Cpt.Americant posted:

So he's the first president ever to say god is on our side then? No one else has used those words?

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And even if I went with the other version, I'd argue that "god told me to" is still more measured language than 9/10 statements Trump has made. Because unlike Trump, Bush went out of his way to assure Muslims we were not at war with you

Ornedan posted:

Would you like to substantiate this little smear of yours?

sheep-dodger posted:

Don't worry, Perez has you covered.

Shangri-Law School posted:

When I think about blowing up the coalition, I think about going on Fox News to attack your own party. I think about contributing to the platform before endorsing Jill Stein. I think about spreading lies because they make the Dems look bad. I think about kvetching for months about how you just don't know if you'll vote. These things happened.

Sandpuppy posted:

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I can't decide if I'm the framed jersey with a TV mounted directly over it, or the teacup handles on the beer mugs.

albany academy posted:

Did all of the people who get reshuffled contribute to these things? I mean I guess pissing upstream is as good a reason as any, but it seems odd considering the number and the types of people who replaced them, right?

DACK FAYDEN posted:

(foreignpolicy dot com, where I stole that specific quote from, thinks it's bullshit... but, well, let's just say it's recent enough to be partisan.)

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President Jacques Chirac wanted to know what the hell President Bush had been on about in their last conversation. Bush had then said that when he looked at the Middle East, he saw "Gog and Magog at work" and the biblical prophecies unfolding. But who the hell were Gog and Magog? Neither Chirac nor his office had any idea. But they knew Bush was an evangelical Christian, so they asked the French Federation of Protestants, who in turn asked Professor Römer.

Cat Mattress posted:

I think it's bullshit too, but for a different reason.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush

That's major stdh.txt right there. All it's missing is the mention that Professor Römer's name was Albert Einstein, and that the whole room clapped.

Anyways the forpo article is bullshit too because its point is essentially "man, if only the invasion of Iraq had been perceived as legitimate" instead of, you know, "man, if only it didn't happen".

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Mark 7:21-23
For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”

Romans 3:23
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Jerry Cotton posted:

Chirac's loving catholic.

mediadave posted:

That doesn't prove or disprove anything, Gog and Magog aren't a 'thing' in Catholiscism. That and the rapture, young earth creationism etc are pretty idiosyncratically American.

Jerry Cotton posted:

They're in the bible. He could've just checked his bible.

Zesty posted:

mediadave posted:

The bible doesn't say poo poo about who they are or what they mean.

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Mellow Seas posted:

I wish this dumbass food fight didn't exist, but since it does, we should really just indulge the "progressives" because giving them what they want prevents them from turning into whiny dicks, and it doesn't do any harm. The fact that they - the left - are legitimately better on policy is just a bonus.

I wonder, whar did the DNC members who voted for Perez gain that was worth alienating thin-skinned Bernie supporters who see persecution around every corner, and can't find the real threats to our country with a map and compass and Waze? I don't really understand what either side is bitching about, but I don't see "centrists" rending garments when somebody says "$15 minimum wage". "Centrists" are not going to sit out an election because they don't want single-payer and the candidate does.

Sandpuppy posted:

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http://time.com/4992101/hurricane-harvey-texas-dickinson-israel/

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Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

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The Russian Nuclear firm Rosatom bought *cough**cough*Canadian*cough**cough* mining company Uranium One in 2010. The deal gave Putin control over *cough**cough*20% of the U.S. Uranium supply.*cough**cough*

The Hill reported last week that the FBI knew that *cough**cough*Russian nuclear officials*cough**cough* were involved in racketeering schemes in the U.S. prior to the purchase. The *cough**cough*Russians*cough**cough* had also *cough**cough*directed*cough**cough* millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation and *cough**cough*paid*cough**cough* Bill Clinton hundreds of thousands in speaking fees.

Robert Mueller was FBI Director when the probe of possible Russian collusion on nukes began*cough**cough* in 2009*cough**cough* and James Comey was director when it ended in *cough**cough*2015.*cough**cough*

Meanwhile, Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of State Clinton both sat on *cough**cough*a*cough**cough* committee that approved the Uranium One deal in *cough**cough*2010.*cough**cough*

Mark Steyn’s reaction: “Fancy that! A racketeering scheme centered on the Clintons! Who’da thunk it?”

Unlike the current “Russia investigation”, where details of dawn raids on Paul Manafort are gaily leaked hither and yon, Mueller and Comey managed to keep the lid on this one for the six-plus years it was active. And happily it doesn’t seem to have obstructed either the Clintons’ or the Russians’ mutually beneficial relationship.

Manuel Calavera posted:

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Ornedan posted:

Would you like to substantiate this little smear of yours?

Mellow Seas posted:

I wish this dumbass food fight didn't exist, but since it does, we should really just indulge the "progressives" because giving them what they want prevents them from turning into whiny dicks, and it doesn't do any harm.

loquacius posted:

You'd be surprised; Bernie voters showed up in the GE at a higher proportion than Hillary voters did in the 2008 GE

Discendo Vox posted:

This coverage is pretty openly poo poo-stirring.

Shangri-Law School posted:

I like how the map-territory relation has slid so far that loyalty to Bernie Sanders IS progressivism.

Technowolf posted:

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Jurgan posted:

Yep. Bernie Sanders didn't invent left-wing economics. He had good ideas, but also plenty of flaws, and if people care about the ideas then they should find someone who'll be younger than 79 in 2020 to carry them forward.

Manuel Calavera posted: