans where the 3 tanks might decide to circlejerk for the entire fight.
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It's when things start being fun instead of fall-asleep boring. It's not actually significantly worse than other HW or SB dungeons, it's just such a sharp contrast to the soggy slogs that are ARR dungeons.
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SonicRulez posted:All of the things said are bad, but this made me shed a full tear. Charibert is the worst. DRK quest spoiler: Zephirin is the actual worst and finally getting to beat the ever-loving poo poo out of him in the 70 DRK quest was honest-to-god cathartic.
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SonicRulez posted:Is there any worse feeling than trying to figure out when to Ten Chi Jin on a new boss and getting it wrong every single time? I get frustrated when something dies before I can Verflare or Verholy and there's nothing else to use it on.
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This was a whole lot less painful to do than the Zodiac weapon, but Umbrites can gently caress right off with that 119/120 bullshit. Think I prefer the Longinus Zeta over it still but I'm expecting to mulch this thing for the next relic anyway
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Bolow posted:I'm expecting to mulch this thing for the next relic anyway I have some bad news for you.
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Bolow posted:I'm expecting to mulch this thing for the next relic anyway
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Fister Roboto posted:I have some bad news for you. Oh well the questline was actually kind of interesting at least
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Bolow posted:This was a whole lot less painful to do than the Zodiac weapon, but Umbrites can gently caress right off with that 119/120 bullshit. Think I prefer the Longinus Zeta over it still but I'm expecting to mulch this thing for the next relic anyway no mulching completed anima weapons to skip the first step of the next relic. they said the formula for relic weapons is changing significantly, that's why it was delayed.
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Reiterpallasch posted:literally everything about judgement bolt in shinryu's first phase That fight is a real "gently caress you" to healers. There's never really a pause in the slurry of AoE damage.
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SonicRulez posted:Is there any worse feeling than trying to figure out when to Ten Chi Jin on a new boss and getting it wrong every single time? Dunno about tienshinhan or whatever but using LOTD right before the boss jumps loving blows and it blew even worse before the patch
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Okay, gently caress it, I give up. I have no idea how the gently caress crafting works in this game. It is such obtuse, newbie-unfriendly bullshit. Is there any tutorial anywhere for complete idiots about how to do anything besides brute forcing a recipe by being thirty levels over it? And I don't just mean a crafting macro, since that doesn't do anything to teach me how you're supposed to make any progress in this system before running out of everything. I just want to do some turnins to M'naago. 
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Asimo posted:Okay, gently caress it, I give up. I have no idea how the gently caress crafting works in this game. It is such obtuse, newbie-unfriendly bullshit. Is there any tutorial anywhere for complete idiots about how to do anything besides brute forcing a recipe by being thirty levels over it? And I don't just mean a crafting macro, since that doesn't do anything to teach me how you're supposed to make any progress in this system before running out of everything. I just want to do some turnins to M'naago. i assume everyone just uses macros
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Asimo posted:Okay, gently caress it, I give up. I have no idea how the gently caress crafting works in this game. It is such obtuse, newbie-unfriendly bullshit. Is there any tutorial anywhere for complete idiots about how to do anything besides brute forcing a recipe by being thirty levels over it? And I don't just mean a crafting macro, since that doesn't do anything to teach me how you're supposed to make any progress in this system before running out of everything. I just want to do some turnins to M'naago. Use your quality abilities to increase quality and your progress abilities to increase progress. It's really not that complicated. What are you having trouble with?
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Asimo posted:Apparently there won't be a trade-in this time, for better or worse. I still want to get it before starting the new one, see if the text mentions it. Also in case there's a kettle. Speaking of, anyone for A9S farming tomorrow?
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Sade posted:no mulching completed anima weapons to skip the first step of the next relic. they said the formula for relic weapons is changing significantly, that's why it was delayed. My deep hope is simply that the new system isn't an unforgiving slog like the UnID stuff or the books or Umbrite. All of those sucked even after being nerfed. The best steps are the ones that just ask you to log in and do roulettes and you'll still get there at a decent pace, but you can also go full poopsock if you want to be there NOW.
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Obligatum VII posted:That fight is a real "gently caress you" to healers. There's never really a pause in the slurry of AoE damage. I recently discovered that the Reiryu adds' tethers do more than decide "oh this guy died, I'm going to attack immediately", they actually block healing on the tethered player. The tethers will default to the DPS, but if any of them is dead, any spares will go on random players. Bad things happen if they tether a tank.
