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Tokyo Sex Whale posted:Die caster with one plant so not really a corporate/plant divide, but I probably divide my time about 80/20 between shop and office. Part of that's because I'm avoidant and hate paperwork though. I thought die casting was on the up and up, i see hpdc postings all the time. Lost a few 3rd rounders due to the fact im a dirty filthy idiot sand caster who presumably (incorrectly) is unable to learn another aspect of casting. The fact im a mechanical engineer thats slumming it in casting because i went to a non power 5 school is lost on them, i feel like they look at me as tainted. After the talk with the recruiter this week, im seriously considering switching industries before i become pigeonholed, or at least try getting in to investment casting or something else with sexy 3D printing. If i am older than you, i doubt its by that much, and although i hate the term im technically a millenial. Being jaded under the corporate yoke makes me seem older i think? Its a shame that i actually enjoy my work, just not whom i work for. If you were real clever you could probably work out who i am or at least work for based on my post history too, but dont doxx me brah. Noob question are PM's something i have to upgrade my account to get?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:You ever wonder where Steam Controllers come from? I love that some of the machines have Aperture logos Tnuctip posted:Noob question are PM's something i have to upgrade my account to get? Yes, you need platinum. Just buy it, like the initial reg it's a one time fee and it lets you turn off the
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Meanwhile, in SundaeHeaven.txt, I just got back from three days down in Monterey, paid for by my company, for a Also featured: Lots and lots of booze, a booked-out evening at the Monterey Aquarium, an all-night Halloween party and (eew) apparently some people's rooms had bedbugs. (I guess those people have reason to bitch about it.) No bedbugs for me, but my hotel featured nearby rocks where the seals were having what I can only assume was a loud, late-night orgy of epic proportions. Whoa is me, my terrible life blah blah. Though I did have to set up HR & vendor relations appointments today to deal with fallout from a contractor who came in to fix our equipment and then sexually harassed our female employees while he was at it. Because that's the first thing that comes to mind when someone thinks of how to best represent their employer, right? I told vendor relations that I'm demanding a copy of the contractor's termination notice from his employer or we'll terminate our contracts with his company and never work with them again. Hopefully vendor relations goes through with it; I have two angry engineers and a whole handful of maintenance technicians who had to deal with the guy's poo poo, and frankly, I want blood now.
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Oct 26, 2017 04:19
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There are talented welders making amazing loving welds, but they are working in highly paid positions in the aerospace and probably a bunch of other industries that require their level of skill and are willing to pay for it.
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Oct 26, 2017 05:43
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Sundae posted:Though I did have to set up HR & vendor relations appointments today to deal with fallout from a contractor who came in to fix our equipment and then sexually harassed our female employees while he was at it. Because that's the first thing that comes to mind when someone thinks of how to best represent their employer, right? I told vendor relations that I'm demanding a copy of the contractor's termination notice from his employer or we'll terminate our contracts with his company and never work with them again. Hopefully vendor relations goes through with it; I have two angry engineers and a whole handful of maintenance technicians who had to deal with the guy's poo poo, and frankly, I want blood now. More details please, this is the most aggresive I have seen you ever. Did he went all the way and touched or did he ask for a quicky on the copier?
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My guess is that the harasser will be banned from working for your company, but may or may not be terminated depending on how useful he would be at other jobs the contracting company has. They may also offer some ineffective remedy like making everybody take a pointless training course on sexual harassment.
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Oct 26, 2017 07:17
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Ah the old "somebody hosed up" notice of mandatory company wide training seminars.
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Oct 26, 2017 14:55
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Sure, but I really don't have much to say on the subject. I used to help run an AS/400 systems years ago at a small insurance companies oh so many years ago. It's was a weird paradigm shift. In a matter of speaking the system was still based on the idea of printers and punch cards and the UX really seemed to be a hack to keep allow people to use monitors and keyboards, but keep the software thinking it was still using printers and cards.
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Oct 26, 2017 15:52
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New thread title: Corporate America: Drunken Seal Orgies on the Beach
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Samizdata posted:I used to help run an AS/400 systems years ago at a small insurance companies oh so many years ago. It's was a weird paradigm shift. In a matter of speaking the system was still based on the idea of printers and punch cards and the UX really seemed to be a hack to keep allow people to use monitors and keyboards, but keep the software thinking it was still using printers and cards. I spent a lot of time back in the day hooking up SNA server to AS/400s so people could skin pretty interfaces on top. Yes, they are old school and clunky, but you can shove one down a flight of stairs and it's still gonna keep on doing its thing. They are also super easy to scale. The smallest one I've ever worked on was the size of a tower desktop and the largest took up several rows in a data center. They will run the same code in exactly the same way. Over and over again. And long before virtualization was the hot new thing, you could multi-tenant an AS/400 with LPARs and it just worked.
