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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Does a 2nd resurrection make her Double Jesus? partial daniel jackson
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The Nastier Nate posted:Shortly after republicans will win a supermajority and pass a law to make it legal to hunt 3 poors for sport per year (but you’ll have to get a permit) The Democrats will then wring their hands ever so much over conservatives that exceed their permit allowances
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I like how half of the responses are people hand-wringing over how Carter voted in the general in light of this extremely unsettling new information about the primary  and another quarter are people getting immediately mad because they assumed it meant he wrote in Bernie in the general for some reason says a lot about the Dem mindset (poo poo)
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Oct 22, 2017 16:32
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nopantsjack posted:the answer isnt despair its accept 2020 is doomed and make yourself as comfortable as possible for hollowing out the skull of the democratic party and filling it with socialism by 2024, after the dem centrists lose in 2020 you gotta take the initiative while they're still weak there is no way this lovely party survives losing to trump twice. ideally the DSA will stop pretending to be a PAC and transition to full blown party at the 2019 convention
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Oct 22, 2017 16:35
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Raskolnikov38 posted:there is no way this lovely party survives losing to trump twice. ideally the DSA will stop pretending to be a PAC and transition to full blown party at the 2019 convention I'm all ready now for them to do that now, but socialism hasn't infected the public conscious yet, maybe in the next 4 years. I'm betting 2020 will be crazy but 2018 will be the same old poo poo.
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Pollyanna posted:like i'm genuinely concerned that we're gonna get another trump term at this rate, the dems have severely hosed themselves lmao instead of learning anything from getting wrecked by Trump and also the downticket they decide the real solution is that they weren't centrist enough.
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Oct 22, 2017 17:01
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Raskolnikov38 posted:there is no way this lovely party survives losing to trump twice. ideally the DSA will stop pretending to be a PAC and transition to full blown party at the 2019 convention You're living in a fantasy. Dems could lose 3 in a row to a scarecrow and 40% of the country would still be behind them. Same with Republicans.
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lmao top post on r/politics has some idiot thinking trump attacking tom hanks could end his presidency as top comment #2
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Oct 22, 2017 17:10
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Give yourself a prize if you predicted that bad dems and their crooked special interest would purge all Bernie/Keith supporters from the DNC. Also despite all the fears over Trump Perez also has been raising laughable amounts of money for the DNC despite his best attempts to court big ticket donors.
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Oct 22, 2017 17:12
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i don't think they'll run clinton again, but perez et al are definitely stacking the deck in opposition of future popular challengers. it seems much more likely they'll be pushing for a joe biden than another hrc run; he's evil, but biden has a whole lot of unwarranted favorability on his side, and at-large superdelegate participation could easily influence the primary process without so much as the bat of an eye. it could just as easily be cory booker or some other suit if the advantage presents itself, because what matters is cutting off left-populism from the presidency. the technocrat's psychosis compels them to demonstrate their capacity for leadership at every opportunity. course they're all a bunch of fuckin morons too so it's all wild and wacky
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Oct 22, 2017 17:14
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Office Pig posted:i don't think they'll run clinton again, but perez et al are definitely stacking the deck in opposition of future popular challengers. it seems much more likely they'll be pushing for a joe biden than another hrc run; he's evil, but biden has a whole lot of unwarranted favorability on his side, and at-large superdelegate participation could easily influence the primary process without so much as the bat of an eye. it could just as easily be cory booker or some other suit if the advantage presents itself, because what matters is cutting off left-populism from the presidency. the technocrat's psychosis compels them to demonstrate their capacity for leadership at every opportunity. Probably will be Kamala Harris since she's a dream pick for their donor class.
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Oct 22, 2017 17:30
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etalian posted:Probably will be Kamala Harris since she's a dream pick for their donor class. I know that it's bad to be a single issue voter, but I think I've come to the decision that I won't vote for any candidate who is pro-slavery. I know, I know, purity tests are bad, but I just don't think we should support candidates who are on the record arguing that slavery is good.
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Guy Goodbody posted:I know that it's bad to be a single issue voter, but I think I've come to the decision that I won't vote for any candidate who is pro-slavery. I know, I know, purity tests are bad, but I just don't think we should support candidates who are on the record arguing that slavery is good. I remember reading that article on women convicts being paid $8 a day to fight wildfires in CA and all the bad dems saw this as a example of inspiring feminism in action. Also didn't seem to concerning for how women prisoners were given 3 weeks of training but for state employees they got 2 years in firefighter training before starting the job.
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Guy Goodbody posted:I know that it's bad to be a single issue voter, but I think I've come to the decision that I won't vote for any candidate who is pro-slavery. I know, I know, purity tests are bad, but I just don't think we should support candidates who are on the record arguing that slavery is good. but kamala is a double minority so shes automatically qualified to be president what more you want??!
