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Graceful Graveler posted:I made the mistake of starting route C right after finishing route B and ended up playing this game for five hours straight that day. I think everyone who begins Route C plays straight through at least up to a certain point. This whole sequence is so intense and non-stop that it's hard to walk away from.
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Interesting and sad that, despite being very obviously infected, and for that matter being a less advanced model with presumably weaker firewalls and defenses, the Commander manages what none of her subordinates do: she never attacks 2B and 9S. Even the Operators don't manage that and they're literally not built for combat. She just walks back into the control room to die.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 16:05 |
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I really love the effect of the repeated title, also the repeated SHMUP segment. Route A starts with the SHMUP drop, and in Route B you see it from 9S's point of view. In Route C it's just another drop from space SHMUP segment, it's definitely the third cycle, but poo poo is all wrong, it's not fun anymore it's scary. It's very disquieting. It's like you're hanging out with someone, and they seem kind of boring and predictable, but right about the time you're really tuning them out they say something creepy and hosed up, and there's a kind of visceral I WANT OUT OF THIS feeling. Up until now the game has kind of asked you to think about the endless cycle of thousands of years of war, but at this point it's trying to get you to feel it. Oh you thought this should could not continue did you.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 16:42 |
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Jetrauben posted:Interesting and sad that, despite being very obviously infected, and for that matter being a less advanced model with presumably weaker firewalls and defenses, the Commander manages what none of her subordinates do: she never attacks 2B and 9S. Even the Operators don't manage that and they're literally not built for combat. She just walks back into the control room to die. Lower clock speed.
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Screaming Idiot posted:Remember the robovulva that disgorged a naked Sephiroth who then gave birth to DSL Dante and we were all "oh wow this game is so weird" that was just the sith lord wandering by and plopping something into the remaining code while people were distracted anyway time to
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 17:29 |
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Sax Solo posted:I really love the effect of the repeated title, also the repeated SHMUP segment. Route A starts with the SHMUP drop, and in Route B you see it from 9S's point of view. In Route C it's just another drop from space SHMUP segment, it's definitely the third cycle, but poo poo is all wrong, it's not fun anymore it's scary. Personally, I think Routes A and B are really necessary to the game's punch. You can't be upset when likable people start unfairly dying without having been given time to like them.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 17:33 |
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I don't like the machine network's voice, it is creepy in a real bad way. Makes me miss Adam and his silly ties. I'll even take Eve in blackface again. (Dammit Yoko, just had to slip mention of a flower in there...but surely he's just messing with old fans of the series? R-right?) Didn't expect things to turn out that way with the Commander. At least she got a dignified death though, at this point it could quite possibly be the last one in the game. I saw what looked like other escape pods leaving the Bunker, but I guess they'll all be infected too. I guess there's still the Resistance? Maybe? Or maybe not...I thought the virus infected Yorha units specifically, but then if the Commander was supposedly an old model too I guess not. I'm wondering about A2 still. I've seen posts about this maybe being some kind of cyclic thing, whenever one side starts winning too hard. If A2 is old enough maybe she's been through all this before and was just like, are you loving kidding me, when they rebuilt and restarted it all. I can't remember exactly what it was she was accused of. Was it that she kill her own squad members? I feel there's pretty high odds they were infected, in that case.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 18:48 |
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Zoe posted:I can't remember exactly what it was she was accused of. Was it that she kill her own squad members? I feel there's pretty high odds they were infected, in that case. The only answer we got was "It's classified".