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That's the crazy thing about AS/400, everything about it screams "THIS IS AN OBSOLETE PIECE OF poo poo THAT'S GONNA BE OUT THE DOOR IN A WEEK" But nope, it's gonna be there long after you're dead.
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Keetron posted:More details please, this is the most aggresive I have seen you ever. Did he went all the way and touched or did he ask for a quicky on the copier? rear end in a top hat posted:"[Piece of equipment's valve tolerance] is looser than my whore of an ex-wife. Could you imagine sticking your dick in this thing? I can; it's just like my wife." I have like four pages of that stuff in examples provided to me by the impacted individuals. Tell my co-engineer to get a cock in her mouth and I'm going to put a fist in yours. She's literally developed a cure for a type of cancer; what's this dipshit done with his life? Not that she deserves that type of abuse even without cancer cures, but gently caress THAT.
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Oct 26, 2017 17:59
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uhhhh why did they keep walking him around? Like, unless he's literally on his way to performing life saving surgery, his rear end should have been out of the building well before there was a chance to get 4 pages of comments like that in. I'd have serious concerns about the judgement of the escort / everyone else who interacted with him.
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Oct 26, 2017 18:05
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 I guess maybe he was fixing something critical that prevented him being immediately bounced, but holy poo poo I am surprised that no one simply decked him for that.
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Oct 26, 2017 18:12
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Sundae posted:I have like four pages of that stuff in examples provided to me by the impacted individuals. Tell my co-engineer to get a cock in her mouth and I'm going to put a fist in yours. She's literally developed a cure for a type of cancer; what's this dipshit done with his life? Not that she deserves that type of abuse even without cancer cures, but gently caress THAT. Divorced huh, who wouldve guessed. In all seriousness though how has this person not been hit in the head with a pipe wrench? Sadly id guess hes been worse at other "less professional" companies.
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Oct 26, 2017 18:14
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Sundae posted:I have like four pages of that stuff in examples provided to me by the impacted individuals. Tell my co-engineer to get a cock in her mouth and I'm going to put a fist in yours. She's literally developed a cure for a type of cancer; what's this dipshit done with his life? Not that she deserves that type of abuse even without cancer cures, but gently caress THAT.  All those highly toxic compounds and none of them ended up in his coffee?
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quote:uhhhh why did they keep walking him around? Basically, nobody realized they could walk him out. The escort was a contractor, most of the other people were contractors themselves and none of them wanted to rock the boat so didn't even tell us for two days. The maintenance people said they were "used to that sort of poo poo" [WHAT THE gently caress] and didn't tell us until we approached them. My co-engineer took over and rotated all the others out of dealing with him, which is when she got the abuse herself. My co-engineer and I contacted our manager and manager's manager who were both on vacation and didn't get responses. Since they'd scheduled the guy to come in and he was performing a scheduled, SOP-driven maintenance activity on GMP equipment, we weren't sure if we had authority to walk the guy out. (If it doesn't get done, it's a documented discrepancy. Root cause: loving rear end in a top hat? QA involvement needed to do this? No idea.) My manager finally contacted me back the day after the rear end in a top hat left saying "what the gently caress is wrong with you, OF COURSE YOU COULD'VE WALKED HIM OUT." He was rightfully ticked off at me and my co-engineer for not calling security on him the moment we found out. So TL;DR on poor response: People were afraid to say anything, and then once we found out, I legitimately hosed up hard. My morning meeting with my staff today was dedicated to me apologizing to everyone.
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Oct 26, 2017 18:39
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Sundae posted:I have like four pages of that stuff in examples provided to me by the impacted individuals. Tell my co-engineer to get a cock in her mouth and I'm going to put a fist in yours. She's literally developed a cure for a type of cancer; what's this dipshit done with his life? Not that she deserves that type of abuse even without cancer cures, but gently caress THAT. Holy moley Maybe he was trying to get fired?
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Oct 26, 2017 18:41
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It’s better than that wtf sexual harassment bonanza, but every slide of this training video presentation has different audio levels and it’s super annoying.
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Oct 26, 2017 19:05
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Sundae posted:So TL;DR on poor response: People were afraid to say anything, and then once we found out, I legitimately hosed up hard. My morning meeting with my staff today was dedicated to me apologizing to everyone. There's always a next time. 
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Oct 26, 2017 19:16
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Sundae posted:So TL;DR on poor response: People were afraid to say anything, and then once we found out, I legitimately hosed up hard. My morning meeting with my staff today was dedicated to me apologizing to everyone. Oof, I guess I called you out pretty hard then. Well, live and learn. Anyone in a position of management over others is going to have moments like that over their career (though hopefully not with someone that bad, holy poo poo that comment to your coworker), and it's not like you'll make this one twice. I feel for the contractors, but there's definitely an issue there if people are more worried about rocking the boat than letting someone act like that. Sometimes when there's corporately mandated training because of one person loving up you think "man, what a waste, the rest of us don't need this", but in this case it might be warranted, and it should probably be part of contractor onboarding too.