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Oct 22, 2017 17:47
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etalian posted:I remember reading that article on women convicts being paid $8 a day to fight wildfires in CA and all the bad dems saw this as a example of inspiring feminism in action. https://twitter.com/historyinflicks/status/839732795706593281?lang=en i know more than a few people who were angry if you parroted this at all while mocking the dems back in march/april because we must be strong together or some poo poo
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Oct 22, 2017 17:48
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the NYT headline for this piece is "JIMMY CARTER LUSTS FOR A TRUMP POSTING"
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gradenko_2000 posted:I'm not a primitivist by any means. chinese communism similarly dramatically industrialized a backwards agrarian nation wrought by imperialist occupation and civil war to presume that Full Communism Now necessarily means significantly downgrading standard of living for the median citizen is contradicted by the evidence. also a common criticism of chinese and soviet communism is that they were merely a form of undemocratic state capitalism where the laborers still had no meaningful democratic say on economic matters
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Taintrunner posted:I went to a bar to quietly work on a project and at the opposite end someone is screaming about how single payer is all bullshit and we can’t just put the insurance companies out of business
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Oct 22, 2017 18:06
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Grondoth posted:how can people not get it after this long winning with a progressive and returning to the party of FDR means the corporate gravy train ends the fact that clinton lost with a 2:1 spend advantage against trump does not phase them the fact that ossoff lost with similar spending advantages also does not phase them the consultant and lobbyist class still gets hella paid either way and the democratic donors still get the policies they largely want with republicans in office
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Oct 22, 2017 18:06
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tower time posted:The agreement is that they will provide a total of 40 jobs at roughly $30ish an hour. Then the yearly math works out that even after the initial setup tax credits the state is paying them $400k a year per job. We'd literally be getting a better return by paying those people $100k a year to do nothing at all. a lot of these 'tax credit' handouts in other areas have similar absurd outcomes when you compute basic arithmetic. the capitalist economic system naturally encourages these absurd races to the bottom. the tax burden is hilariously getting warped and continuously shifting it to the lower quintiles.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:loooove tooooo looooose 
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I mean do you claim that millions of people starving to death or being brutally tortured has nothing to do with communism?
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Oct 22, 2017 18:16
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fleshweasel posted:I mean do you claim that millions of people starving to death or being brutally tortured has nothing to do with communism? also your question seems to presume as if such atrocities have not been committed under other economic systems
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Oct 22, 2017 18:19
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fleshweasel posted:I mean do you claim that millions of people starving to death or being brutally tortured has nothing to do with communism? Those are perks.
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being able to send republicans to re-education camps seems like a pretty good argument for communism in america imo
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comedyblissoption posted:please show me where i ever claimed this i didn’t see you claim it—that’s why I asked
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comedyblissoption posted:soviet communism brought a backwards agrarian nation that got wrecked by a civil war where they were invaded by 5 outside imperialist powers and then got wrecked by two world wars to a world superpower in a couple generations Thank you.
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Shear Modulus posted:being able to send republicans and bad dems to re-education camps seems like a pretty good argument for communism in america imo
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comedyblissoption posted:the NYT headline for this piece is "JIMMY CARTER LUSTS FOR A TRUMP POSTING" https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/922143569707786245 https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/922148969932902401
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The Democrats! https://www.theroot.com/white-democratic-va-candidate-for-governor-leaves-blac-1819655705
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Guy Goodbody posted:I know that it's bad to be a single issue voter, but I think I've come to the decision that I won't vote for any candidate who is pro-slavery. I know, I know, purity tests are bad, but I just don't think we should support candidates who are on the record arguing that slavery is good. ftr I still love the argument in response to this that is is completely and totally unfair to expect an AG to know what the attorneys under her employ are arguing in court in every dumb little case, with the suggestion being that arguing against a federal court order applied to the entire state of California is on the level of some DUI case in a little podunk California town.
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fleshweasel posted:i didn’t see you claim it—that’s why I asked i in particular am not supportive of a government or economic system that allocates the important economic decisions of society in the hands of a tiny minority instead of the laborers themselves. this criticism applies to both american capitalism and soviet communism.
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Oct 22, 2017 18:43
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:The Democrats!
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Shinjobi posted:We thought our enemy was the Scourge of the Underdark, the Abyssal Empress, Voidsoul Bloodtyrant Abuela. If only we knew then just how much farther it went. She Whose Turn It Was, and Will Be Again
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:The Democrats! apparently the fallout on this hasn't been all that bad. i could be mistaken, but from what i've heard it sort of died down fairly quick. it is, of course, bad, stupid, dumb and an embarrassment all around, because it's not like fairfax suddenly isn't the choice for lieutenant governor anymore, and it's not as if taking his image off of those flyers is going to do any favors for LIUNA, if they were the ones actually responsible.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:The Democrats! There's a lot of annoying poo poo about this, honestly. LIUNA for being the negative union stereotype incarnate over Fairfax's concerns about that pipeline, and the state party for just going "well then, gently caress the black folks" in response.
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Hodgepodge posted:She Whose Turn It Was, and Will Be Again Oooh, nice
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comedyblissoption posted:soviet communism brought a backwards agrarian nation that got wrecked by a civil war where they were invaded by 5 outside imperialist powers and then got wrecked by two world wars to a world superpower in a couple generations this is a really good post
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when even kleptocrats don't want to help you DNC members themselves have now been asked to give or raise $1,000 each, some said — a request people who've been around the committee for decades say they can't remember being made before. Part of the problem has been the lack of major draws for the contributors. For the past eight years, much of the party's donor strategy has been built around large events featuring Obama. But Obama so far has committed to just one DNC event since leaving office — a September event in Washington that brought in $2.5 million, a total that was less than officials had hoped for, according to people involved. Other high-profile party officials, like the dozens of potential presidential contenders, have not signed up to raise cash for the committee.
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