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 20:32 |
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Zoe posted:
A2 is YorHa and as such is older than 2B, but the Commander and resistance are older. (I forget the exact dates, but the mission that she and Anemone were on together happened within the last decade or so of a 10,000 year long war.) She also was initially wanted for desertion. She destroyed the androids that wanted to kill her so we're also in a bit of a feedback loop as well.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 20:36 |
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hey if anyone wants to own a copy of the first game, square enix is doing a reprint on their website and they are going for $9.99 which is a pretty good fuckin deal if you ask me https://store.na.square-enix.com/product/283132/nier-ps3
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Omobono posted:The only answer we got was "It's classified". Check updates 50 and 54, it was desertion. The classified reason android was someone else. I think it was the one that was accused of stealing supplies that weren't stolen.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 20:39 |
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Sax Solo posted:I really love the effect of the repeated title, also the repeated SHMUP segment. Route A starts with the SHMUP drop, and in Route B you see it from 9S's point of view. In Route C it's just another drop from space SHMUP segment, it's definitely the third cycle, but poo poo is all wrong, it's not fun anymore it's scary. It's also interesting to rewatch 2B's entrance after the SHMUP segment at the beginning of route A. She lands in a big group of machines but on her feet, sword in hand and ready to fight. But here? She eats poo poo like 9S (as Id puts it ) and her pod lackadaisically carries her sword to her.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 20:53 |
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Episode CV: Loss New Music: The Sound of the End (Instrumental Quiet) So all of YoRHa outside our protagonists are either dead or insane, The Bunker has been destroyed and 9S has been flung off to points unknown. Surely, this day cannot go any worse. Even if these machines are going to try their best to make it crummier. Before we advance anywhere (not that we have an objective at the moment) it’s best to clear this area of any machine lifeforms so we can take a minute to catch our breath and maybe save the game after a non-stop barrage of poo poo going down in Route C. Emphasis on saving the game. These machines are no trouble at all. They don’t have EMP bullshit or any fancy tricks. Just run of the mill killer trashcans. Obviously, hanging out fishing in the Flooded City isn’t going to get us anywhere. We should probably get out of here and make sure 9S hasn’t gotten his dumb rear end into any more trouble. You know how it is with that dingus. There’s just one tiny issue... Welp. I guess this day could get worse. <body sparks> Ungh... ugh... uhh... 2B is now infected with the Logic Virus. We now have a System Corruption percentage indicator on our HUD that is steadily rising. Additionally, 2B’s body will periodically spark which causes her to only be able to clutch her side and walk for a while. All other actions are disabled when this occurs. This includes all forms of attacking, dashing/evading and jumping. She can just limp run at a slow pace. That’s it! 2B will recover after about 15-20 seconds and return to normal functionality. But it’ll just randomly happen again until she can get sorted out. So it’s best NOT to engage any enemies while she’s in this state. They won’t give one poo poo about ganging up on 2B while she’s disabled if she goes into the wounded state in the middle of battle. As a result, this part of the game can be incredibly miserable to play! Another note: Saving is still possible. But unlike most every part of the game, a save here checkpoints at the beginning of this sequence. Specifically, it’ll play the cutscene of 2B bailing out of her flight unit and eating poo poo and start from there. Still, it’s an extremely good idea to save here in case things go wrong. If you’re wondering if you can get cute and circumvent 2B being disabled by riding a boar or moose, the answer is no. Her going into the damaged state will knock her off a mount. Moose aren’t that buddy-buddy with our androids that they’ll tolerate an android potentially exploding on their back. Oh and one final note. Remember that whole system where if you died you’d have to do a corpse run to recover your equipped plug-in chips? The one that was poorly thought out and bad? Welp. Don’t worry about that anymore! The conceit there was you were restoring from an earlier point stored on The Bunker. The Bunker just exploded. So that entire mechanic is gone for the rest of the game! Dead means dead now for our androids. Straight Game Over - Load Last Save