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i started listening to sam harris podcast and i feel like calling myself centrist instead of left now. do i need an intervention
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Oct 23, 2017 21:07
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Rodatose posted:one of the rhetorical go-tos for a liberal is lazily reaching for gotchas like this. I think the thought process behind it is, if the person im arguing with says something that is classified as shameful, and i announce it to everyone, then everyone around me will see it and i'll win the argument by default by shaming the other person out of the room. (I think they do this to make up for the flimsiness of their ideology) I hate that virtue signaling is real Like the racist tree story it's not about solutions it's about silencing your opponent and pretending the problem doesn't exist.
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Oct 23, 2017 21:12
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Rodatose posted:one of the rhetorical go-tos for a liberal is lazily reaching for gotchas like this. I think the thought process behind it is, if the person im arguing with says something that is classified as shameful, and i announce it to everyone, then everyone around me will see it and i'll win the argument by default by shaming the other person out of the room. (I think they do this to make up for the flimsiness of their ideology)
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Oct 23, 2017 21:21
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Tiberius Christ posted:I hate that virtue signaling is real
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Oct 23, 2017 21:23
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Mercrom posted:i started listening to sam harris podcast and i feel like calling myself centrist instead of left now. do i need an intervention No, you're fine.
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Oct 23, 2017 22:03
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Mercrom posted:i started listening to sam harris podcast and i feel like calling myself centrist instead of left now. do i need an intervention Why?
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Oct 23, 2017 22:07
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I assume its because sam harris is trash and anybody who pays attention to him loses iq points
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Oct 23, 2017 22:23
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:This is what I could find on the topic. Oh it isnt.
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Oct 23, 2017 22:32
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Kilroy posted:The racist tree story outlines a pretty effective problem-solving technique for combating racism: do not tolerate racism. This guy gets it
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Oct 23, 2017 22:36
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Koalas March posted:This guy gets it I saw nothing in that post about economic anxiety. Clearly he didn't.
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Oct 23, 2017 22:37
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Mr Hootington posted:I saw nothing in that post about economic anxiety. Clearly he didn't. 
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Oct 23, 2017 22:43
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Helsing posted:Why? Calibanibal posted:I assume its because sam harris is trash and anybody who pays attention to him loses iq points hes obviously mildly autistic but all the poo poo he and people like him gets from the left is unwarranted and i dont want to take part in it
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Oct 23, 2017 23:06
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nah, sam "If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion" harris deserves every spoonful of scorn tossed his way and more. he's poo poo, an islamophobic warhawk and i would spit on him given the chance
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Oct 23, 2017 23:14
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Calibanibal posted:nah, sam "If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion" harris deserves every spoonful of scorn tossed his way and more. he's poo poo, an islamophobic warhawk and i would spit on him given the chance 
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Oct 23, 2017 23:17
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Mercrom posted:hes obviously mildly autistic but all the poo poo he and people like him gets from the left is unwarranted and i dont want to take part in it whom amongst us has not demanded preemptive mass murder of any given middle eastern nation, on the grounds that in the event an islamic regime gets the bomb the "dewey eyed fanatics" will inevitably spike the nuclear football while ululating savagely also what's a pakistan
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Oct 23, 2017 23:20
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sam "the only people who are treating the rise of Islam seriously are fascists" harris sam "the bell curve is real, strong, and my friend" harris sam "big science is keeping research into psychic phenomena down" harris very clearly someone being unfairly maligned by the left, imo
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Oct 23, 2017 23:22
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ive decided. im a centrist
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Oct 23, 2017 23:23
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRghkcEEGO8
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Oct 23, 2017 23:26
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congratulations see jeffersonclay to be sorted into your appropriate House of Centrism
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Oct 23, 2017 23:27
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Ze Pollack posted:congratulations There is only one House of Centrism, and it is some sort of mix between Ravenclaw and Slytherin.
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Oct 23, 2017 23:31
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Kilroy posted:The racist tree story outlines a pretty effective problem-solving technique for combating racism: do not tolerate racism. More specifically, do not tolerate racism even when the source of that racism is offering you something you want. The problem is the story has somehow been interpreted by many people as "if you ignore racists they'll eventually go away." That hasn't worked out so well. Falstaff fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Oct 23, 2017 |
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Oct 23, 2017 23:36
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Ytlaya posted:There is only one House of Centrism, and it is some sort of mix between Ravenclaw and Slytherin. nah, there's House Race Realist Uncomfortable With Poor People Sharing Their Prejudices, House As Long As The Markets Are Free, House More Women Guards, and the eternally popular House If It Doesn't Affect Me Who Gives A poo poo
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Oct 23, 2017 23:38
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Ytlaya posted:There is only one House of Centrism, and it is some sort of mix between Ravenclaw and Slytherin.
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Oct 24, 2017 00:09
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Ze Pollack posted:sam "the only people who are treating the rise of Islam seriously are fascists" harris Mercrom posted:ive decided. im a centrist Fishhook theory: confirmed.