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Fister Roboto posted:Use your quality abilities to increase quality and your progress abilities to increase progress. It's really not that complicated. What are you having trouble with? SonicRulez posted:My deep hope is simply that the new system isn't an unforgiving slog like the UnID stuff or the books or Umbrite. All of those sucked even after being nerfed. The best steps are the ones that just ask you to log in and do roulettes and you'll still get there at a decent pace, but you can also go full poopsock if you want to be there NOW. 
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Asimo posted:Okay, gently caress it, I give up. I have no idea how the gently caress crafting works in this game. It is such obtuse, newbie-unfriendly bullshit. Is there any tutorial anywhere for complete idiots about how to do anything besides brute forcing a recipe by being thirty levels over it? And I don't just mean a crafting macro, since that doesn't do anything to teach me how you're supposed to make any progress in this system before running out of everything. I just want to do some turnins to M'naago. Play around with the simulator: http://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net. jalapeno_dude fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Oct 21, 2017 |
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Asimo posted:Running out of durability, CP, or both before finishing the process or getting the requisite collectability. I mean I know gear's likely a factor, I'm working from 60 here with adept's poo poo and whatever vendor crap I could find, but I had similar trouble with the harder/starred Zhloe turnins during heavensward too. But even if it is gear I'm not sure where to go from there since I sure can't craft anything better. CP is by far the most important stat for crafting, the other two will only give you marginal returns after the minimum required stats. Stack as much of it as you can and use abilities that restore it (tricks of the trade and comfort zone). From there it's just a matter of using the most efficient abilities for increasing quality, restoring durability, and increasing progress. At level 60 that's mainly going to be hasty touch for quality, master's mend II for durability, and rapid synthesis or careful synthesis II for progress. If you want you can post your stats and what you're trying to make, and I can come up with a method to use and explain the thought process behind it.
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jalapeno_dude posted:Play around with the simulator: ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net. Fister Roboto posted:If you want you can post your stats and what you're trying to make, and I can come up with a method to use and explain the thought process behind it.
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Asimo posted:Oh! Thanks. I recommend putting in a rotation you're using/think is the best you can do, then having the simulator start with that. If/when it comes up with something better than that take a look and try to understand why it's better, then see if you can generalize from there. IMO you get better intuition that way than just having the simulator start from scratch.
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Asimo posted:Okay, gently caress it, I give up. I have no idea how the gently caress crafting works in this game. It is such obtuse, newbie-unfriendly bullshit. Is there any tutorial anywhere for complete idiots about how to do anything besides brute forcing a recipe by being thirty levels over it? And I don't just mean a crafting macro, since that doesn't do anything to teach me how you're supposed to make any progress in this system before running out of everything. I just want to do some turnins to M'naago. If you're asking about how you should determine what abilities you should use, that's a harder question. For instance, as a general principle durability restoration abilities that use more CP tend to be more efficient than those that use less CP, but are less versatile as a result. With few exceptions, the system shies away from having abilities that are flat out better than others. For instance, Masters Mend I (92CP, restores 30 Durability) vs Master's Mend II (160CP, restores 60 Durability). Sure, you would always prefer to use MMII if you were in a vacuum, but with durability limits and a limited CP pool it's harder to get the full value from it. Quality increasing actions (Touches) actually tend to be the opposite case, just because durability consumption and success chances are complicating factors. Maybe it's confusing when it's written down like that but it's pretty intuitive when you do it for a while. In any case, you've got the right idea by not using macros right off the bat. It's better to learn what your options are during crafts. When I'm starting a new, non-trivial craft the first thing I do is try to see how efficiently I can complete the craft, without even worrying about quality. Then I can workshop different quality-increasing rotations while still knowing what I need to conserve to complete the craft. Try to always make sure the chance at completing a craft is guaranteed. Relying on 90% swings unaided for craft completion is garbage (ie make sure you get WVR's Careful Synthesis as a cross-class skill first and foremost). One of the most impressive parts of the crafting system is that there are very few dead abilities although there are CP/recipe difficulty break points when some abilities really come into their own (and conversely, when some abilities fall off in usefulness). If you don't want to blow up crafts or find that it's a hassle using the in-game crafting to learn, http://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net/#/simulator is a simulator that's robust and 99.999% accurate in telling you expected results of your rotations. edit: oh i guess all that information was too basic for you, welp 
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