here on out. Anyway, let’s head back towards the City Ruins to hopefully link up with 9S so he can do hacking magic to fix this mess. Malfunction detected in NFCS circuit. I have to keep it... from spreading to other androids... Pod, give me a location that’s low on android signals. Searching... Analysis: The area near the abandoned commercial facility meets the desired parameters. Alert: YoRHa unit 2B will sustain serious damage unless the virus is eliminated. You don’t say... Ngh... OK... The abandoned mall. That’s a bit of a walk when you’re as jacked as 2B is right now. Especially when just jumping more than once is a dodgy prospect. Speaking of poo poo that’s jacked, 2B’s viral corruption extends to the menus. They’re all a static and artifact filled mess now. It’s a nice touch. As 2B exerts herself, the viral infection will periodically jump up a significant chunk. Which is somewhat worrisome. Though if you’re wondering if that System Corruption meter is just for dramatic effect or if it’s actually pumping up for real... No, it’s very much real! There’s about a ten minute time limit total to make it to the designated area across the City Ruins. And if 2B fails to do that, well... You can probably guess what results. So we should probably get a move on... New Music: The Sound of the End (Static) Remove the contamination... and reset... Analysis: Virus is transforming and progressing its own algorithm with abnormal speed. Removal will be difficult. So normally when cutting through the City Ruins, especially when going to the northeastern section, passing through the central sink hole is the fastest and easiest way to make it across. Listen to me right now: DO NOT GO IN THAT loving HOLE! If you’re lucky, you’ll die in that hole. Most likely, you’ll have enough plug-in chips to prevent outright death and you’ll instead get stun-lock juggled around forever by a half dozen machines with no means of defending yourself or getting out or even loading a saved game because you cannot access the menu for a few seconds after taking damage. It will be incredibly frustrating and you’ll hate this part of the game. This is already the most miserable section of gameplay NieR: Automata has to offer. I’ve fallen in that hole. I’ve seen my wife and kid play this game and fall down the hole. I’ve seen a few streamers play this part and fall in that hole. It was a real bad time for everyone each time. Do NOT go in that loving hole! Instead, the best course of action is to just take the long way around going around the perimeter of the crater, heading for the road to the Abandoned Factory, then heading north along that direction towards Jackass’s camp and east back towards the tower and our destination. It’ll take way longer, but we’ve got more than enough time to make it and it’s magnitudes less frustrating. All the enemies in this route can easily be ignored and In the highlights video I was a ballsy idiot and jumped the route to the east over the gap the Parade Escort sidequest took. Which cuts the travel time in half. Guess what? I hosed that up first recording, fell in the hole and had to close the game to escape because seven machines played soccer with 2B’s corrupting body to the point I couldn’t do anything but watch. Malfunction detected in visual processing system. That sounds bad. 2B I know you’re having a really rough day. But cheer up. The Council of Humanity has a transmission for all its beloved androids. Today, I have wonderful......<crackle> The Council of Humanity has decided to increase the production of new...... <static> This will enable us to deal a powerful blow to......<crackle> enemies. The light of hope is near...... <static> closer than ever to it. We look forward to future...... <crackle> and know that you will be the ones to bring it to us. Glory to Mank......<ear piercing interference> <disconnects> Thanks guys. That really improved moral for the whole two YoRHa members that aren’t dead or insane. Assuming 9S isn’t dead or insane and 2B can sort out her situation in the next few minutes... That's the last broadcast we ever receive from the Council of Humanity. There's some poor android just stuck on the moon now not knowing what the hell happened to the rest of YoRHa. New Music: The Sound of the End (Corruption) (You should probably listen to this.) Malfunction detected in FFCS circuit. We’re almost there. Gotta get this fixed soon. The menus are basically unusable at this point. Infiltrating system-protected region. 2B is now down to only being able to slowly limp forward. Everything else is completely disabled and it ain’t coming back online unless we get her fixed. Thankfully, no machines are in this general area. Alert: Unusual heat generation in central nervous system. Internal combustion imminent. And then 2B’s head exploded... Music: ENDS Analysis: Abnormality detected in visual sensors. Alert: Deterioration found in black box. Alert: Damage to data backup system. Bunker’s gone... There’s... no point in backing up anyway. 9...S... My body is... Ugh... 2B is surprisingly intact for having her head just explode. YoRHa androids are built to last. Unfortunately, she’s now color blind and mostly deaf. All sound now sounds like it’s coming out of a blown out speaker with frayed wiring. But hey, we’re almost at our destination. Unfortunately, also at our destination is couple of virus infected YoRHa soldiers we failed to take out earlier. Guys, this is NOT the time to rumble. We’re kind of going through some poo poo here... VIDEO: HEY YOU SHOULD PROBABLY JUST WATCH THE REST OF THE CONTENT OF THIS UPDATE! 2B is in no shape to defend herself in her current state. Things look dire. That is until... Hey, look who decided to get involved in the plot again after showing up for all of five minutes in both Route A and B. Music: The Sound of the End (Instrumental Quiet) A... 2... Ugh... That’s right. A2 is here. She’s also our player character now since 2B is clearly not able to handle this situation. Our first order of business is... Naturally to ruin the moment of A2 swooping in to the rescue and immediately bail on 2B. I had to replay this entire sequence again from the start for both these bad endings. Real dick move putting one literally at the very end of it. I hope you enjoyed your goddamn stroll, A2. Now go do it right and save 2B. Back on track, A2 is a beast and one-shots all of these infected YoRHa jobbers. We won’t go over the finer points of her mechanics because everyone is dead within about ten seconds. 2B decides to cut away here mask. Having that corrupted HUD has to be murder on the eyes anyway. Assuming the thing is still even working. Also... Welp... <slams sword into ground> These are... my memories. Take care of everyone for me... Take care... of the future... A2... Well... that’s all happening... Meanwhile, let’s go check on 9S! Music: The Sound of the End (Quiet) Where the hell is 2B!? Scanning. Black box signal located. Put it on the map! Alert: Large-scale ground tremors detected. Underground soil structure is no longer stable. Cause is likely a high-magnitude earthquake. Proposal: Evacuate immediately. I’m not going anywhere! I mean, that’s not true at all. 9S absolutely has the ability to hop on the nearest moose and make a break for it in the other direction. Yeah, they couldn’t even come up with a good reason why the hell you’d do that one... Right. That’s enough destroying tension. Let’s get to 2B! Also, Pod 153 wasn’t kidding around about an earthquake. The entire area is starting to violently rumble. Cuz not enough has gone down in the past hour. Sure. Throw an earthquake on top of it! Open another inter-dimensional portal and drop a second cosmic horror on the place, why don’t you? 2B! Are you— Music: ENDS Hey, 9S! She finally said your dumb nickname you’d been pushing for so long... ...And immediately died. 9S understandably does not take 2B’s death well and has himself a brief cry. Meanwhile, A2 decides she liked the hairstyle 2B was sporting and gives herself a trim with 2B’s old sword. Grrrrraaaaahhh! <extremely pissed off howl of rage> AAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTWWWWWWOOOOOO!!! 9S goes into a blood rage and sprints across the bridge. Meanwhile, some poo poo is going down from the canyon below. Namely, giant white columns are erupting from below the surface. Guess we found the source of that earthquake. A2 is unimpressed with everything that’s going down. It’s not exactly like she has a reason to fear an angry kid she doesn’t even know rushing her. I’ll kill you! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! A2 cannot believe 9S immediately got that owned. However, she is immediately faced with other issues. Like the giant structures that are still erupting from the ground. Particularly, the one that explodes beneath her feet... It’s just an alien superstructure twice the size of the City Ruins. I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about. As soon as the tower is finished erupting from the ground, it fires off three objects out of the top of it. Again, probably nothing to get concerned about. This is fine... In any case, that concludes the first chapter and hour of NieR: Automata’s Route C. Have a late title card and maybe go lay down for a while. That was a LOT. Video: Episode 105 Highlight Reel (Go watch this, idiot.) Video: Episode 105 Bad Endings (I had to replay this section 3 times to get these.) A2 Render – She needed a haircut anyway. The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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FFFFFFFFFFFFUCK those particular endings. 2B wandering around very slowly, while unable to even defend herself, was a terrifyingly effective story beat the first time. Less so the second time. Third+ times can go die in a fire.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:10 |
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Drakengard!