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Oct 24, 2017 00:15
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Mercrom posted:ive decided. im a centrist I've been down this road. trust me, you want to turn left. The road down the middle ends up at the same place the road on the right, but it has a better view. I still do like think of myself as a centrist, but every time I hear someone else say they are a centrist they end up in milkshake duck territory trying to defend certain things. see Jefferson Clay's posts for example. Sam Harris is kinda like that as well. It isn't great company despite their rhetoric seeming to be an acceptable perspective upon first glance. There are good centrists, but thats like saying there are good cops. The cops sure as gently caress aint good for most people, and it turns out centrists may not be either.
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Oct 24, 2017 00:31
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Majorian posted:Really good interview btw. Say what you want about TYT (I think the main show and their pop-culture stuff is utter garbage, for instance), but they have done decent interviews and their investigative reporting arms do really good work. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Oct 24, 2017 00:40
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Kokoro Wish posted:Say what you want about TYT (I think the main show and their pop-culter stuff is utter garbage, for instance), but they have done decent interviews and their investigative reporting arms do really good work. what if I just can't stand jimmy dore?
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Oct 24, 2017 00:41
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He's good in their "Aggressive Progressive" segments, because he has other people to play off of well. I can take or leave his own show. Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGYOizfMpfM Hillary forgets that the news media in the UK are a little bit more apt to challenge their interviewee. Kokoro Wish fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Oct 24, 2017 00:47
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:what if I just can't stand jimmy dore? I'm about as lefty as can be, and I can't stand him either, so that's cool.
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Oct 24, 2017 01:11
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Kokoro Wish posted:He's good in their "Aggressive Progressive" segments, because he has other people to play off of well. I can take or leave his own show. Yes the people in "Welch" are more willing to question people in power lmao Who is this kid
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Oct 24, 2017 01:44
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I've been down this road. trust me, you want to turn left. The road down the middle ends up at the same place the road on the right, but it has a better view. yeah you are right expecting honest discourse in politics is naive. people say dumb poo poo about sam harris but he says dumb poo poo about chomsky
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Oct 24, 2017 01:46
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gowb posted:Yes the people in "Welch" are more willing to question people in power lmao Mike Figueredo, one of the larger channels and casts in the second (third?) wave of progressive/leftist news and opinion channels that became activated during and since the last general election. I think he recently rolled into the TYT network at some point, so he could get some advice/protection from YouTube's continuing "Adpocalypse", which isn't just effecting the revenues of Right Wing poo poo-heels.
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Oct 24, 2017 02:27
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The Muppets On PCP posted:some folks think having a trans woman play frank-n-furter could further the common misconception conflating transvestism with transgender identity that's often used by conservatives to demonize trans people The creator (and original riff-raff) was interviewed recently and asked about Germaine Greer and Barry Humphries, and he suprised a lot of people by agreeing with them. quote:“I think I agree with that. I agree with Germaine Greer and Barry Humphries. You can’t be a woman. You can be an idea of a woman.” The rocky theater experience is ritualized sexual assault of "virgins" and has been for as as long as I've known about it (20 or so years ago), and the callbacks make explicit the implied sexual violence of the film. There's really not a whole lot that's positive about it. It's one of those things that would be really awful if created now, but nostalgia lets us look back on it more kindly than it probably deserves. E: I completely hosed up by using a bad source that attributed quotes from three people to Richard O'Brien. He agreed with them but those weren't his words. Corrected and a better source applied. I'm really sorry. Harik fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Oct 24, 2017 |
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Oct 24, 2017 06:15
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The year is 1932. The lefts radical vagenda of manocide has won. Former President Barack Hussein Obama continues to rule through his shadow government. The only place where freedom still exists is Russia.
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Oct 24, 2017 16:01
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Falstaff posted:I'm about as lefty as can be, and I can't stand him either, so that's cool.  Dore's an unbelievable moron. Lending credence to dumbshit conspiracy theories like Seth Rich being killed by the campaign, or Clinton having Parkinson's, was bad enough. Then add to that his whole, "The moon will fall into Lake Michigan before Trump gets a judicial nominee through! " horseshit, and...well, you lose credibility.
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Oct 24, 2017 17:22
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Majorian posted:
I watched TYT pretty regularly leading up to the election, but Jimmy Dore going off the deep end really turned me off to the program. I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds him insufferable.
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Oct 24, 2017 17:25
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:I watched TYT pretty regularly leading up to the election, but Jimmy Dore going off the deep end really turned me off to the program. I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds him insufferable. Seriously. Listen to his "debate" with Sam Seder on Majority Report, if you haven't already (and can bear it).
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Oct 24, 2017 17:54
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You should absolutely get mad about our lovely politics and politicians, just don't get Jimmy Dore "my anger is melting holes in my brain" mad.
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Oct 24, 2017 20:57
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Dore makes sense sometimes, but he's so smarmy that I can't stand listening to him, and anyway it's pointless because his embrace of dumbshit conspiracy theories and his ignorance of how our government works (like the infamous "it is physically impossible for Trump to put someone on the Supreme Court" debate with Seder) mean that you often come away from his show less informed than you were before. Even when he's right he's not saying anything that a bunch of other people on the left aren't already saying so you're better off spending your time listening to one of those others. E: Good to see I'm agreeing with Heck Yes Loam on something, we can all come together VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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Oct 25, 2017 05:33
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I get that technocrats have colonized your brain to the point that the only government you recognize as valid is technocratic. But that says more about you than Dore.
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Oct 25, 2017 05:36
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