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Jordan7hm posted:Oof, I guess I called you out pretty hard then. Well, live and learn. Anyone in a position of management over others is going to have moments like that over their career (though hopefully not with someone that bad, holy poo poo that comment to your coworker), and it's not like you'll make this one twice. Hey, I deserve to be called out hard on it. I'm taking my lumps on this one and it's well deserved. We're bringing in the contractors' official manager through their organization to talk with her and explain what happened, and we're going to ask her to relay that the boat could use a good rocking on this one in the future. I'm not putting any blame on the contractors, though; the guy should've been off site the moment I found out about it, late or not, and I hosed that up.
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To be fair to Sundae, because this happens at our place, training on what to do in those situation and what sort of authority you have beyond making a report is usually extremely poorly documented. You know for next time but I wouldn't beat yourself up about that too much.
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Max posted:To be fair to Sundae, because this happens at our place, training on what to do in those situation and what sort of authority you have beyond making a report is usually extremely poorly documented. You know for next time but I wouldn't beat yourself up about that too much. Time to write up a new SOP ! And if this ever happens again, we've got power tools and a van over here...
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Oct 26, 2017 19:56
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Man, that sucks. Hopefully your coworkers don’t see what you’re doing now as damage control.
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mllaneza posted:Time to write up a new SOP ! Yeah, I mean, it should absolutely be made clear what to do, but I find training often only goes as far as "report it."
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I'd be tempted to poo poo can that guy's entire company unless he was just hired a week ago, they couldn't have missed this.
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Oct 26, 2017 21:04
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If you have to choose between getting in trouble for acting too slowly, and getting in trouble for not acting at all, I know what I'd pick. To an extent, this might even be the best outcome, it sets a very high standard and makes it clear: it's unacceptable and must be treated as urgent, no delays. Maybe that'll make a difference if something like this happens again and someone is worried about making waves. Don't beat yourself up too badly, it's not like you covered it up and you got discovered a year and a half later during a lawsuit.
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Sundae posted:Hey, I deserve to be called out hard on it. I'm taking my lumps on this one and it's well deserved. We're bringing in the contractors' official manager through their organization to talk with her and explain what happened, and we're going to ask her to relay that the boat could use a good rocking on this one in the future. I'm not putting any blame on the contractors, though; the guy should've been off site the moment I found out about it, late or not, and I hosed that up. While you should have acted faster, you can compensate for your tardiness by the ferocity of your eventual response: (Walking him out within 1 hour) + (refusing to let him work for you again) = (Walking him out within 2 days) + (getting him fired, his company fired and their crops burnt to the ground)
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Is there some sort of marriage counselling for corporations? I suspect one of our supplier hate us on some institutional, fundamental level.
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On a happier note...  Another Thursday, another highly over-catered, awesome party.  Not pictured: Lamb chops, tons of booze, dessert table, miniature quiches, and other assorted random non-seafood items.
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Sundae posted:The maintenance people said they were "used to that sort of poo poo" [WHAT THE gently caress] and didn't tell us until we approached them. This is in dire need of RCA, given the other elements of what you described. Something else is off.
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Nothing like working for a company where having craft beer on site at offices is an advertised perk...only for your CEO to suddenly throw out a, "WE HAVE A NO ALCOHOL POLICY AND WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD ONE WHAT THE gently caress IS WRONG WITH YOU ALCOHOLIC MORONS?" message on internal social media.
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You know, youd think that being the head of corporate IT, a job where you touch communal keyboards often would make you want to wash your hands after using the bathroom. But apparently the answer is nope!
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Oct 27, 2017 00:17
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I swear some of the grunts I hear are people beating off in the bathrooms.
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Everyone at my company tells me how I'm always working and I'm like, dude, I barely do anything anymore. Most of my effort is into trying to get things so that I don't have to do repeated effort. I had a Big Victory earlier this week when we got some outdated functionality that broke things removed from store computers. The fix could be done remotely and took me like 4 clicks but good god I had to do it like every day because people couldn't handle just... NOT doing a thing.
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Shugojin posted:Most of my effort is into trying to get things so that I don't have to do repeated effort. Well look at Mr Six Sigma over here. Or: congratulations, you're officially qualified to be an Efficiency Expert in most Fortune 500 companies.
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Oct 27, 2017 00:30
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Nah I'm just a lazy prick who doesn't want to do the same thing very often
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Sundae posted:I have like four pages of that stuff in examples provided to me by the impacted individuals. Tell my co-engineer to get a cock in her mouth and I'm going to put a fist in yours. She's literally developed a cure for a type of cancer; what's this dipshit done with his life? Not that she deserves that type of abuse even without cancer cures, but gently caress THAT.  Please update the thread on this. My sanity requires that this creep gets his comeuppance.
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Shugojin posted:Nah I'm just a lazy prick who doesn't want to do the same thing very often That's the informal definition, yes.
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