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:11 |
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Yeah that sequence was really annoying to replay for those endings. For those wondering how scripted it is:As soon as you set foot on the bridge your corruption jumps to 90%
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:14 |
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The_Final_Stand posted:FFFFFFFFFFFFUCK those particular endings. 2B wandering around very slowly, while unable to even defend herself, was a terrifyingly effective story beat the first time. Less so the second time. Third+ times can go die in a fire. Better this than trying to 100% weapons in Drakengard 1
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:14 |
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I like A2's old hair better.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:22 |
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It took me embarrassingly long to realize that A2 isn't wearing some torn black clothes over her skin, but that those are the last bits of skin still hanging onto her black android body.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:23 |
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And so the prologue ends. I will not lie, I got misty eyed when I played this.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:27 |
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The Dark Id posted:So normally when cutting through the City Ruins, especially when going to the northeastern section, passing through the central sink hole is the fastest and easiest way to make it across. Listen to me right now: DO NOT GO IN THAT loving HOLE! To anyone playing along, LISTEN TO THIS, DEAR GOD does it suck to get stuck in the Alien Cave part of the sinkhole being unable to climb the ladder back up because SURPRISE, the interrupt-animation fucks up even the basic skill of jumping off the ladder up on the pipe! MMMMMMDRRRRAKENGAAAAARD!
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:28 |
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Elkyrie posted:To anyone playing along, LISTEN TO THIS, DEAR GOD does it suck to get stuck in the Alien Cave part of the sinkhole being unable to climb the ladder back up because SURPRISE, the interrupt-animation fucks up even the basic skill of jumping off the ladder up on the pipe! MMMMMMDRRRRAKENGAAAAARD! If you fall in that hole, just reload. Period. It's not worth it. I don't even care if you forgot to save at the chapter break. Reload.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:31 |
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Ratoslov posted:I like A2's old hair better. Same. There's probably symbolism or something involved, but I suspect that they did it partly because the long hair tends to behave poorly in terms of clipping.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:31 |
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Screaming Idiot posted:Remember the robovulva that disgorged a naked Sephiroth who then gave birth to DSL Dante and we were all "oh wow this game is so weird" I've been thinking the whole LP how odd it was that I forgot how weird those things were in context, but yeah this sequence does a good job of making everything before seem so small.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:33 |
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Bernardo Orel posted:It took me embarrassingly long to realize that A2 isn't wearing some torn black clothes over her skin, but that those are the last bits of skin still hanging onto her black android body. Nah I don't think it's as gruesome as that. She's just an earlier model that didn't have artificial skin all over her body.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:35 |
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Holy poo poo, I knew I should have been prepared for something like that but no, that was a shock. Can't wait to see where we go from here.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:38 |
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Without a doubt my favorite part of the game. I never saw it coming.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:39 |
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Holy poo poo.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:44 |
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Ack, that render really put some work into having A2's "toes" show through her "heels."
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:51 |
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Bernardo Orel posted:It took me embarrassingly long to realize that A2 isn't wearing some torn black clothes over her skin, but that those are the last bits of skin still hanging onto her black android body.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:51 |
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A2, Mulan, or Dagger/Garnet, who wore it better?
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:53 |
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I can't believe 2B is loving dead
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:54 |
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I went through the hole the first time I got to this section. Like, not across the bottom, but just along that inner edge with the tree roots and the ramps and small jumps to the part of the city that leads to the mall. It was just a pain in the rear end, thanks to how I couldn't attack, and my jump would be disabled from the virus for long gaps of time. I eventually made it out, thanks to liberal use of health recovery items, but every single time afterwards, I just ran the long way around and made it without too much issue.. Always take the long way around. Always. Even then, I just loved all of this so much. This entire intro for Route C is amazing, but this was probably the best part.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:57 |
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Getting punched into the main pit, then into the even deeper pit super sucks. lol at 9s getting owned yet again tho
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:57 |
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So I thought the "logic virus" would be some sort of metaphor, perhaps for finding out what this war is really all about (i.e. nothing.) But as it stands, the people in on that particular secret seem to have held up a little better against it, if anything. I have a guess as to how things are going to go from here and I hope it's wrong because if I predicted it than it clearly isn't Yoko Taro enough.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:59 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:Getting punched into the main pit, then into the even deeper pit super sucks. This the high point for 9S in Route C
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 21:59 |
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delivers
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 22:00 |
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Also, is Jackass okay? This is important.
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# ? Oct 23, 2017 22:03 |
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StandardVC10 posted:Also, is Jackass okay? This is important. Jackass is a woman that blows up things recreationally, tries to murder her friends, and sells probably illegal robot drugs. Jackass was never okay.
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exploded mummy posted:This the high point for 9S in Route C It's been straight downhill since then
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